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AIBU? Farmer OH who is never here! 12 wks pg and worried.

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TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:26

I was hoping for other people's experiences of how much their OH is around and whether I'm just being soft.

My OH is a farmer. We don't live on a farm, he has blocks of land scattered around where we live (some quite far away). He also has another agricultural job on top of the business. Income wise he earns a good amount but when you look at the hours he puts in, it's less than minimum wage. I have my own business too in an unrelated industry and work 40 hour weeks mainly from home - which perhaps adds to the loneliness. We have one dd already although she is from my previous relationship so not biologically his. I am pregnant again with second. From the beginning of our relationship I made it clear I couldn't be the typical farmer's wife (I'm a staunch veggie for a start). We decided to get together and see what happened as we connected in every other way - this was 4 years ago. I used to help out here and there but found we didn't work well together as he can be quite harsh and angry in his work and I was obviously inexperienced which irritated him. We have therefore kept our work pretty separate. I work a lot too and have my 4yo dd when I am not working. I am quite needy and have always found his long, anti-social hours difficult. It ebbs and flows throughout the year but lambing time is hard and I literally will not see him for around 4 weeks straight (new baby is due just as lambing ends nx year which I'm so worried about as he spends another month after lambing sorting them all, clipping ewes etc and is out all day inc weekends until late evening). I'd say there are 10 weeks of the year where I rarely see him at all and then many other weeks (maybe another 25 weeks?) he is out the house pretty much every day - inc weekends - from 7-8am until 9-10pm. The rest of the time it is quieter but still him working full time hrs. Holidays are limited - he takes about 2 weeks off a year split up (we do have hols but something always dies or goes wrong and I feel horribly guilty and he makes a point about it).

I feel very, very alone. Especially as my dd's dad was very involved and was at home a lot. OH told me that when the new baby is here, he will have to be out for 'at least two hours a day' even from the day it is born to water and feed things. He said I can have a week where he will try be home most of the time bar the 2 hrs. I've asked if he can employ someone while we parent together for a couple of weeks but he isn't keen. I am also worried he won't get back in time for the birth as my first was a very quick labour and some of his land is over 35 min away and he can be hard to contact when he is out and often cannot leave a job in the middle of it.

He is very loving and tries his best to help around the house. 'Tries' is probably the operative word though as I still do the majority of domestic tasks because he just isn't here enough to do it. He is totally loyal and I know he adores me. I cannot fault his effort. However, it can be a very lonely existence going weeks and weeks and weeks without a single day off together for family time. He really wanted a child and so I agreed as I was happy either way. I did make my expectations clear about him needing to be around more before ttc, but unfortunately that hasn't happened. I am now in a huge state of panic that I can't do this alone, and alone is what it feels like a lot of the time.

I also feel like our lives are geared around farming and everything has to be centred around that (his dreams) rather than compromising with my dreams and needs. My job allows for a huge flexibility which I sometimes feel he abuses.

AIBU? Any thoughts welcome. Not sure if this is pg hormones controlling the situation.

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MichelleScarn · 02/12/2022 18:30

Was this his life when you met? Has it been since? Yabu if you now expect him to change!

Boooooot · 02/12/2022 18:30

You have to prepare for a lonely existence. I have a friend who is a farmers wife. She has 4 children and she is very very lovely and depressed because he is never home. It’s the nature of the job.
My husband was a chef so I also never saw him when ours was a baby. Luckily my husband missed us too much so he changed careers but I spent the first 6 months very much alone and it’s hard. Do you have a support group around you? Friend and family? Would your husband be willing to change careers?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/12/2022 18:30

If your dd is 4yo and you got together 4 years ago, what was he like when your dd was young?

MotherOfPuffling · 02/12/2022 18:31

Not been in your situation, but I grew up on a farm and it really is all consuming, especially when you’ve got animals as they rely on you so much. There really is no good time for time off! Best thing is going to be to ensure you have support from other family members / friends who can stay with you when baby is born, as otherwise you will risk you and DH resenting each other as he won’t be able to spend the time with you that you need. Good luck, and best wishes for you all.

MichelleScarn · 02/12/2022 18:32

I also feel like our lives are geared around farming and everything has to be centred around that
sorry that's farming life! You can't flexi work it! * *

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:34

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/12/2022 18:30

If your dd is 4yo and you got together 4 years ago, what was he like when your dd was young?

