Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

@gretathebetter 7weeks! The home straight. Glad to hear you're feeling better

@Roxster so sorry, you didn't need to hear that right now! Must feel like a lifetime away but one day your boys will be playing together and this horrible time will be over. Until then you are growing a little person and you have to do what you can to look after yourself. It takes a village to raise a child- it's not all on you!!!

gretathebetter That is happy news. Cheering you on for those last seven weeks.
Rockster I so agree with Thaimoon, you mustn't torment y ourself about your LO feeling neglected. Your ex can play a part in giving him extra attentiion at this time.
From all I have seen on these threads, Lo's soon forget the period of comparative neglect. Children are very resiliant,because they have such flexible minds. Congratulations on baby boy.

I hope everyone is - sort of - holding up today.

For those who are on cyclizine, what’s your dosage?
I can’t remember from my first pregnancy and it’s not very common here in the US (they go straight to ondansetron) but it’s really been helping me a lot. My Dr suggested the lower dose of 12.5mg but I feel like it’s 25mg that I need?

6 weeks 4 days and still keeping the HG at bay (hope it lasts!) - can’t stress enough the importance of early medications, it’s such a difference to my previous pregnancy.

It’s 50mg three times a day here. It can make you feel awful when you start taking it so can understand starting on a lower dose and increasing it. I started by taking 2 tabs a day and then increased to 3. The 50mg tablets are scored in the U.K. so could break them. It has a long half life though so it’s not completely worn off when you take the next tablet, so it’s a bit unreliable to take according to symptoms I definitely improved from a strict regime of taking at defined times. Although, rest/ limiting movement is just as important for me.

@LucindaE
Your still here !! You were a knowledge of wealth for me in my last pregnancy, this chat kept me going!
I'm 6w5d this time, got extreme nausea but no vomiting yet. Got docs appt later this afternoon to discuss plan, they did prescribe me ondansetron last week as precautionary. Been looking up Her foundation and going to try b1 & a antihistamine maybe. I did take a few ondansetron the last few days as I couldn't function with the nausea. I am still eating very plain food, drinking has definitely majorly reduced over the last few days but my dehydrated

@Laura0589 thank you!! It’s good to know I can still take more if needed!

Lilmissca Welcome back.. Congratulations on pregnancy. Yes, Mother Hen is a fixture. I am so glad you are discussing pre-emptive meds with your doctor asap. Was Xonvea about during your last pregnancy? It's helped many on here.
Laura0589 Good advice. evuscha I am so glad that pre-emptive Cyclizine is helping.

Sorry - that's LilmissCa not Lilmissca.

@LucindaE I hadn't tried xonvea last time, will keep that in mind.
Today they gave me promethazine today, will see how sleepy it makes me as I really need to work these next few months, she did say she'll change it if needs be. Will try this first before ondansetron. Also got b complex vitamin, couldn't find b1 & b6 on their own

just tried putting frozen fruit in my water bottle and I can bloody drink it with no retching! Thought I would share in case it works for anyone else.

LilmissCa I should have reminded you about the invaluable anti acids, too - but very likley you remember all too well. Fingers crossed Promethazine helps at lot. I'm glad the doctor is being helpful.
Laura0589 That's a great idea! I wonder if it's the sucrose in fruit?

Hi ladies would it be OK to join? Im about 8/9weeks I think haven't been to the drs yet but app booked for Monday for referral to hospital, this will be my 5th baby, 4th csection (so slightly petrified) I suffer from endo aswell and the morning sickness is just through the roof at the minute, can't keep anything down except tiny amounts of apple juice, but then after a while of that I get heartburn and get more vommity (if that's a word😁) in all my other pregnancies I had morning sickness through to about 7months then it sort of weaned off for the last couple months it was bad, but not this bad feeling very poorly at the moment!🤢

Waves to everyone...

Hi everyone, I’m another new person and on my second HG pregnancy. I’m now 8 weeks, due on the 10th November. I’m feeling absolutely terrible and can’t eat anything at the moment. I’m on a combination of Prochorperazine, cyclazine and omperazole. It doesn’t seem to be helping too much yet but hopefully it will.
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for brushing teeth if the taste of toothpaste makes you sick?
thanks x

Had some really good days this week, even managed to go out for a meal. Thought I was getting better. Today is a different story, feel like I’ve regressed. Anyone else have this? I’m really hoping this isn’t back to stay.

Welcome to the new people, sorry you are suffering but this thread has been a great help and support to me so I hope it will be for you too.

