TTC GRADUATES! Who's baby will we be welcoming first? Mrs? Seaside? Iampg? Beansprout?

[honeyapple]

Morning all

Dex did another stupendous sleep... had to wake him up to feed him and take DC to school. Fingers crossed this is a pattern he is going to stick to.

Fettle- hope Toby is ok with the jabs... Dex has got his 2nd lot next week. What is the third injection for? Did they do the polio one in his mouth yet? Dex only had 2 jabs first time around. That Messiah was a bit gruesome!

mrs- any action overnight?

Seaside and Iampg- a lot of the lovely ladies on here were early- Bodders you were 38 wks, i think??

Sorry- so excited about the pending births that I cant remember what I was going to say to anyone else!

Hi Seaside - Yeah you should make an appt for you too. I did one for Theo and one for me. Sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit overwhelmed. Its a funny old thing because hormones and adrenalin keep you on a natural high for teh few weeks after the birth (at least it did with me) and about now you can sometimes feel a bit daunted by it all. Someone once told me that that is why nature makes babies smile at about 6 weeks as that is just when it can start to get on top of you a bit and then they smile and it all seems good again!!!

Ooops, Theo needs me - back soon!

Oooh that sounds sore Fettle, when are they going to do the next procedure? Good in Toby for being well behaved! How could anyone resist having a little chat to a baby when they are in the same room .

Greedy - How did your sis's booking in appt go in the end? When is her scan?

Actually city - when is your scan?? Must be soon.

Hi to everyone else!!!! Hope all is well with you all. The boys are in bed and I'm about to get ready to go out for a walk with some friends for some exercise. They are all doing the moonwalk which is kind of what this training is all about. I was going to do it too but realised that its a midnight start and we wont be finished til morning and at the moment sleep is still the one thing I crave - so the idea of missing a whole night doesn't appeal . I know its for a good cause but I'd probably rather donate money and get a nights sleep .

Oh and well done Toby for the rolling!!!! And how cute is your DD Fettle for getting him a sticker - Ahhh, thats just SO lovely

chooster!! you did a bit of a me then with a million posts in a row!
my sisters booking in was fine......just like i told her it would be! not sure what she was so worried about, i can understand it with the scan or blood tests but not really with a few questions. anyway, she got through it!!! her scan is in 3 weeks.i cant wait, but i am really nervous for her, which strangely she isnt at all for some reason!

seaside - i think they do the 6/8 wk check differently everywhere. in my area it was an 8 wk check and the doc did all the stuff on marcy and then asked me a few questions but didnt examine me or anything and that was it. she did say if i had any problems to make an appt to see her another time, so maybe you should if you are worried about anything. i have never ever had my bits checked after any of my births once i had left hospital, not even when i had stitches. how do you feel down below? are you still sore or do you feel like you have healed well?

seaside - i think the first few weeks after having a baby are great........the baby is generally really good and sleeps most of the time and if they start to cry they are easily comforted, but when they get a bit bigger they can get a bit more demanding. also, everyone else seems to think the first few weeks will be the toughest, but actually once your dp/dh has gone back to work and most of the visitors have stopped it gets REALLY tough and you can feel really lonely and overwhelmed. i think its a good time to look into doing things like baby yoga, or baby massage and meet as many other mums as possible with similar age babies cos there is always someone with a nightmare baby who makes you feel like the best and luckiest mum in the world!!!

well done toby!!!!!!what a clever saussage! marcy actually bent her legs up the other day as if to grab her toes, but that is as much as she has done!!!!! shes very good at eating though!!! and she has been a little angel today and done nothing but smile all day, apart from 10 minutes at 3.45pm when i took her into ellis' parent consultation at school with me and she screamed the whole time!!! well timed marcy!!!!

Hey, just updating. I had a show on Monday, bit freaked because im 35 weeks and i have never seen one before, despite this being third time! Rang MW and she said no worries, could be weeks yet. Had other children at 39 weeks so Millie may be the same or even 38 weeks.

Isn't that strange Greedy, I thought everywhere must do a 6 week check for the baby and one for the mum too. Wierd how it changes so much. They probably asked the same questions though and I've never had my bits looked at either after the boys. Hope you are doing a bit better seaside. Greedy's ideas of joining groups are ace as I used to really look forward to the times I was meeting other mums when I had Max. It gets a bit harder to do those things once number 2 comes along so enjoy while you can .

Wow, Scorpio a show!!!! Wonder if this means that Millie will be even earlier than your boys! How are you feeling generally - has it felt differnet carrying a girl after the 2 boys. I always thought that those things were old wives tales , i.e carrying low / high means a boy.