We have actually been together 3 years and 8 months but I rounded up! He didn't really have much to do with her as he isn't a 'kid person'. But when he was around he did make an effort. Just I didn't expect him to 'parent' as such as dd's dad is still on the scene and is a very good father and does his fair share so I didn't feel she was missing out if that makes sense.

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TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:35

MichelleScarn · 02/12/2022 18:30

Was this his life when you met? Has it been since? Yabu if you now expect him to change!

We had way more time when we first met as he didn't have the other job. He has recently taken that on. However I do support him in that as farming can be unpredictable and this is a solid source of income as it's a teaching agriculture job. It's just it has changed our lives a lot and really squeezed our time.

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TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:37

MichelleScarn · 02/12/2022 18:32

I also feel like our lives are geared around farming and everything has to be centred around that
sorry that's farming life! You can't flexi work it! * *

No but I feel there are things he could do to ease the situation (take on an apprentice, ask for help from others, employ a contract shepherd for a couple of weeks) that would allow a degree more flexibility for the birth of his child.

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Molz10 · 02/12/2022 18:40

Ah this must be really tough for you but it does seem pretty unavoidable unless he leaves farming. I have no experience of farming but the few farmers I do know it’s a way of life for them not a job so I think it just comes with the territory.
I think he’d struggle to employ someone experienced to help out for a few weeks.
If I were you I’d try to build up another network around you of friends and family who you can rely on. Are you planning to join baby groups etc? Totally appreciate its not the same as having your partner around but it would help to have support from other places and might make you feel less alone.

Whatmarbles · 02/12/2022 18:43

YABU.
Animals need feeding, checking and tending to. It is not optional and isn't something that can wait until the next day.

Why get pregnant by him when you know he has responsibilities that will not change and he cannot alter and then try and change him?

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:46

Molz10 · 02/12/2022 18:40

Ah this must be really tough for you but it does seem pretty unavoidable unless he leaves farming. I have no experience of farming but the few farmers I do know it’s a way of life for them not a job so I think it just comes with the territory.
I think he’d struggle to employ someone experienced to help out for a few weeks.
If I were you I’d try to build up another network around you of friends and family who you can rely on. Are you planning to join baby groups etc? Totally appreciate its not the same as having your partner around but it would help to have support from other places and might make you feel less alone.

Contract shepherds are a 'thing' though - they travel around and do short term lambing stints for farmers as the long hours make it worth it. He also has quite significant flock numbers so, again, would be worth it for someone. It's more the issue he doesn't trust anyone to do it properly as he is meticulous and very 'set' on his lambing style. I did all the baby groups with my first and absolutely intend to again! I don't want him to leave farming - I just wish he didn't try and manage the work of four people himself. Thank you for your reply though, the idea of lovely baby groups again has made me smile!

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MollyOffHerTrolley · 02/12/2022 18:46

YABU, sorry! You knew what you were getting into.

Orangesare · 02/12/2022 18:56

I think it’s really difficult to leave the work to others to do.
It is easier if everything is on the one site. As you see more of them as they pop in and out and you can pop out to see new lambs etc.
Mine left me both times in labour because animals needed feeding (my mother did stay instead of him with my first). Animals do need looking after though, I have my own livestock as well.
it is just the way of life unless it’s a family farm and there are others to cover at times.

Longestnight · 02/12/2022 18:56

I don’t think you should be surprised! I know an elderly farmer’s wife and it has not been easy and it’s a hard life for all the sons and daughters-in-law too.

Zodiacsigns · 02/12/2022 18:58

He's not loving! How can you day that?! He blatantly doesn't have time for a relationship at all. He's never going to be there for the DC. He won't take time off and if he does then it's your fault if something goes wrong during that time. He's not going to be there to support you in any way whatsoever. You're not a partner. You're a second wage, housekeeper, nanny and someone to have sex with. Sorry 🥺

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:59

Orangesare · 02/12/2022 18:56

I think it’s really difficult to leave the work to others to do.
It is easier if everything is on the one site. As you see more of them as they pop in and out and you can pop out to see new lambs etc.
Mine left me both times in labour because animals needed feeding (my mother did stay instead of him with my first). Animals do need looking after though, I have my own livestock as well.
it is just the way of life unless it’s a family farm and there are others to cover at times.