@Roxster I have been having good and bad days too. I think it's harder somehow when the bad days come after a couple of good ones as you just started to think you might make progress. But I do think that the good have begun to outweigh the bad gradually so fingers crossed that will start for you too now

Welcome to Puddinandpie and Ambersham7. Puddinandpie Sorry I missed your post yesterday; I don't know how I did. Congratulations on your new pregnancy. Definitely ask for prep-emptive meds. as it's so bad this time. Did any meds help at all in your previous ones, though you suffered until late on? As you are such a veteran, you certainly are in a position to advise others,not to need advice from me,and don't need my normal spiel about kesostix or anti acids, or the juice of tinned fruit, ice lollies and flat coke.
Ambern7Welcome to another veteran. Sorry the meds aren't doing a lot. It is very hard to fight your corner when you're feeling terrible, but do try and get another combindation of meds. Did they suggest Xonvea? That has helped many on here. On toothpaste, I remember using a kids toothbrush and kids strawberry toothpaste. I've added your date.
Roxster and Thaimoon Congratulations on good days. It is so often a sign that there are more to come with an improvement, hopefully.

Due Dates

Melissa2023 4 April
Quinny2288 24 April
izzyroo92 27 May
heartbroken22 6 July
charlotte1256 16 July
PumpkinDart 17 July
mallowmoon93 22 Jul
Yoga817 7 August or 28 August TWINS!
Wrenegade 15 August
Roxster 31 August
Improbablecat 13 October
Bunda 19 October
Ambern7 10 November
evuscha 18 November

Puddinandpie I meant to add my sympathies about endo. and also, it struck me that my diffidence about advising such a veteran may have made me sound a little unsupportive, which wasn't at all that I meant.

@LucindaE noooo not at all 😊 to be quite honest I just wish I had known about this thread in my last pregnancies, I really sort of shut up and put up with them really, trying to plod along and not be sick, which was bloody hard as everyone on here knows! I don't have alot of extended family and my own mother is pretty useless so other women to ask about this kind of stuff was pretty much non existent, it was just me and dh muddling through! But at the moment we are trying all sorts and this thread even in the last couple of days, that I have known about it has been really helpful!

I know all you ladies probs already know the best drinks to keep hydrated and stay down, but the last couple of days I have found apple juice a little bit tough on my stomach and just seems to be working its way through me relatively quick TMI sorry! But dh went to tesco this morning for me to scout out other drinks that I may be able to tolerate and he came back with this https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/263879352?sc_cmp=ppcGHS+-+Grocery+-+NewMPX_SHP_All_OT_Smart+Shopping+All+Products_Online+Budget_1009392All+ProductsPRODUCT_GROUP263879352*&ds_rl=1116322&gclid=CjwKCAjwrJ-hBhB7EiwAuyBVXSx4G-dDiMbfyF5Nzc_0Qq_wz0ykeblgjbJaS3sK-L8Ry56i_ydKkRoCSt8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&preservedReferrer=www.google.com/ and it really has worked a treat and taste amazing, and also doesn't make me want to throw it up about 30 mins later and also I don't know its probs already been said but lollipops are amazing as they last for ages unlike boiled sweets that for me I end up crunching them and before you've realised there gone! I literally sat there for about an hour with my lollipop earlier and thoroughly enjoyed not being sick in that hour, unfortunately I was sick 20 mins later but for that snippet of time I felt a little normal, that was all courtesy of dh so well done to him!😁

Hi @Ambern7 I got my dentist to prescribe high fluoride toothpaste as I was worried about damage to my teeth from the vomiting. It's called Duraphat and although minty is much milder than my usual colgate and I'm finding it easier to brush with. Might be worth a try?

I saw my GP on Weds, she's signed me off for 4 more weeks. Prescribed metoclopramide for a few days, more cyclizine and promethazine as well as treating me for a UTI as I had some changes on my urine dipstick. Also got updated bloods and I'm low in iron and my thyroid isn't great so have more meds for those things too. I came out of the chemist with a shopping bag!

I'm finding the promethazine is helping most but is v sedative so I'm just taking one at night, at least it means I'm not up spewing through the night so things feel a little more manageable. I also bought vitamin D spray if anyone else is worried about getting vitamins in (no chance of me keeping the pregnacare horse pills down!) - it's just a spray in the mouth once a day and is quite nice and minty.

Hope you're all OK. 12 week scan for me on Monday, just hoping all looks OK

Puddinandpie It is a very isolating disease. I am glad you are finding the thread useful. Sorry your mother isn't helpful. Never worry about tmi on here. That was a god find by OH. Fancy ginger being useful - but I did know someone else on here who swore by ginger beer! Good tip about lollipops: I'd thought of ice lollies and boiled sweets,but not those.
Improbablecat 😆about shopping bag full of meds. Vitamins in spray form is a great idea.

Thanks for the advice on the toothpaste @LucindaE and @Improbablecat those are both options I hadn’t thought of trying.
I’m so pleased I found this thread, I didn’t get any support in my last pregnancy and doctors weren’t helpful. Luckily this time they have been much happier to prescribe medication.

Ambern7 I am so glad that doctors are being more helpful this time,and that this thread is helpful to you.