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Baby abroad Spain - sister not willing to help

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Arena5 · 02/04/2023 19:24

Hi All

im posting here because I’m not brave enough and probably a bit too emotional fragile to withstand the wrath of AIBU right now šŸ˜‚. That said I would like to get some outside perspective on whether I am behind unreasonable.

My parents have a second holiday home in Spain and have suggested we could use it this summer after having our second baby. We’re really lucky that my partner has 16 weeks paternity leave and so with baby being due 19 May we’ll be off together until 12 September. The only thing is the dates we want to go (4-11) my sister has already asked for and is unwilling to swap with us.

The reason we are being so specific about dates is that we would really like to wait until baby had had at least their 8 and 12 week vaccinations (due mid July and mid August). Perhaps I’m being OTT on that point but I’d feel safer going abroad and on a plane with all that circulated air at least knowing they had that protection. We also are aware that with strikes the waiting time for getting a passport this summer is 10 weeks (and you first have to get a birth certificate which takes circa 2 weeks). So it’ll probably take until August to get one. So that leaves us with September and my partner doesn’t want to ask for another weeks annual leave just after taking 16 weeks because his job were quite funny about him taking the full 16 weeks (even though it’s one of the company perks).

So we’re stuck really with only being able to use 4-11 Sept which is when my sister has already asked to use it. So we’ve asked if she could swap and go a week later 12-19 but she doesn’t want to because her boyfriend has booked the leave off. It’s warm throughout September and no flight have been booked.

Now I understand we would be asking him to inconvinience himself by asking to swap his annual leave dates. But it feels like a fairly minor inconvenience and I also see it being a huge problem. He works in a large public sector team, he’d be asking to make the swap (by one week) 5 months in advance and its outside of peak holiday season.

By contrast if we can’t go we’ll prob book somewhere else with our 2 year old and our then 3 month old. It’ll obviously be more costly. Also as a family of four with two very young children it would be much less stressful to go to my parents as they have lots of baby equipment there already, we’re familiar with it and there’s on site shop there with formula and nappies. My parents are also there until 3 Sept so if my sister swaps weeks with us we’ll actually probably go a few days early to have some time with them and it would be so reassuring to know they’d be waiting at the airport to welcome us after we do our first flight with a newborn and two year old.

My sister and her partner by contrast are early 20s no children, both still live at home and spend most of them free time (understandably going out having fun). My partner and I on the other hand have had a really stressful year where both of us have been ill (he mental health and myself with a chronic illness which has flared up over pregnancy and we’ve been juggling full time stressful jobs alongside our very very active two year old.

Any other year it won’t matter when we go it’s just this year when we’re having a baby that’s made our dates so restricted. I can’t get past that it feels so mean for my sister to refuse to budge. And parents attitude is not our fight keep us out of it.

So can I ask am I being unreasonable?

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StopFeckingFaffing · 02/04/2023 19:29

YANBU to ask your sister if she is willing to swap dates

YABU to not accept no as an answer

adriftabroad · 02/04/2023 19:31

Yes .Also, I would never take a newborn somewhere so hot in August
Where in Spain?.

VivaVivaa · 02/04/2023 19:31

It’s a shame for you, but stripping all the added information away, I’m sorry but yes, I think you are being a bit unreasonable. They got their first and, while it would be nice for them to swap, they are under no obligation to just to suit your dates.

He works in a large public sector team, he’d be asking to make the swap (by one week) 5 months in advance and its outside of peak holiday season

Picking up on this, this would be far too little notice where I work for September, which is still a phenomenally popular month for A/L.

Bunnyhascovidnoteggs · 02/04/2023 19:33

Just because you have dc doesn't give you priority over the holiday home.

SeulementUneFois · 02/04/2023 19:34

adriftabroad · 02/04/2023 19:31

Yes .Also, I would never take a newborn somewhere so hot in August
Where in Spain?.

@adriftabroad ...you are aware Spaniards and other people from hot countries have babies ..

adriftabroad · 02/04/2023 19:35

Yes,I had one.40plus degree heat is not fun.

ADHDadvice · 02/04/2023 19:36

Sorry yes, YABU. Makes perfect sense for you to ask and if they'd agreed, great. But it would be a favour- you're not entitled to those specific dates because you have children

Have you explained why you need those dates specifically? Especially around the vaccinations etc?

twoundertwowho · 02/04/2023 19:36

I wouldn't worry about the 12 week vaccines and free your dates up a bit.

The likelihood of baby catching something related to those vaccines is vanishingly small.