Definitely. I think a lot of our issues would be solved if we had an actual farm base as he would be popping in and out more. The issue is, he's 25 miles away whenever he's with the animals and therefore once he's out, he's out all day and night sometimes and the distance also scares me in case we have an emergency at home etc.

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MolliciousIntent · 02/12/2022 18:59

I think you should be prepared to do the vast majority of the parenting alone from day 1. That's generally how it works for farmers' wives.

onlythreenow · 02/12/2022 19:02

I also feel like our lives are geared around farming and everything has to be centred around that

Sorry, but that's farming for you. It's quite obvious from some of these posts that many don't have a clue about life on a life - including you OP.

Hbh17 · 02/12/2022 19:04

You married a farmer, so you should know that the job has to come first. And yet you chose to have another baby, so presumably you realised that you would be doing the childcare on your own?

HannahPurna · 02/12/2022 19:05

DD is a farmers wife - this is how it is. I feel sorry for both of them as they miss out on so much, however they both knew this is how their life would be.

He no longer farms animals only crops but it isn’t any easier or less work, just different.
SiL does try to take time off randomly but constantly frets about what will need doing when he gets back to work

Teadrinkingmumofone · 02/12/2022 19:05

MichelleScarn · 02/12/2022 18:32

I also feel like our lives are geared around farming and everything has to be centred around that
sorry that's farming life! You can't flexi work it! * *

Exactly this. Its a way of life, not a job.

Long term I'd be thinking about how you're actually going to make your relationship work.

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 19:08

To all the critics of my post (genuinely thank you as it's good to be told you are being unreasonable if you are), I do feel it is necessary to point out our 'farming life' is not the standard live on a farm life - we have all the struggles of that on top of immense distance, nowhere to store things, no base etc etc. Of course I knew what I was getting into it and of course I know the lifestyle - but I'm not a shrinking violet and I ALWAYS made it clear to my OH that if he wanted to be with me, compromise would have to happen. He also made the decision to be with me, it's not just me that needs to bow down to the farming life. Despite several reservations from me (and me even attempting to end the relationship a year in due to this lifestyle clash), he also agreed to compromise with the 'townie life'. Why is it always the women that have to shut up and put up?

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Orangesare · 02/12/2022 19:09

It’s definitely worth looking towards living where the animals are.
The planning rules do allow for usually bungalows to be built on farms that make enough money (the planners actually have an amount). Usually it’s a static or lodge for 5 years then you can build.

In emergencies Dp is good at dropping everything and dashing back! You need a system so he knows when it’s an emergency, when you’d like him back asap, and when he just needs to come back sooner than he had planned
Farming isn’t the rural dream many think it is.

Zodiacsigns · 02/12/2022 19:10

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 18:37

No but I feel there are things he could do to ease the situation (take on an apprentice, ask for help from others, employ a contract shepherd for a couple of weeks) that would allow a degree more flexibility for the birth of his child.

Exactly. There's agency horse grooms, I'll bet there's agency farm hands too.

What are you going to do when you're ill and can't look after DC? Because he's not going to step in. What about when DC are ill and you have used up all your (un)paid leave? It's going to affect your career and you're the main earner. He's living in a very 1950's way and it's 2022 now.

If he's not earning enough to take proper holiday, earn at least min wage for hours worked and benefits gained (farmhouse without rent/mortgage maybe?), pay agency staff to cover if necessary, pull his weight at home, go on dates with his partner etc - then either he doesn't have a viable job or he should stay single if this is how he wants to live. It doesn't even sound like his wages could support a family even if he did find someone willing to be a traditional farmers wife.

May as well start getting your ducks in a row OP because this situation is going to get unbearable quickly.

TheBabbaCrunch · 02/12/2022 19:11

Teadrinkingmumofone · 02/12/2022 19:05

Exactly this. Its a way of life, not a job.

Long term I'd be thinking about how you're actually going to make your relationship work.

I have doubted our relationship many times in the past. However, we love each other deeply and that is what it always comes down to. As I have said elsewhere, he made the decision to be with a non-farmer despite me outlining the issues. Why isn't he required to compromise for his decision? I didn't pressgang him into a relationship and agree to everything... we both agreed that the lifestyle clash would take immense compromise. Yet I don't see him compromising much is my issue....

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