TTC GRADUATES! Who's baby will we be welcoming first? Mrs? Seaside? Iampg? Beansprout?

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Morning all

Dex did another stupendous sleep... had to wake him up to feed him and take DC to school. Fingers crossed this is a pattern he is going to stick to.

Fettle- hope Toby is ok with the jabs... Dex has got his 2nd lot next week. What is the third injection for? Did they do the polio one in his mouth yet? Dex only had 2 jabs first time around. That Messiah was a bit gruesome!

mrs- any action overnight?

Seaside and Iampg- a lot of the lovely ladies on here were early- Bodders you were 38 wks, i think??

Sorry- so excited about the pending births that I cant remember what I was going to say to anyone else!

evening all,

I am so jealous of you all having breaks from af following birth. After my dd, despite non-stop breast feeding, my af came back just 6 weeks after giving birth, and that was with 2 weeks of heavy lochia and 2 weeks of spotting, so I got about 2 weeks of "normal" then wham-bam af arrived. I almost went to the doc's about it as I thought it was further lochia . Breastfeeding does not seem to stop af in my family, my mum, my sister and I all managed to get pregnant while breastfeeding!

Bodkin - ah so cute having a daughter going to dance classes. I was beginning to think that my little girl was a born tom-boy, but just in the last couple of weeks she is playing dolly's and wanting to dance around all the time. Just as I was feeling really pleased about this earlier today, she then ten minutes later was wrestling her older brother to the ground for the fun of it. She really needs some feminine influence in her life I think, as so far she is picking up all her older brothers play activities.

fettle - hope you enjoyed your night out.

city - good to hear you are now in the blooming stage of pregnancy, enjoy every minute of it.

I am really enjoying being with my ds and dd again, it is much easier now they are bigger with morning and evening routines. I am glad that they are able to sort themselves out in the mornings, it should make the arrival of the baby a bit easier, I don't think I could cope with getting both of them dressed, baby dressed and myself too. Having them sort themselves out is much easier.

I am starting to get more mentally prepared for this baby now, I even packed a bag for if I need to go to hospital, if the homebirth doesnot work out. I am not sure how I will know that labour has started fully, I know I will know but with still getting regular contractions once a week, and having a show this week, I am wondering whether I will be leaving it a bit late to get to a hospital anyway! I live an hour from the hospital. At least having a homebirth my midwife only lives 15 mins from here.

Sorry I am doing alot of waffling here, I am not sure if it will even make sence! Better go and start getting children ready for bed.

hiya

rainbow- didnt remember you were going for a home birth- were your others at home? Really hope it works out for you- I am a total HB convert since having Dex at home .

Fettle- how was the night out?

Firsty- sorry to hear you are feeling a bit low with work ... I know what you mean about evenings- always seem to be the worst part of the day with LOs. Is there any way you could have a day off in the week? Is your work flexible at all? Perhaps you could join a baby swim class or something at the weekend to have special time with Ty.

bodders- Well done Nelly on the ballet. My DD started ballet at 2.5yrs and she was the same... went straight in, not shy, just joined in. I was amazed... hope Nelly continues to enjoy it.

Chooster- DD was 5 in december .

Greedy- so a 5 letter 'J' name... Julia? Julie?

Dex has started really proper laughing now- like full on belly rumblers which is very infectious- and combined with the raspberry blowing- very funny . I think he is going to be a little comedian cos he loves making DS1 and DD laugh .

Hello all

Shattered, exhausted fettle here![extremely tired emoticon!!!!!]

Although last night was better than I imagined - Toby woke at 9.30pm for a very quick cuddle, then woke just as I got home at 11.30, but took about an hour to settle and then woke again at 4am, and again at 6.30, so better than previous nights - see how tonight goes!