Whooping cough is probably the most common (but still rare) baby will have antibodies from your dtap in pregnancy and the 8 week 6-in-1.

You are also traveling outside of the germy season!

Gladiaterf · 02/04/2023 19:37

Sorry OP, YABU.

The dates you'd like are already taken.

In my industry it'd be too late to change an annual leave booking for September. Indeed in some of our teams leave has to be booked 6 months in advance.

devildeepbluesea · 02/04/2023 19:38

Sorry. Having kids doesn’t trump everyone else’s plans.
Just books somewhere else. Hotels also have baby stuff you know.

ImprobablePuffin · 02/04/2023 19:39

Sorry but she asked first so if she doesn't want to swap then you have to accept that.

You don't get priority because you chose to have more children. I don't expect any special concessions just because I have kids.

MrsDoylesDoily · 02/04/2023 19:40

You've dismissed his asking to change his annual leave as an 'inconvenience', yet your DH doesn't want to inconvenience his work by asking for an extra week's annual leave?

Twoinapod · 02/04/2023 19:40

Not unreasonable to ask.

Absolutely unreasonable to not accept no for an answer.

She got there first, make peace with it.

Arena5 · 02/04/2023 19:40

@ADHDadvice i have explained why those dates specifically. And it’s true I can’t demand she move but I know 100% if it was the other way around I would definitely at the least see if I could help her out by swapping the annual leave dates. If I couldn’t then it’d be a case of saying sorry we got in there first. But I know I wouldn’t think twice about seeing if I could help out. So I think it’s that which has made me feel quite sad about it. But yes if it’s a no I do understand I will have to accept it and I won’t force it further

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SirChenjins · 02/04/2023 19:40

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. Kids don’t give you the right to holidays yada yada but in this case it would be nice if your sister moved her booking by a week - I can understand your frustration.

Coffeepot72 · 02/04/2023 19:40

Bunnyhascovidnoteggs · 02/04/2023 19:33

Just because you have dc doesn't give you priority over the holiday home.

This!

atthebottomofthehill · 02/04/2023 19:42

It would be kind of your sister to change her dates but she is under no obligation to. She's said no and so YABU to think you somehow have priority. Have you got a difficult relationship with her?

FlounderingFruitcake · 02/04/2023 19:42

YABVU. Your kids don’t trump your sister’s plans. Just go before the 12 week vaccines. Babies aren’t vaccinated for everything until they’re 12 months old anyway so logically it doesn’t make much sense.

NaturalStudy · 02/04/2023 19:42

Agree that YANBU to ask, but YABU not to accept no for an answer. Also agree that the chances of your baby catching something covered by the vaccines is very small. If you're that worried don't go, but don't make your sister change her plans.

LightDrizzle · 02/04/2023 19:42

Have you asked for medical advice about travel before vaccinations are complete? I’d have thought Spain would be fine. I think you can pay extra to fast track passport applications and given the money you would be saving on accommodation, I’d do that route. Can’t you go for a couple of weeks too? For more of a rest relative to the hassle of travel?

I wouldn’t expect your sister’s partner to try to rearrange his annual leave, September is still a very popular time for those pre and post children. You have a big window to go in reality and it seems a bit much to home in on exactly the week they are going.

Arena5 · 02/04/2023 19:43

No I really do agree it doesn’t give us priority and any other year it’s absolutely first come first serve basis! It’s just this year where we’re so restricted by timing (we can’t really control) that I was hoping my sister would be able to help me out

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Sairk · 02/04/2023 19:43

Any decent sister would try and swap with you! It's her niece or nephew involved in this scenario. Of course you should ask. If she really can't and you're breastfeeding I'd go earlier.

JeanieJo · 02/04/2023 19:43

I think she’s being a bit mean. It’s stressful organising travel with young kids; it doesn’t seem a massive thing to move by one week.

Kranke · 02/04/2023 19:43

Can’t you just delay or move your husband’s paternity leave? That sounds like the least hassle option, after all babies rarely come on time anyway. Also, it took 8 weeks for us to get a birth certificate as there was a huge backlog!!

atthebottomofthehill · 02/04/2023 19:43

FlounderingFruitcake · 02/04/2023 19:42

YABVU. Your kids don’t trump your sister’s plans. Just go before the 12 week vaccines. Babies aren’t vaccinated for everything until they’re 12 months old anyway so logically it doesn’t make much sense.

Yeah I'd just go the week before. You could probably persuade your doctor to give the vaccination a week early anyway

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