Due Feb/Mar after MC 🌈 🙈

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Hi all,

4+3 according to Flo app, pregnant after a miscarriage in March at 11 weeks so feeling very anxious / scared and needed a safe space to speak about pregnancy worries without thriving anyone of joy!

Feel free to join and share the journey together.

@RedElleJ ❤️❤️❤️ I fully get it, fully understand, I'm the same after the losses and this year in general it's honestly just felt like one knock back after another. I'm trying to be calm and positive for this pregnancy, and I do feel hopeful as also feel better looked after, less stressed out at work as I've got reduced hours ATM after the MC, and also generally a bit healthier so I am hopeful it's all good conditions but it doesn't stop the fear, and it's so hard to shake fear once it sets in. So we are always here for eachother when the fear does get bad 🙏❤️🤞

Not many of you have posted your 12 week scan pics I've realised!!! Post some if you like 🥰 always nice to see x

My NHS scan pics were a bit rubbish as baby was tucked right in with their legs crossed chilling. My pic from the private scan a week before was actually much better. Will share that one.

Baby was proper stretched out in this one but also "stress rubbing" their forehead I said. 😅 Gets that from me.

I went to the dentist today and when they took one look at me after I mentioned I was pregnant they said "that's a boy anyway from how you're carrying". Lol. My family all convinced its a girl but I've also a feeling it's a boy. I think the sonographer at my 12 wk scan knew too. They kept saying "very nice baby" and I've a feeling they said that in case the accidentally said the sex. Lol

@RedElleJ I 100% understand the short lived relief from the anxiety. Once you get to a point where you feel them move (I know this could still be up to 10 weeks away but might be sooner), you will probably relax a bit more. At the moment it's tough not knowing what's going on in there. With my DS I got so fed up of not having any face 2 face appointments with midwife due to first covid lockdown and I ended up buying a home doppler. I used it once when I was about 19 weeks. Wouldn't exactly recommend it but by that stage nerves were through the roof and I was 10 weeks between any sort of scan or face to face appointment. I recall just being in tears several times with the anxiety of not knowing. So I get it totally. Do whatever you feel will help you mentally cope with what is a nervous time.

@STom2 what a perfect picture 🥰 clear as anything look at that beautiful bubba!

@Skylark1990 chickenpox boy is good thanks he is all scabby spotty but not infected anymore which is a relief.

Also about the pain you mentioned I recall having similar pains around the 5 weeks mar thinking it was early to be having that kind of soreness but all seemed fine!

@RedElleJ sounds like round ligament pain I know I have been getting it a lot lord recently when I go to turn in bed suddenly or cough sneeze without warning etc. you do just question everything after loss don't you it's only natural.

Hope everyone is having a good day and happy Friday all X

Hey all.... I've had brown spotting all week and tonight it's quite heavy.... My next nhs scan is Monday but I've booked a private 1 tomorrow. Been having frequent stabbing pains on the right side today too. I think this is the end of the road for me 🙄

@STom2 yes I was in the dreaming of rainbows thread with you and @Hagster, nice to see familiar ‘faces’ 😊

unfortunately it wasn’t good news for me today, and there has been no growth since my last scan. I am booked in for medical management on Monday. Hopefully I will be back on these boards in a few weeks and wishing you all luck and smooth pregnancies xx

Oh @littegoth I'm really sorry to hear this. Hope you're doing okay. And really do hope to see you back here in a few weeks. x

@furbabymum15 I'm sorry to hear you're having such a nerve wrecking time. Glad you were able to book a scan for tomorrow. Hopefully it gives you some reassurance that the spotting isn't overly concerning. I always think when it's brown this means old blood so it might not be indicative of anything happening at present.

@Littlegoth so sorry, sending you love

@Furbabymum15 that sounds scary but hopefully it's nothing, I just had a scan foe bleeding (red and brown) and it was nothing and EPU said over 80% of bleeding on their experience isn't bad news. Fingers crossed for you.

@Skylark1990 thanks for the advice re progesterone, I've read the studies and I'm happy with the Drs decision for now but if I spot anymore I will request it ASAP. Glad your scan went well!

@STom2 lovely photo! Baby looks similar skull shaped to my son so I'll say boy. Im also convinced that my current pregnancy is another boy.