Thanks Rainbowy for making me feel a bit better about AF arriving - I thought I was a bit of an oddity, so unless you and your whole female family are too, I'm ok. Have to say though, I'm having awful mood swings, mainly downwards today - spend most of it in tears. Hope tomorrow is better as DH is away for the night at a party. Poor DD was just going to sleep when she called for me in tears, saying that it was Saturday tomorrow and daddy couldn't go away as he didn't go to work on a Saturday! - how do you explain to a daddy's girl, who's daddy is away very often due to work, is going away again, but for a party!! But i'm sure we'll have fun - as long as I'm not too exhausted, we'll have some real mummy and daughter time!

Anyway.... Rainbowy - hope you get the homebirth you want - good on your independent DC!!!

Bodders (I've replied!) - good old DD1 joining in - DD is so keen to start ballet in September as the school offer it as an afterschool club - just hope she takes to it. I'm thinking she's more of a sporting gym type bird, rather than graceful swan, as doesn't have much rhythmacy - but she's only young I suppose and she's definitely keen!!!

Firsty - sweetie - it is so hard working and being a mummy, but you'll be doing your best and it will get easier. If there is any chance at all you can move to part=time I would strongly recommend you trying that. If not, don't worry you won't be harming Ty in the slightist, it is just you emotionally and you'll heal - he'll be absolutely fine and won't remember these few months when he was just tired when he saw his mummy. When he gets older, the special, quality time gets better, I promise!! (remember I worked full-time from when DD was 9 months until my mat leave started last September!).

Honey - I love it when babies giggle! DD never really did, but Toby just needs to have his hands held and he chuckles so infectiously!! So so sweet! and so lovely that he makes your other DC laugh too!

Right I'll have crossed with you all as I started writing this before cooking and eating supper! But time for bed now, I think!

Have a great weekend all - take care
xxx

Morning!!!!!!

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I HATE AF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There feel better now!

(is it always really heavy the first time after birth? - I can't remember - or is this what it's going to be like forever now? - Maybe I should just get pregnant again!!!)

xxx

wow you girls have been chatty!

fettle - glad your night out was fun! i went out with the mums from school last week too. i never realised there would be such a big social scene attached to the kids going to school! i think i like it!

rainbowdays - my older two are very independant too. i think its vital that they are if you are having another one. i do feel like mine might have had to grow up a bit quicker than other 3 and 4 yr olds, but i am so proud of them and they really do make my life easier by being so grown up! i was talking to some of the mums at school the other day about their 4 1/2 yr olds and they all said that they have to get them dressed in the mornings. i just leave mine to it and they get on with it.........................ok sometimes it takes longer cos we have knickers on backtofront and shirts on inside out, but normally they are fine!
i had forgotten you were having a homebirth too. hope it goes smoothly for you. sure it will after hearing bodders and honeys stories.

honey - YES! my name is julie, boring old julie! but i am not telling you again so dont forget before the 11th!!! i am nervous about meeting you already!!!! you do realise marcy will try to EAT dex dont you? she eats EVERYTHING!!! glad your hairy front bottom is commented on too!!!

chooster - who's baby is going to be first to walk then hey? shame dh was a knob last night! my dh annoyed me too on thursday!!! i was working till 7.30 so he had to get the kids from the childminders and then bath them and put htem to bed. first he was 15 mins late to pick them up which really bugged me cos its the only pick up/ drop off responsbility he has all week. then he decided it was too tough to bath all 3 of them so he only bathed marcy. that bugged me too cos i always have to bath all 3 of them. petty i know, but i am easily bugged!!!!

bodders - have you gone and got secretly married? you put 'dh' in your last post and i am sure he has always been a 'dp' before!!!

firsty - enjoy your time off at easter. i am sure you really make the most of the time you get to spend with ty because its not as much as you like. so the time you do have is real quality time.

gotta go..........im at work, but i only had a couple of patients so im off home now to see how much mess dh and the kids have made in the house!

got my hefalump weighed again yesterday.........only 20lb 2oz!!!!

anyone know how to keep tadpoles by the way. we had some but most of them have died and the kids are a bit upset!

crossed with you fettle !!!!

yep! af sucks! but just think you could have one of your super long cycles again and not get another one for 80 days!!

