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pregnant living with abusive cr*ckhead brother

154 replies

Alone123 · 29/07/2023 01:07

I’m 22 living with my parents and older brother, 25. Currently saving to move out but money is tight and I’m due to give birth in January. I drive, work full time and with a child on the way, my anxiety is getting worse. My brother doesn’t do any of those things.
He is an addict, has been deteriorating for years but only the past year he’s been on the hard stuff, smoking it. He has been kicked out and arrested, carried out by police multiple times but always managed to manipulate his way back in, most recently he came back in December looking awful, drugged up and malnourished. He played the perfect son for two weeks before he went back to his same shit.

He has drug induced seizures which affect the whole household as we are always on edge. He refuses to go with the paramedics or attend any kind of help (doctors etc.) he has a 6 year old
he pretends is his priority but has met him once. He makes his money by smashing up houses, collecting other peoples drug debts for them. Which makes me sick considering we’ve had this happen to our home before due to repercussions of his involvement in that pathetic lifestyle.

Just today he seizures, waking my 60 year old parents up in a complete panic at 7am and I had to enter a crack smoke filled room to pass the phone to my mum as I called 999 (pregnant!). Everyone knows he needs help, he does too, he just doesn’t want it. I know it’s selfish but I just have constant anxiety about the health of my baby and my parents who are on edge constantly.

When he was kicked out I got a job working from home, but of course my anxiety and stress worsened when he came back to live with us. He is loud selfish and demanding and can’t do anything for himself. On a day without drugs he’d bang on my office door during work to ‘be funny’ and demand to have breakfast made for him. He would talk about his criminal activity loudly while on the phone and pace around the hall just the other side of the door from where I am working. I lost my job.

He owes me money from when he took advantage and manipulated me to give him hundreds when I was drunk one weekend (before I was pregnant obviously) and still asks for money every day despite me giving him a hard NO every single time. It’s usually for weed, gambling etc.

He’s quite clearly brain damaged from all the seizures but the again he’s never really been a particularly nice person anyway. My parents seem to think he’s just buying his time as he’s also got warrants for his arrest but I hate the way he’s so rude to them. I can handle myself but they are push overs.

I had occupational therapy a couple years ago when he was really affecting my mental health and this was before the crack. I am finding it really hard to cope despite being a resilient person and so I am at the point where my blood is boiling when he opens his mouth and I really don’t want to lose it. None of this is good for my unborn child, who I fear for every single day.

Please help, and be brutal! X

OP posts:
Redlocks30 · 29/07/2023 08:55

You need to grow up, move out and stand on your own two feet. If you’re incapable of supporting yourself independently of your parents, then you shouldn’t be having a baby.

You asked posters for brutal advice-this is spot on. You have deliberately got yourself pregnant living in a totally unsuitable situation with your parents when you can’t financially support yourself. How will you work/look after your child when it’s born?

RoseBucket · 29/07/2023 08:55

You are both taking advantage of your parents, just in different ways.

Ladypenelopesdog · 29/07/2023 08:56

stayed on contraception until I felt mature enough to be a mother

Well it doesn't seem like you're mature enough now.

You want to produce a child and then expect every taxpayer to fund you, provide you with housing and help you raise it?
That's being irresponsible not mature.
And there is no guarantee that the father will step up financially, either.

Motnight · 29/07/2023 09:00

Op you are young and have made some shit decisions putting your wish to become a mother over the welfare of a baby.

I hope that things improve for you, and that your baby is born into a safe and loving environment.

Whattosay81 · 29/07/2023 09:01

Ive not read PPs. Your parents will always put your brother first. You ask why you should change your plans because of your brother, but your brother will never change. That is the basis on which you have to make choices.

It’s unhelpful of your parents to say it’ll all be fine but it’s pretty naive of you to think they have control of a drug addict.

I would not at 22 be choosing to have a child in the situation you’re in, the pregnancy was your choice, even if getting pregnant wasn’t then keeping the baby is.