@LittleLottle @STom2 thankyou for your kind responses I sincerely hope all will be OK but with measuring 2 wks behind and now a bleed I have a bad gut feeling. The bleeding has stopped for now and my scan is at 1045 so I will know 1 way or another xx

So I've a question that's playing on my mind a little. With my first scan at the EPU I was measured at 6+5 (about 3 days behind what I was guessing based on ovulation). Then at a private scan at what I thought would be 11+1 they dated me as 12+0. So 6 days ahead of first scan. Fine. Then a week and a half later at my NHS 12 week scan they dated me as 12+5. But based on the private scan I thought this would have been 13+3. So they dated me a day ahead of the original one at the EPU, and more in accordance with dates I thought I had, but 5 days behind what the private one measured just over a week before. Everything else was fine and they were happy ans when I mentioned it to NHS sonographer he said he was very confident with his measurements. It's just playing on my mind now as I don't know how much margin for error there is with measurements at this stage. As the scans were only just over a week apart, do I assume the private one was off in measurements (he did mention baby was stretched out that day whereas NHS legs were crossed). Or (the concern), that growth suddenly slowed down between the private and NHS ones?

Sorry if this doesn't make sense. It just started playing on my mind again this morning!!!

@STom2 Scans and measurements can be a bit of a minefield, in the early stages the margin for error is huge as the baby is just so small half a mm difference can change the dates a lot. With my first pregnancy I had my due date changed 3 times (pushed later each time) baby came then by their dates 2 weeks early but by my calculations bang on time. He was 7lbs 3 and fine!

My last pregnancy was a missed miscarriage, detected at 18 weeks but baby died around 5 weeks prior. I had an early private scan at 8 weeks and baby measured two weeks behind where I thought (I tracked my cycles/ovulation) and then my NHS scan at what I thought was 12 weeks I was told they were only 10 weeks. I had another scan 2 weeks later and they were measuring 12 weeks and all looked fine, so I assumed I did just somehow get my dates wrong. Unfortunately this did end just awfully, I don’t know if measurements could potentially of been a warning sign or not as he maintained being two weeks behind throughout the first trimester as opposed to gradually falling more and more behind before passing.

My third pregnancy I’m now 14 weeks I had a early scan at 7+2 and was told I only measured 5 weeks at the most. I was heartbroken and convinced it was another bad outcome but at my NHS scan I had caught up almost exactly (still 4 days out but they do say to give or take 5 days so within that margin) I have a private scan tomorrow just to check if everything is still ok so I guess we’ll know more then but I have a cautiously optimistic feeling this time around.

Your dates varying by up to around 6 days is still pretty much within that margin of error +/- 5 days so try not to stress too much (easier said than done!!)

I am very sorry to hear your news @Littlegoth please take care of yourself 💔

My fingers are crossed for you @Furbabymum15 let us know x

@STom2 I would agree with @doingitalllagain that the scans are not super reliable ways of dating esp super early on. With my DD at the 12 week scan i was out forward 5 days, and she was 13days late but going off my known ovulation only 8 days - honestly I think she was just a bigger baby as towards the end she was also measuring big which caused a scare as they wanted to induce me (I said no) Nd she came out only 8lbs8oz, 59th percentile and not the 95th they predicted, the whole debacle made me realise through lots of research and speaking to my excellent midwife that the scans are notoriously unreliable at measuring dates/ size, they can be out by 20%. This is with regard to growth scans but I think it would apply similarly to dating. So I would try not to worry... Which date estimate feels most right to you based on conception? I'd go with that.

I'm having a worry ATM re early scans and worrying they could cause harm to fetus e.g. development disorders such as autism as there have been a few studies (all flawed in some way but there has been some correlation drawn). Now don't know whether to have the 7 and 10 week ones GAH!!

Lots of you had a few early ones didn't you? Am I being silly? 😩

Thanks @Skylark1990 and @doingitalllagain. Based on my estimated dates then the one I was given at my NHS scan would be correct. So I guess I'll stick with that. I was surprised when the private one dated me almost a week ahead TBH. But I do recall him saying something about them "stretching out" after a certain time whereas the baby's position at the NHS scan was more difficult and the legs were crossed etc. Didn't look "stretched out" in same way. So I guess that could have changed things.

@skylark1990 I'm not familiar with the studies you've been reading and I've not heard of anything like this before. I did look up whether having too many scans was considered harmful, and the general consensus was that they used sound waves (I think?!). Ie there's no radiation, so they're not considered harmful to baby or mother.