Morning

Just saying that Millie is 3/5 engaged now, at 35 weeks....MW doesn't think i will go for too much longer . im 36 weeks now and keep weeing all the time

Oh Scorpio - how exciting!!!! Hope you don't go to 42 weeks now you've been told it will be soon!

Chooster - realised during my 458th waking/feeding time last night (about 4am!) that I'd forgotten you in my post last night - sorry! DH's are a particularly bizarre breed aren't they? I particularly hate it when they hang up mid-conversation. I feel it can't be that satisfactory for them when on their mobiles as they can't slam the phone down, they have to carefully press a small button!!! Real frustration release that must be!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope he's all better now!

Mine is still planning on going this afternoon, even though I'm obviously shattered and emotional - hey ho - hope he enjoys it!

Greedy - maybe DH thinks you do grow extra arms at bathtime! Have to say you must have an enormous bath, as I can barely fit my two in together (and it's a pretty long bath!) - although Toby is still lying down and DD does have 6 mile long legs all scrunched up around her when she's in the bath with him - he has to get out for her to wash her hair as she can't lie down (she's almost getting too long to lie down completely in the bath! - my little baby girl is getting so grown-up
How is work going? Enjoying it?

PMSL thinking of you and Honey meeting with your matching hairy front bottoms!!! Do you think we tell each other too much personal stuff on here to meet up?!

Right sleeping baby on my lap at last, so best try and get on with something now!
BTW any breast-feeders notice a difference in feeding during AF before? My Mum told me that my sister completely refused to feed when she got her AF back and she had to move her to bottles and Toby is definitely not as keen as before (except at night!) - has to get really hungry during the day before he'll feed - might ask in the breast-feeding topic later!

xxx

Great to have another new baby here soon Scorpio!!!!! Can't wait to hear more! Your others were early too weren't they?

Fettle - Theo is the same, just wont feed well during the day but at night he's fine. myabe it is the teeth thing???? I've not got AF so it can't be that for me. Sorry you've got yours in full force...DH's can be a pain sometimes can't they - hope your DC are good for you today - is DH away over-night? What happened with the sailing trip too???

Hey Greedy - we had tadpoles as well but they kept dying or being eaten by birds I think. DS wasn't that pleased either. Hammy still doing well Honey???

Sorry work is gettign you down Firsty - like fettle I worked full time from when Max was 7 months old and it can take its toll but he and I are still so well bonded! Too well bonded as far as my DH is concerned as he can't do anything right sometimes but I'm Max's hero mum!!! . Honestly, it hasn't affected my relationship with him at all and he is a happy well adjusted wee boy. Part time would be great as a compromise but I guess you've already thought all that through. Enjoy your Easter break!

Right I'd better go as need to book a restaurant for tonight. We are going out with friends and I'd left it too late to book the place we all wanted to go to so its full . Need to think of somewhere else .

Also we had friends round this morning who are due their first baby in July and theyve picked up all my old baby equipment (moses basket / swing etc) feels kind of wierd that its all gone now but at least its going to be good home .

Have a good weekend ladies! x

Right better be off

evening

Greedy- I wont forget your name, promise ... bit paranoid about meeting now as we will just be wondering exactly HOW hairy each other's front bottoms are . OK enough of that... Marcy definitely sounds a bit of a monster (in the nicest possible sense)... I wonder whether she will seem very much bigger than Dex...
I wouldnt even bother suggesting DP bathed all DC... he is of course totally capable- but just pretends he can't do it... Totally agree with getting kids independant as soon as practical. My DS1 is great in the mornings- does his own breakie- and DDs if she doesnt request anything too complicated (she is into having weird breakfast combos...). DD has dressed herself and chosen her own clothes from about age 3- often resulting in rather bizarre outfits... Thank goodness for school uniforms.