Dont quite know what to do with myself as Theo has been asleep for over 2 hours now . I've slep for a bit and kept checking on him but he's snoozing away fairly happily. Where has my baby gone that only does the tiniest short naps!!!

Hi all

Seaside - agree with others - the first 6 weeks you are surrounded by support and have euphoria to help you through. Suddenly it gets all quiet and it is just you and baby, but it will get better again. Around 12 weeks you'll start to feel a totally different person again! Get out and about as much as you can, but it is also ok just to cuddle up on the sofa all day in front of the telly! As for feeling weepy, my doctor told me at my 6 week check (when I also was very weepy and teary having passed th HV PND questionnaire the day before with top marks!!). he said he would be more worried if you didn't have the odd down and emotional day - it is when they are more often than not, that you ought to be more concerned about your mental well-being. It is pretty tough being pg and giving birth, so it's going to take a lot longer than 6 weeks to completely heal mentally and physically!

Toby and I had a 6 week check together, but I had to register for both, but had no choice over which doctor I went to. I was asked how I was feeling and said I was still sore down there - he offered to have a look, but as it was a he, I declined politely!!. He said that only if I still had probs at around 4-6 months would they inveigate further anyway, so I took it back to my own female GP a few weeks later, when there was still problems. If you are feeling fine and the bleeding (you did bleed didn't you? Otherwise would be worrie dthey've sewed you shut!!!) has stopped/subsided then you are probably ok down there - only need it looked at if you think there are any problems!

Chooster - at your sleeping baby. Mine just won't day or night. Although he doesn't need me at night, he's noisy enough to keep us all awake so after about an hour I go to him and feed him just to make him go to sleep! Think I might start giving him at least 1 bottle a day, to make sure he's getting enough milk during the day, as he still only has 1 boob at each feed, except the last one of the day, when he has both.

Greedy - Marcy definitely has good timing then and wants to be the centre of attention!!!

Scopio - how exciting!!

right - supposed to be going out with some other Mums tonight, so had better get on and sort out children, so they go to bed on time tonight, but as DD fell asleep in the car could be interesting!

BTW - Chooster, how is MrsMc getting on? Do you hear from her at all?

big waves to all else
xxx

Hi all. Sorry I've been so dreadful at posting lately - I don't know why, but I just can't seem to find the time, and the less regularly I post, the harder it is to catch up and it becomes a viscious cycle, which I shall now attempt to BREAK

Fettle - glad to hear they won't be removing your scar tissue with acid Poor you, that does sound grim indeed. Easter hols sounds good for our meet up I didn't know that Toby had become such a bad sleeper, after being such a good one...teeth? warm enough? Big bottle of milk before bed sounds like a good plan!

Chooster - so Theo is nearly on the move eh? Isla too, a matter of weeks before she crawls I reckon, she's getting up onto all fours now. Still not very keen on sitting though come on luv, you're 8 months nearly! Glad to hear he's finally getting some nice long day naps in, it must have been hard when all he was having was catnaps. Love the new pic - he is utterly gorgeous and angelic!

Seaside - sounds like everyone's given you some good advice already. Yes, I'm afraid to say the honeymoon period does come to an end.... but then, it comes back again! Isla is so smiley and funny these days (well, 75% of the time anyway) I've fallen in love all over again
But I think also around the 6 week mark the realisation that this is it, your life has changed forever kicks in and it does take some adjusting to your new life, with your very demanding new boss, and your new (extremely long) working hours. Also the pay is crap

Greedy - pmsl at your "big lass from sawbridgeworth" line! Glad your sister's booking in went well and there's been no more bleeding. Good to hear Marcy is enjoying her grub. Isla is still a very dainty eater, although she went mad for the broccoli last night, just kept grabbing it off my plate and stuffing it in her mouth. As you can imagine, her nappy was pretty interesting this morning!

Honeyapple - your house in Cornwall sounds a bit fab - when are you going?
Ahh, that's sweet of your DS bringing you "a cup of tea"
Sounds like you're doing well on the old washable nappies. I;m a bit crap really, I've discovered that Isla's persistant nappy rash is actually eczema, because if I put DD1s Efcortelan on it, it goes away really quickly, and stays away as long as I use disposables. As soon as I put a motherease back on, the eczema comes back. I might try boil washing all the nappies without any washing powder to try and "strip" them (of bacteria and washing powder build up etc.) and see if that helps, but have to admit that having used the disposables for the last couple of months, I've got a bit lazy.

