Whooping Cough Vaccine 2023

[Princess2022]

Hi ladies

Since the past few days I been thinking so much about whether to take the whooping cough vaccine or not.
I read so many things like women had stillbirths and felt less fetal movements in their pregnancy. This vaccine isn't tested on pregnant women either.
If I don't take it and my child suffers from Whooping cough I will regret and If I get the vaccine what if something goes wrong. I already suffered a miscarriage, I don't want to take any risk.
I'm going to go crazy thinking about what to do. Midwife asked me if I will be doing it I told her I will think about it.
I seen videos where Newborn are suffering from the cough and its really scary. But I don't want to lose my baby no matter what 🙁.
Can anyone tell me if they had reduced movements of baby after taking it or stillbirth?
I'm struggling to decide what to do.
Please be kind 🙏

@MissConductUS
I am anti covid injection yes. I will be researching the required vaccinations for my baby prior to accepting them.

My best friend was a man

I am absolutely disgusted that you're saying it's ok for vaccines to cause blood clots.

What happened to "have a jab, keep everyone safe" then you all realised it didn't stop covid.
The narrative absolutely stinks and so does your explanation and allowance of this.

@MissConductUS I'll also add, my best friend was assured completely it was safe for them to mix the AZ and Pfizer injections together.
Keep your numbers and explanations for someone who will listen, and at this point people who have steered clear of the injections will have zero time for your chat on statistics

You must be trolling following this comment. Have no time for statistics?

If you're genuinely real then bloody hell, don't let facts get in the way of anything. If you're going to make poor choices for yourself that's fine but do your kids/ future kids a favour and actually use the statistics and data when it comes to vaccinating them. Don't put them through unnecessary illness over the clean blood movement.

@NerrSnerr you lose your best friend post injection and come back to me on that comment.

My child will have the necessary vaccines, but I certainly will do my research. Your attitude stinks alongside the other bully tactic members who just seem to hold the statement "you're anti vax" or "you're putting your baby at risk"

I will await the studies on the covid vaccine as it is still in its trial stage. But the yellow card reports don't lie.

Hi girl,

I understand your concerns. I also worry about vaccines.

Whooping Cough was the only one I did take. I didn't take the flu vaccine or the COVID vaccine as my worry was still birth too. I had my whooping cough when I was 28 weeks I think I'm 39 weeks now and lovely strong movements from baby.

I really do understand your concerns, I had the same ones, you need to do what you feel is right but for me I read lots of stories on whooping cough and the deaths of babies If they caught it and that terrified me. I've had both covid and the flu during the pregnancy and they were both fine and I now have anti bodies so no concern there x

@VictoriaBlossom doing your research means looking at statistics, that's why I commenting on you telling the other poster not to post statistics. If people can't post factual information what is the point?

Very sorry for your loss- but this surely means that you need to have all the information, all the stats to reduce the risk of further deaths.

The chances of blood clots from covid jabs was rare. Did the inquest say it was caused by the jab or was it inconclusive?

@NerrSnerr his family are being compensated under the vaccine damage scheme. It was identified on the inquest. It's absolutely broken my heart losing him, and his whole family were all injected, i was the dark horse of the friendship group. But now they understand why I stayed away from it, and all regret taking it.

Yes, I'll look at other numbers regarding vaccines, actual vaccines. But not interested in numbers being quoted for the covid injections, that's what I'm saying. Until the official report comes through and it's been identified as a proven vaccine that works and actually helps people. Because all I see around me are people getting sicker and sicker, and death numbers getting younger.

There's quite a lag between establishing whether a death is vaccine induced, as each is thoroughly investigated. Not all deaths following vaccination are related to the vaccination. But all those reported under the Yellow Card scheme will be looked in to.

The most recent figures I've found by quick google show that 14 deaths have been substantiated as related to the vaccine (somewhere in the back of my mind is a higher figure - around 30, but I can't find that right now)

There have been over 210,00 deaths from the disease in the UK, and nearly 54 million people have had at least 1 covid vaccine.

Vaccination reduced the death rate from about 9% of cases to somewhere under 2% (and current strains, in a vaccinated population are at about 1%)

So yes, it's of course a tragedy when someone dies as a result of a vaccine (any vaccine). But the sum of human misery would be much higher had the vaccination programme not had such good uptake.