Scorpio- I hope you dont end up going to 42wks!

Chooster- grr at DH. Hope you find somewhere nice for supper. Hammy still here!

DP's grandad's 91st bday tommorrow and I have had a totally useless day of trying to find him a pressie... been in loads of shops and bought bugger all... any ideas?? Still got tommorrow morning to get something...

hi ladies

all is well here except i have a stinking cold and sore throat i am just praying oscar doesnt get it...

fettle - the nct reunion was a bit of a disaster i was the only one with a newborn that showed, still got chance to gossip with the experienced homebirthers and newbies but a bit dissapointing so il just have to catch up with them on the coffee mornings.
regarding oscars willy - when he was born and were checking him over the paediatrician said that his wee hole was too high up and his foreskin did not cover him fully and she thought there might be a problem so wanted to refer us to a plastic surgeon. i asked the ladies on here for their opinion and they advised not to touch it. he has no problems at all going for a wee but we went to the appointment just to get the all clear. The doctor examined him and said that his foreskin needed to be stretched so he pulled it back and showed us the smegma and said its really important to clean this away as in future in can cause his foreskin to stick to his willy and would possibly need circumsising. sorry if i made you worry about toby but im sure he is fine otherwise it would have been picked up.

greedy - LOL at kiki commenting on your "bottom". wow at marcys weight!! she is a big girl

bodkin - thanks for the reassurance on the routine thing, oscar seems very happy just doing his thing as and when he wants and aslong as i am getting a few hours kip, enough to function then il leave things be.

chooster - LOL at "spectacular arsehole" strangely enough my df has days like that too. and the one thing that really pisses me off is men hanging up - i HAVE to have the last say - then hang up

firststar - thanks for the advice - thats so right feeling a failure sometimes, thing is i compare oscar who is nearly 6 weeks to my friends baby who is 2 months older but in a solid routine and sounds like the "perfect" baby. reunion was a bit dissapointing but there will be other times.

rainbow - so pleased you are getting ready for the birth and i really hope it goes as planned and you have a homebirth.

honey - massive awwwwww at dex giggling properly he must sound soooo cute!!!

scorpio - i hope it happens for you soon and you dont go waaayyy over due which would be sods law!

hello seaside and mrs!!!

can i just ask the bottle feeders am i right in thinking that if i sterilise a bottle i can keep it in the fridge for 24 hours? i have been sterilising bottles like a maniac as i did not know this....

also my af arrived thursday is that normal to come soon soon after childbirth at 5 weeks? i know its not the bleeding started up again as i have the cramps too.

we have our 6 week check on tuesday and having a bit of a dilemma with df with the contraception issue - he wants to leave it to fate and is dead against me going back on the pill. i am in limbo as i would really love another but planned on waiting a few months before trying again but definately wanted 2 close together, can i just have your thoughts ladies - is it dangerous say i should fall so soon? as i tore quite bad is it going to be doubley bad next time? would the baby be even bigger than oscar? i just dont know what to do for the best its like having a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other as i have pros and cons for both and i really dont want to neglect oscar should we have another. desicions, desicions, desicions....

hope you all have a good weekend xxx

blimey iamamum! thinking of baby number 2 already! I would definitely give your body and mind a rest for a few months at least before embarking on another PG. Greedy and Rainbow have DC close in age, they will be better to advise than me. how about withdrawal for the time being? Or dont you trust DF!! I expect bleeding is your AF as you arent BF. Why doesnt DF want you to take the pill? I mean it is your body and you who will be getting PG.