Sleepwise, things here are very changeable, some nights dreadful, others pretty good. Last night she woke at 10pm (very unusual for her) so i fed her she seemed fine, just very awake. She then slept through until 6am. But when I've tried to do that in the past it hasn't worked, so now I'm in 2 minds as to whether I should try again tonight....or let sleeping babes sleep....

I'll put a new picture up as well. Can I just proudly boast that I made the spotty fleece suit she is wearing myself

Honeyapple - Ooh i live in Cornwall...have a great time!

Chooster - Millie bump is smaller and lower than my boy bumps But just as active, same symptoms in beginning, etc etc. Had slight more spotting today, but she is very active and no pain so OK

i spoke too soon about my sis. she has had more bleeding and pain over the past 2 days. she is having a scan tomorrow to see whats going on but i am convinced its bad news. she never has any luck.
so, all a bit sad here today

Oh Greedy - your poor sis. I guess there is always hope that it will be Ok. Fingers crossed for her tomorrow. I so so hope its good news for her - it does sound like she deserves a break.

Oh Greedy - your poor sis! She really is having a tough time - so hope that it is nothing. Keep us updated.

Bodders - just sent you an e-mail - hope i found the right person!!! Or else someone is going to get a very strange e-mail.

Talking of random people stalking - I had a friend request on facebook today from a random Canadian man! Declined it politely and just hope it was a mistake and he's got me confused with someone else!!!

take care all
xxx

well, my poor sis has gone to the hospital. she had lots of pain and was 'gushing blood' (her words) this afternoon. she is so upset bless her. it took them so long to get pg and its so unfair that they have lost their baby.

i am also really annoyed at her stupid hospital that they didnt just scan her 5 weeks ago when she had her first lot of bleeding and then she could have found out then probably and started to deal with it all 5 weeks ago, instead of having 5 more weeks to get excited and baby stuff.

its so crap for her and i really didnt know what to say to make her feel better. those of you who have had mcs before.........what is the best thing for me to do/say? all i keep focusing on is that you are often super fertile after a mc.......but i know she might not even want to hear that or think about that yet. also i keep saying " at least you know you can get pg now"..........she is probably sick of me saying that too. i feel completely useless!

ooh greedy - your poor poor sister. I hope the bleeding calms down quickly for her - they should have scanned her 5 weeks ago - I'm amazed they didn't. Anyway.....

Just be there for her - let her talk and talk and talk about it (if she wants do!). DO NOT SAY "at least you know you can get pg" - that is probably the worst thing you can say!!!

Once she has come to terms with it, you can encourage her that you can sometimes be more fertile after a mc, but i think that really only holds true, for an early 5-6 week mc, not one at a later date, as it takes longer for the body to sort itself out.

Encourage her to come onto Mumsnet, if you dare and look at the mc threads - they really really helped me after my 1st mc and why I got hooked on MNs and why you are all now stuck with me!!

Also don't forget your brother in law - people seem to focus on the woman, but the father has lost a child too. He will be finding it very hard to deal with, but will be internalising it to remain strong for your sister. They must talk about it to each other - I thought DH was being heartless and fine about it all until we spoke and he just cried and cried and cried and said he was so heart-broken, he just didn't know what to do and say to me!

Give her a big big big cuddle and let her open up to you - don't bombard her with questions, but please do encourage her to talk about it - she'll be amazed how many other people around her have had MCs, and she never knew about it - it will give her strength.

Sorry - bit of an epic there!

xxx

Oh Greedy I'm so sorry to hear that. That's really awful for your sis, and especially to have got her hopes up and had her booking in and everythihg. I'm sure you'll be great support for her. Lovely wise advice from Fettle.

Fettle - have replied to your e-mail Might have to tell DP now.

Oh, Bodders, I hope my e-mail didn't give it away!

DH isn't planning on coming with us as he'll be at work, so we can still keep it a secret from your DP!

Any news from the hospital, Greedy?

thanks fettle and bodders.

my sis was bleeding huge amounts by the sounds of it. my mum said she had a bath towel held between her legs and soaked through it walking from the car to the hospital. i never realised you bled that much. anyway, she had to ahve oxygen cos she was getting really faint and then she couldnt let them examine her cos she has these vaginal spasms (hence the AI in the first place). but the dr did a scan and there must have been retained bits cos then she had an ERPC. so she had to have her first general anaesthetic ever and i know she will have been shitting herself. my mum has been with her all day and she is so upset too.

i will try to follow your advice fettle. how long should she have off work do you think cos i know she will ask me.

sorry.....im a bit me me me today, hope you are all fine

I had op on Thursday and was back at work on the following Monday, but then had continued bleeding and pain so had to go back to the GP on the Mon afternoon. As soon as she saw me, she was really nice to me and I burst into tears and she signed me off for another 1 if not 2 weeks, as she realised I wasn't mentally ready for work!