Furthermore, there is now a substantial body of evidence showing that covid (even if its only a mild case) showing that covid dysregulates the immune system for a protracted period after the initial infection. We do not know yet how long this can last, because as more time passes, the longer it can be shown to endure (a little while ago, it was considered to be up to at least 6 months, then up to 6-8 months, now showing at least 9 months for some)

It is the disease that is causing people to get sicker. Also the vascular effects of covid (remember it's not "just a cold") have led to a rise in cardiac and stroke events in younger people.

My youngest was born in 2013, so I was pregnant during g the 2012 outbreak.

You have no idea how scary it was. And then the "hope" of the leap in the dark vaccinating the mothets to pass on immunity to their newborns (both in utero and through breastfeeding).

It worked.

The reason you have the luxury of choice is because other people vaccinate. Anti vaxxers use the herd immunity of those who vaccinate.

Just incase anyone comes back to this.

I had the vaccine as I said below, my very healthy little boy was born on 23/04/23
Weighing a very healthy 9lb8oz

The vaccine was fine for me, no side effects just a heavy arm! X

@mummato1xo same. I had 2 covid vaccines, flu and whooping cough when pregnant and my 1 year old is currently tearing round my house like a tornado 😂

@mummato1xo and congrats on your little one ❤️

I had my whooping cough vaccine about 29 weeks (3 weeks ago). I was a bit nervous about it as read some concerning threads on netmums. However when I went for the vaccine the midwife said this vaccine has been around for over 20 years and is extremely proven and safe with lots of research behind it. She also said there are few things that have stuck with her in her career but the sound of a baby with whooping cough is one of them. At that point it was a no brainer for me. Very glad I’ve had it as you never know when a spike of cases might occur.

I did decline the covid booster during the pregnancy tho. Have had covid a few years ago and got vaccines back then. Plus I would prefer to wait until there is more evidence on the safety/effectiveness of the vaccine before getting any more.

Why don't the general public get it?

What is wrong with you?

The general public don’t get it, because they’re VACCINATED. It’s literally as simple as it sounds

@Derbee I've not been vaccinated for whooping cough

What is it they don't get?

Actually you would have been when you were a child if you've had your vaccinations.

The pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine is effective for about 10 years. That covers the most vulnerable ages (i.e. babies), but obviously newborns haven't got that protection yet, and their mother's would have worn off years before. Giving the mother the vaccine confers protection to the newborn until they're old enough to be vaccinated themselves.

As for why everyone doesn't get it? Well cost is a huge factor. Pertussis isn't especially dangerous to adults. So the benefits aren't especially worth it.

It used to be any time from 28 weeks, they’ve now moved it forwards to 16 weeks onwards.

I asked my midwife who said if you have it from 28 weeks it gives the baby more protection as it’s nearer to their due date. This is what I had planned to do. However my eldest came home from school with the most awful croupy sounding cough last week and I felt stupid that I’d delayed it, especially with whooping cough being rife at the moment. So panic booked mine for the next day - I was 22 weeks x

@Princess2022 ah op, I completely understand how divided you are. I asked this exact question a few weeks ago and got ripped apart about how selfish i am. I'd never heard of whooping cough and cases are practically non existent where i am. im 17 weeks nearly and I'm terrified about getting it . I've read it can cause fever which is linked to miscarriage. Obviously I want my baby not to get sick but I also worry about the risks as I don't want to lose my miracle baby. Its taken 18 years ttc and ivf for this little one and at my age this is my last shot as being a mum. It's so scary wanting to do the best by your baby but rhe anxiety of worrying about all these things can drive you insane

I had mine around week 26 I think. The reason why it's recommended in pregnancy is because there is a limit on how early babies could get it after birth and too many babies were getting whooping cough before they could get the vaccine and that was a much greater risk.

I had no issues with ds, don't think I remember having any side effects at all and ds was born perfectly healthy.

These things are always daunting op but it's a sign of how much you care and want your baby to be safe. Speak to your midwife for recommended dates for the vaccine and if you've got any more questions about it. It's really important you're getting info from solid sources - anyone can go online and write anything and present themselves as a 'credible' source but not give a full context or misrepresent stats or give misinformation which just makes people worry unnecessarily. At least you know your healthcare professionals will be getting their info from the likes of the lancet which we know to be a genuinely credible source of information.

In UK, 14 babies too young to be vaccinated died of whooping cough.

If you do not want to lose your miracle baby, get the jab.

Note that Tommy's (the miscarriage support charity that funds prevention research) completely recommends getting. No study or survey has ever found increased rates of pregnancy loss or birth anomalies, here or in other countries (some of which had introduced the jab years earlier than UK did)