i know honey it is a bit soon, we have tried the withdrawal method before whilst on antibiotics and the pill(df gets too carried away) and even though df inisists he will stick to it this time round i just know the time will arise when he has had a drink or whatever and things go too far and he refuses point blank to use condoms. when i came off the pill to start ttc i fell preggers straight away and then went on to miscarry at 12 weeks, df blames the pill for this as he thinks the hormones were not out of my system. there is no proof of this and i dont think it really had anything to do with it just unlucky, but on the other hand it would destroy me if that was the case and i lost another baby.
so i think i will just avoid sex until i want to get preggers i had a randy few weeks after oscar was born but that has drastically plummeted now the sleepless nights have kicked in

iam- have to say that there is ABSOLUTELY no way that you having taken the pill had anything to do with your miscarriage. It must have been awful for you loosing that baby, but please, please do not think for one minute that you did or took anything that may have caused it. No offence, but I think your DP needs to be put straight on that matter. . I believe that everything in life has a reason- and don't forget that if you had had the baby you lost, then you wouldnt have Oscar today. I hope this doesnt come across the wrong way. There is NO medical evidence to suggest that taking the pill leads to fertility problems- you could always take the mini-pill which is a progesterone only pill (you just have to remember to take it at the same time every day).

DP has just rung me- he is a bit pissed- what a surprise- anyway- he said that he has 'gone off' sex since I had Dex...????? Didnt seem to have the same problem after DD... Anyone else have similar experience... maybe I need to start a thread... Also he says my BF is putting him off too... GRRRRGGGRRR he really didnt have these issues after I had DD... Dunno what to say to him- I'm not stopping BF- so GET OVER IT!!! Really dont feel very sympathetic. I guess trying to get jiggy with him this morning whilst Dex was lying next to me pulling my hair wasnt the best in hindsight . Someone please tell me their DP/H is as sensitive .

iamamummy - having two close in age is great, but hard work on the old body. My second pregnancy was a breeze compared to the first, I think my body just went back to pregancy mode very easily, no chance to tighten up the tummy muscles or anything. Dh and I, started off by just not having sex as we were both too tired! Then from about 3 or 4 months we started with no contraception and I was pregnant by 7 months after giving birth. I love having the two so close in age, only 15 months between them. Also on the worry about having a heavier child the second time, it did not happen with me, my dd was 8oz lighter than her older brother. I have met plenty of people who have only 11 months between births!!!!! It can happen and although it is recommended to leave it longer for your body to recover, it would ok. Now hopefully someone else will come here and be the voice of reason for you not to rush into it too soon . BTW af does generally come back soon if you are not bf-ing! I think anywhere between 4 and 6 weeks is considered fairly normal.

Honey - I have not had a homebirth before, I attempted it with ds but he was back to back and long arduous labour with useless midwife, and it being my first, made me surrender to going into hospital after all. With dd, I was already in hospital for a few days beforehand, was planned hospital, but would have ended up being born between home and hospital otherwise!!!! Dh arrived at the hospital as her head was crowning, despite midwife having me in positions to slow down labour!!!!! This time would like to have planned homebirth, although there are a few complications that may necessitate me to transfer to hospital.

Scorpio - we are getting close now, I was measured at 2/5 and 3/5 engaged at 33 weeks, but baby is now going in and out of pelvic brim all the time, I was told it is normal for them to go in and out at this stage and not to take it as a sign that the baby would arrive early, which is different from the advice you were given. But like you I am getting uncomfortable now and would like it to be early.

I also have a feeling that this baby is not going to hold on too much longer, I officially have another three weeks til due date but already had a show earlier in the week and am nesting like crazy..... But my mum does not arrive for another 11 days, hope I can hang on til she gets here?

honey - x-post - pissed dh/dp's are not to be listened to seriously. He is obviously having issues in some way but ringing you to tell you is not helpful. Hope he manages to talk to you about it. I have a problem at the moment with my dh and sex, he says I am too lubricated and that there is not enough friction for him, but I think there are other issues going on for him regarding me being heavily pregnant, but he won't tell me. I was hoping for some decent sessions soon to get the labour induced, but looks like I will have to try other things instead. I would not give up breastfeeding for my dh with previous dc's but he did find the odd squirt of milk a little of putting!

thanks rainbow

right off to bed... just spent an hour trawling through 1000 freecycle messages...