@Skylark1990 thankyou for your kind words....... Its not looking good.... I'm still bleeding and baby is now measuring 3 wks behind there's still a heart beat albeit a very weak 1. I've an appointment at epu on Monday and I'm pretty certain it's gunna be miscarriage number 4 for me x

Sorry to hear this @furbabymum15. Hopefully they can give a little more guidance at the EPU scan tomorrow on what to expect. Hope you're doing okay today as appreciate you're still in limbo stage. xx

@Littlegoth I remember you from before, nice to see you again but I'm so very sorry to hear it's not worked out this time. I hope to see you back here soon and I will be thinking of you today x

@Furbabymum15 I'm so sorry you're going through this again, this whole process is so cruel. Take care x

@STom2 can totally appreciate that worry worming its way in there! I do agree with others about the inconsistency of scans and tentatively would say it sounds ok. Why do they do this to us though?!

@Skylark1990 I was always taught that correlation doesn't equal causation, so would definitely treat those studies with a pinch of salt. But totally appreciate that the worry exists anyway and of course we just want to do whatever we can to make things the best for our baby.

@doingitallagain how did the private scan go yesterday?

Good luck to others having a scan today, I'm feeling all mixed about it as last time we had a 12 week scan with my husband it all went wrong - I just want him to have a positive experience this time.

@Hagster The frustrating part is, had I not had the private scan, then all other scans would have been in accordance with my dates so I wouldn't have thought anything of it! It's the private one randomly dating me 6 days ahead that threw me. Will ignore for now I think. I don't want to rush out and get another private scan as it could confuse me more.

Best of luck with your 12 week scan today!!

Thanks @Hagster and @STom2 I think it's just easy to get worried about every little thing. Going to work on being zen this week! Leaning towards pushing the scan a little later as I actually think the anxiety may be partly to do with the fact I MC at 6+3 last time and 7+1 doesn't feel much later than that, and not sure it'll give me the reassurance I would need ... It's a weird one as I'd like that reassurance sooner but if it's earlier on not sure how much I would trust it anyway? Honestly I'd like to just forget I'm pregnant for a few weeks 😅 just need to remember that today I'm pregnant and trust everything will go as if should 🤞🤞

Having some nausea since Saturday, and a small spew this morning - my drink of water upon waking came straight back up! Also craving pizza ... And nipples a bit sore ... So all good signs hopefully 🙏🙏🙏🙏

How are you all?

@Furbabymum15 thinking of you, let us know how the scan goes xx

Morning guys!

How is everyone doing?

good luck for scans happening today and next few days

@Furbabymum15 thinking of you!

Morning all just want to good luck to all those who have scans in the coming days ❤️

My nhs scan now is not till end of next month so it's a bit of a wait for me now but my nausea is not as bad which is expected at this stage but now I'm waiting on the kicks which I know won't be for a while either haha always something it's a waiting game 🤣

Hey everyone..... Thankyou for thinking of me xx
I had a massive bleed this morning so as expected my scan confirmed I miscarried this morning unfortunately that 4 in a row for me.
I wish you all the best of luck in your pregnancies ♥️♥️♥️

Hey everyone,

Gosh, I couldn’t have coped with so little face to face @STom2. I have made myself stay away from buying a doppler though as I know I will rely on it too heavily and it will likely make my anxiety worse. Completely understand why it helped you in that situation though. Also in terms of your dates I think all is fine - 6 days ahead is well within the margin for error window. I know I would be confused if it was me too and its easy for me to say it but I would definitely stick to your NHS dates if they have been the most consistent.

Really sorry to hear your news @Littlegoth. I hope today goes as well as it can and you can rest up. We are here if you need us. X

Hey @Skylark1990, I definitely wouldn’t worry about scans. Some women get them weekly due to high risk and if the studies were concrete enough we would be warned/limited on the amount of scans we could book privately. Mine today will be my 3rd in two weeks but planning on leaving a 4 week gap after this one as they start to get more expensive the further along you are.

So sorry @Furbabymum15 - such a stressful time for you. Take all the time you need to recover. If you need us, you know where we are :) x

Good luck to everyone who has 12 week scans today and this week - sending lots of positivity your way x

So sorry to read this @Furbabymum15
Sending the very best wishes

I have my 12w scan this afternoon. Have had bleeding on and off which started again this weekend. Had 10w scan with harmony a couple of weeks ago and all was fine. Holding my breath all day hoping this one is too