Your sis needs to see how she feels emotionally - some people find they need to throw themselves back into work to forget, others need time to themselves to readjust - I needed a mixture of both (and my wonderful MN support!!)

My bleeding went on for about 8 weeks in total until they scanned me and found my first ERCP hadn't been successful, so I had to have another.

Her bleeding should settle down pretty quickly after her ERCP, if it doesn't get her to go back to GP and ask for a rescan to check the operation was complete. They err on the side of caution as they don't want to risk perforating the uterus.

It is a relatively short procedure, so she won't have been under anesthetic for too long - although mine was planned so maybe easier than her emergency one. She shouldn't be in too much pain they say, but I needed morphine after my 2nd ERCP as I was in agony - so I hope she is ok and hasn't lost too much blood. Hope they dont' keep her in too long, as she'll be in the gyny ward near all the normal pg people - it is the worse thing about it all!

Is she your older or younger sister? you sound like a very good sister to have!!!
xxx

Big hugs Greedy I really feel for you and your sis at such a tough time

sounds awful Greedy. Your poor sis.

No don't worry Fettle, no game given away. Just feel I should tell him

she is my big sis, but has always been more like a little sis cos i have always had to look after her.

she is on a ward with mothers and babies like you said fettle. sounds horrible. and she works in the baby room at a nursery which is a bit crap for her too.

she lost so much blood that they said she would need a blood transfusion, i really had no idea it could be so bad.........shows how naive i am.

her dh is lovely, but a bit hopeless to be honest. he went out of the room when she was being examined (or not in her case!) and said " i'll leave you to it then" he is very easily embaressed and a bit of a prude and i think he felt uncomfortable, but my mum had seious words with him and made him promise not to leave her again.

i have a really horrible feeling that she will be too traumatised by the whole thing and be too scared to ever attempt ttc again. i just know what shes like. anyway, i'm rambling now, sorry, just nice to unload if you know what i mean.

g'night all.

xxx

that wasn't meant to sound mean.......i LIKE looking after her.

hugs Greedy you sound very brave

Sorry havent posted for a few days-

Greedy- so sorry to hear about your sis- sounds really awful and traumatic . Wise words indeed from Fettle . I really hope that it hasnt put her off TTC in the future. You sound like you are being a great sister. If you are still up for that meet then that Friday is fine with me- I am really embarrassed- I can't remember your RL name ... I can actually only remember Bodders and Mrs's for some reason ... It's really bugging me!

BTW- when I said one cube of baby food- I have these quite big babyfood freezer trays- so prob equivalent of about 3 or 4 normal sized ice cubes.

Scorpio- i had a show at about 35 wks- really freaked me out too! But Dex was still 10 days late... hope your Millie stays put for a bit longer .

My SIL had her baby early on wednesday night as she was taken into hospital with pre- pre-eclampsia. She was due an elected c-section on monday- but William decided he wanted to make an earlier appearance. Looking forward to meeting him on Sunday.

Bodders- I reckon giving your nappies a good boil might do the trick- probably some bugs lurking in them. I must say I LOVE not using disposables, really happy I made the decision to give them a whirl. We are going to Cornwall first week in August- fingers crossed for some decent British summer. I want to go to the eden project as never been- anyone know if it is worth a trip?

Fettle- ouch indeed! Acid! Crikey! . Hope the procedure is fast and painless. When are you having it?

Mrs- are you out there????

Rainbow- how is it at home?

Seaside- Hope Cassius is being a good boy- glad all the visitors have gone. Agree with others about getting out and about and meeting some RL mums! I'm planning on going to a baby swim class... need to get a cossie for me cos I only have bikinis... not sure that would be appropriate to wear??? .

Iamamum- Hows Oscar? Meant to say LEAVE HIS WILLY ALONE!!! DO NOT FIDDLE WITH HIS FORESKIN!!!

Chooster- how are your boys? No colds I hope!

I can hear Dex making funny noises on the intercom...better go and see what it's about

Dex has just started blowing raspberries- which is very funny- but very dribbly too! He seems to be constantly wet around his chin. Got some lovely pics to post...