I bet i do go over now; sods law isn't it!!

Honey - sorry i don't really know about your DP; i know men can be funny about bodies and babies and sex, althought to put pressure on you about BF-ing isn't fair

Imamummy - I agree with waiting a bit; your body will be low in nutrients etc, a gap of 18months is recommended to build these back up again.

honey - thanks for that but i know that the pill was no connection to the mc but i think that df found it easier to deal with having something to "blame". and i could not imagine life without oscar now so you are totally right about things happening for a reason. the mini pill sounds like something to definately consider will have to look into it.
@your dp - what has made him bring that subject up - and how bloody insensitive to bring it up over the phone most probaby the drink talking - however that tends to bring out the truth in my df.if he expects you to give up bf for his needs thats very selfish, stick to your guns!

rainbow - sooo many people have told me having 2 close together is hard work but great and has its rewards as when they are old enough they occupy eachother your experience of homebirth first time round sounds just like mine, back to back baby and being your first the pain kind of overrides the desire for homebirth but next time round i will definately be trying for one again! my dp also went off sex from about 6 months onwards - he never gave a valid reason he said he didnt want to poke oscar in the eye but i know there was a deeper reason to it he prob just didnt want to hurt my feelings. and from what i have read its perfectly normal. lol at squirt of milk

oh and if anyone is wondering what i am doing up at such an hour - i have a baby that WILL NOT SLEEP!!! he has been awake since 9am!!!! aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Just quickly - there are so many interesting comments on here and haven't time to go into all of them at the mo... but Fettle - re the BFing and AF - it might be more to do with his age - Isla was definitely very hard to feed in the day at around 5/6 months... too much interesting stuff going on around and very easily distracted. I started wearing one of DD1s plastic bead necklaces while feeding, and that helped - she played with that and carried on feeding... also, in hindsight, I could have probably left longer gaps between feeds (was doing every 3 hours) but since I switched to every 4 hours at 7 months, she got loads better, so you could try that if you are not doing it already...

Am pmsling at the thought of Greedy and Honey's meet up and comparing hairy bottoms and then Marcy eating Dex....

Honey - that is a bit about DP and the BFing. I must admit, mine was a bit gutted when I said I was going to carry on until she was 1. But then he realised if I didn't I was going to make him do the night feeds... he soon came round to the idea!

Greedy - nope we have'nt got secretly married.... just a slip of the keyboard. Although we had wills made recently and we had to state if we thought we ever would get married and we agreed we probably would, so now on our wills he is my "intended husband" and i am his "intended wife" which is quite nice.... I think Iamamummy will beat me down the aisle though.... if she's not too busy knocking out babies left right and centre that is

pmsl bodkin i think 2 with a small age gap is enough for the time being not a whole army of children under the age of 5 thatd be asking for trouble!
i didnt realise you and dp were not married, we are not making any wedding plans probably not for a few years yet it will be a very very long engagement there are so many other things to do before then but atleast i now know its on the cards

chooster - i forgot to reply to one of your questions - i ALWAYS check out the relationship threads. some of them are hilarious and some of them are awful and makes me thankful for my dp even though he can be a git at times! so your not alone

Hi girls!

Just got a quick moment - DH is having a really long bath........with DD, so he's not being allowed to have his hangover in peace!!!He-he-he!!!!! He also took her swimming this afternoon, so all in all he's not done badly!

Iamamummy - have another one now if you really feel up for it - you're young enough to cope physically I would think! Just be warned that it will be exhausting for a while! But worth it in the end, so everyone who has 2 close in age tells me! Personally I loved having some quality time with DD before having another, but the gap was longer than planned due to my mcs. Have to agree on the mc front, not glad I had them, but I wouldn't have met my Toby if I hadn't had them!