You need to get out otherwise there are serious ramifications for your baby. Your parents have made their choice and it’s your brother.

HappyJoyousFree · 29/07/2023 09:10

Regardless of anyone's thoughts on if you should or shouldn't have got pregnant you are so you need to safeguard your baby as a priority. If he's using drugs in the home you will be exposed to this alongside your parents and unborn child.

You mention you work in 1st paragraph but then lost your job due to brothers actions further down. Is this a different job. Are you working? Forget about the mortgage saving this isn't a priority for you now - you need to secure safe accommodation for baby. Unfortunately having a baby means we have to sometimes change our goals/plans.

Speaking from experience your brother will not change while he is being enabled/supported by family. He needs to feel his rock bottom. Your parents need to kick him out. Stop providing him with food/shelter etc. I genuinely know that sounds awful and how difficult that might be for them but from personal experience when done it can be a changing point. If your parents have ill health etc I would consider an adult safeguarding referral for them. I would also expect s referral to SS. If police attend due to your brother and note you're pregnant they will submit a safeguarding and they need to. SS are absolutely there for support but the priority is the baby. If you continue to place your baby at risk and live in a home with an addict in active addiction things can, and should, escalate quickly.

NeverThatSerious · 29/07/2023 09:14

Newjobformoremoney · 29/07/2023 02:47

Hi OP
From a place of kindness, it a big ask for your parents to kick out their child with addiction.
Your priority shouldn’t be buying a house but secure a safe place for you and your child to live.
Everyone is responsible for their own choices. And life doesn’t always go according to plan. You need to change your plan and focus on securing the correct accommodation

I definitely agree with all of this. By choosing to have a child now, in your current circumstances, you’re effectively making a choice between buying a house in the near future and providing an immediate safe environment for your child. I know which I’d choose.

Bimblepops · 29/07/2023 09:19

If there are outstanding arrest warrants for your brother, why not call the local station and report his location to them?

ameanoldscene · 29/07/2023 09:22

Am I responding to a real situation..I'm not sure. You are only 22 and sound very immature. You are not in a position to save for a mortgage or pay rent. You need to speak to your midwife - your baby cannot stay in that house. Your parents are 60 - you talk about them like they are 80. You need to explain to them that you need to leave and ask for help. You say that you gave your brother £100's in the past - when you were 18-19? - not a lot adding up.

NerrSnerr · 29/07/2023 09:24

You have to accept that it isn't the time for a mortgage and you'll have to find a rental. That is to keep your baby safe. If it's just the two of you you'll be fine in a one bed for a few years.

Even though you want a mortgage, what you need is to sort a safe place to live for you baby.

NeverThatSerious · 29/07/2023 09:27

I have to say as well, it’s entirely unreasonable of you to expect your parents to turn their back on their son, yet house and look after you, their daughter.

wutheringkites · 29/07/2023 09:28

How you do you there are warrants your your brother's arrest? Have the police not been round to see if he's there? Or have you been hiding him?

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 29/07/2023 09:39

If he has warrants out for his arrest, call the police and tell them where he is. That's a way to get rid of him.

Personally I think you are being selfish with this baby. You need to think of them and not yourself and getting a mortgage. Move out to a studio flat or anywhere else or else you may find you lose your baby with social services.

SuperSange · 29/07/2023 09:44

So taking your brow out of the picture for a moment, if he didn't live there, we're you going to continue to live with your elderly parents, one of whom has mental health issues? Was that the plan, and your brother is pissing all over it?

You're both taking the piss, just in different ways. You got pregnant intentionally, intending to live with your parents. Who you have stated are elderly and would feel beholden to look after the child when you went to work? Is that it?

Shame on you.

Oliotya · 29/07/2023 09:47

You need to move out into whatever you can afford. You can't live there with a baby. I don't understand why you would deliberately conceive a baby you can't afford to house. You and your brother have both made poor choices, and it's not reasonable to expect your parents to choose between you.
I was 21 with my first so no judgment on your age, but this isn't your parents problem to solve.

nobodysdaughternow · 29/07/2023 09:48

Don't get absorbed in side issues op.

You are having a baby and if you want to keep her,m/him, you have to do the following:

  1. Accept Council accommodation. It will likely be temporary and not what you want but it is your only choice. You will not be able to afford rent on basic maternity pay and getting a mortgage in quite a few years away.
  1. Accept that once the baby is here, you can't support your parents. You will not have the time.
JFDIYOLO · 29/07/2023 09:52

Your unborn baby is already in danger. The stress he's causing you already could be harmful to baby and you.

And you don't know how he will react to a screaming demanding new baby, especially if he's as unstable as you indicate.

Your parents have shown they will do nothing to deal with this; they're captured by love, guilt, sadness, nostalgia, possibly fear. You and baby can't rely on them.

Social services will be quite right to be concerned about you having a baby in the same home as an abusive crackhead, and may remove the baby.

Is it possible to get housing for you from the council? To get yourself away from him and start the process of creating a stable home for your child? Any hope from the baby's dad?

This can't go on.

Bunny44 · 29/07/2023 09:57

Ugh so many vile, judgemental comments. Think most of you should stop talking down to OP like she is responsible for her brother's actions and needs to change her life plans due to his addiction. She didn't know this would happen when she got pregnant. Always so much misogynistic judgement on women in these situations. Few of you are offering genuinely helpful suggestions either so all you're doing is literally passing judgement on someone who is quite vulnerable and asking for advice.

I hope you all have fun in your perfect lives!

@Alone123 please do ignore them.

cestlavielife · 29/07/2023 09:58

You have savings so get out and rent a studio or one bed , either is fine for a baby for couple years

toomuchlaundry · 29/07/2023 10:05

The living conditions weren’t great when OP got pregnant @Bunny44 why shouldn’t people judge. OP purposely got pregnant, why would anyone choose to do that in those living conditions. She is 22, plenty of time to be a mum. Why didn’t she wait until able to finance moving out of the house.

Redlocks30 · 29/07/2023 10:06

She didn't know this would happen when she got pregnant.

She deliberately got pregnant when living with her brother who is a drug addict. He is behaving exactly as he always has done, so yes, she could have predicted this would happen.

Redlocks30 · 29/07/2023 10:07

I had occupational therapy a couple years ago when he was really affecting my mental health and this was before the crack.

Yet, you deliberately chose to bring a child into the house? The only person you are thinking of here is yourself, sadly.

Ladypenelopesdog · 29/07/2023 10:08

@Bunny44 She didn't know this would happen when she got pregnant.

Whaaat? What thread have you been reading?

Her brother didn't just suddenly become a druggie after she got pregnant !!

DinoRoar14 · 29/07/2023 10:12

Alone123 · 29/07/2023 01:40

@jolaylasofia

That has been a worry and I will get out one way or another. Honestly it wasn’t exactly planned but I always wanted to be a mother. I don’t see why I should avoid having a child due to my brothers choices. My parents reassured me things will be ok and that it will change before the baby arrives so I don’t have to worry. But so far nothing. The father is in a different area, we have a good friendship but I don’t want to be with him. He is going to support the child and he’s a good person. I expect nothing more from him at this point.

What about your choices?
Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Your an adult whose decided that your want for a child is more important then that child's right to a safe and stable life.

You judge him and yet you are as incapable and burdensome to your parents by being so reckless as to bring a child into this home.

Stomacharmeleon · 29/07/2023 10:38

You need to address this and get your priorities sorted or social services will step in. I am astounded you can't see what the issues are and what you need to do to resolve them.
It's not just a case of getting rid of your brother... and throwing him out won't be an end to it.
Who is looking after your child when you return to work?
Everything is chaotic. Ss don't like chaos.