Honey - at your DP! When will they learn not to drunk dial?! Hope you've had some further sober, rational discussions about it all now?

My DH knows boobs are off limits at the mo and tolerates it, but doesn't like it - but also realises that bottles mean he's up at night! (little does he realise if I wasn't so tired then he might get his wicked way more often!, so perhaps he should get up once in a while!)

Toby v grumbly, so best be off!

big waves all else!
xxx

happy st patricks day

Thanks girls-
just wanted to clarify- DP never actually said anything like he wants me to stop BF- I dont think he even intended for his comments to make me think that- he knows I am very committed to BF and that it is best for Dex- just wanted to make sure you didnt think I was living with a total male chauvenist (sp?) . Havent had any further discussion about the whole thing yet- I think the booze often helps him to open up- as he is not naturally a very emotional/ expressive chap. heh ho...

Hope you all had good weekends

Is Mrs ever coming back?

Anyone joined their local freecycle? It's hilarious!!

Hi all

Have been meaning to look at freecycle Honey as I've still got loads of stuff hanging around that we could give to someone who may want it. My friend has taken quite a lot of Theo's baby stuff but there's still more to go!! I'll take a look, whats the deal with all the messages you've got?? How does it work? Shame about DP, like you say drink must have loosened him up a bit to talk about something that he wanted to talk about, but the problem with that is that drink doesn't make people very articulate, so it can be dificult to understand what the real issue is! Not a great combination .

Fettle - Good on Dh for taking DD out swimming and letting you have some MN time while bath was going on! My DH also knows that my boobs are off limits. They just feel so sensitive!!

Wow, Iammummy I admire keen-ness to have another despite Oscar not sleeping from 9am til gone 11pm! Thats a long old time awake isn't it!!! Did he sleep long after that? Does a trip out on the buggy help him sleep at all??? You sound very chirpy though which is great!

So, the race is on eh Rainbow and Scorpio!!! Sounds like you'll both be going early - looking forward to some new babes on here .

Gosh, Marcy is big isn;t she Greedy! I thought Theo was pretty big at 20lbs, but he's a good 2 months older... How is your sister coping now? Do you think she will try again?

Speaking of trying, my friend who is having IVF is finding out tomorrow if the 6 embryo's that are being thawed have survived. I've got everything crossed for them, they are both such lovely people - send some good positive vibes tomorrow if you can .

Well, things are progressing fairly rapidly here, Theo is now full on crawling and has started to pull himself up to stand against anything that will bear his weight (and many things that just topple over hence the bumps on his head ) - he's such a little livewire its great to see . I've also found a formula he likes - Hoooray!!! I kept persevering with the aptimal as I thought it was just formual in general he didn't like, but I gave him cow and gate today and he gulped down 2 8oz bottles . The thing is that I think he's had much more milk today from the bottles than from me feeding him as he gets so distracted and just doesn't want to feed. At least with the bottles he's upright and can see whats going on. So I wonder if my daytime bf days are over . I guess I'm not too sad but I would like to carry on in the evening and first thing in the mornimg. Do you think that would work? Also, those with 8 month olds, how much milk does your baby have??? ?I'm not sure if Theo should have 3 or 4 feeds??

Right, better head off as need to do some work for my DH is on a 'personal development' trip to his friends in London. He's replacing his own kitchen and his wife is away while its being done so DH thought he'd help for a few days and see how its done!! I had to admire DH's attempts to sell the idea to me - You see me and the kids will be the ultimate winner when he can replace our kitchen soon - Yeah right!!! . I heard form him earlier and they went straight to the pub once he arrived and they are now having a chinese... they must be talking about all the kitchen work they'll be doing tomorrow .

morning

greedy- you've scared me off ... cant do the 11th... my lot are on easter hols then and DD has a birthday party to go to... have to make it a couple of wks later.

chooster-re freecycle- i've got good response from some 2nd hand reusable nappies that i didnt end up using- definitely worth signing up.