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@czycoup I'm so sorry for your news.

@CurryandSnuggle I would love a vbac. I don't have my birth options appointment until 32 weeks though!
I asked my midwife at my 16 week appointment, she said she would recommend reading the guidance from RCOG and NICE.
What did they say about vbac at your call?

@CurryandSnuggle

Anyone here considering VBAC?

Had my birth options phone call this week and I’ve been told that I’m a good candidate for VBAC. I’m now weighing up my options as I was originally thinking I’d just opt for a c-section.

I had my births option call in the week. I'm going down the planned c section route but after listening to the midwifes advice I've said id remain open to the possibility of a vbac if it happens that I go into labour before my c section date and it progresses quickly etc and that there were no indicators that I may have trouble like I did in the first birth.

I found the phone call so useful - I didn't even know it was a thing but it really helped me get past my previous EMCS and plan for this birth!

@sunflower198 what did the midwife say? Was there anything specific that made you think it might be an option for you?

[quote Octoblockisadick]@sunflower198 what did the midwife say? Was there anything specific that made you think it might be an option for you?[/quote]
We chatted through what happened previously - he was 9 days late so bigger and back to back, and I ended up with an infection after being induced so c section was safest option.
But she said if went into labour before planned c section date, the baby wouldn't be overdue this time and if in a good position and labour appeared that it would progress well, and there was no immediate space in theatre, They would discuss considering progressing a vbac with me.

@sunflower198 do you think you might go for it?
Will you have an elective booked for around your due date then in case baby doesn't come before?

Is anyone getting a dockatot (formerly sleepyhead) type thing or used one previously? I've heard mixed things

@Matilda30 I'm not getting anything like that as they are not safe for sleeping.

@Matilda30 this is my biggest dilemma !!!! People are so conflicted on them. My friend had a baby at Christmas and her midwife said to her they are fine to use as long as you are not drinking or using drugs or anything. Which is a weird thing to say but I think it means that your alert. But then the company states not for sleeping. People I know who have used them said they wouldn’t be without them it’s just the safety risks that are out there. Would love to know some more opinions on it.

@Flowerbug1994 I’m afraid I’m with @Matilda30. Didn’t get one for our daughter and not getting one now, I would worry too much about it.
We had our daughter in the empty Snuzpod, in a sleeping bag and that’s it. I found she could kick and move blankets too much for my liking so not even trying them this time.

Sorry, I mean I’m with @Lostintranslatio. Personally I worry they’re not safe.

We'll be getting one to use for the likes of the living room etc as seen a few friends them while they are awake just to lie in on a wide space on the space, gives mum a chance to make a cup of T! But won't be using in the crib for sleeping xx

@Flowerbug1994 @Matilda30 the whole co-sleeping thing is an utter minefield. I was totally against the whole idea until I had a child, then realised I was unlikely to get any sleep otherwise, so I began to examine how to do so in the safest way possibly, conscious of the risks. Frankly, nothing we do with our previous babies comes entirely risk free, so anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. But we all desperately search for the definitive ‘right’ way to do everything in the hope it will keep our children safe.

The big things with co-sleeping are not to do so on couches (so many horrible stories) and never to do so if anyone in the bed has consumed alcohol or is a smoker, as it means you sleep more deeply and might roll on top of them. Neither of us smoke and were too knackered to drink those first six months, and we have a super king bed that is too high for those sleep next to me things. I did use the Sleepyhead to create a barrier around my son while we coslept and you’ll find HVs who tell you this is the worst thing to do and others who have no problem with it and find it sensible. It’s stressful worrying if you’re doing the right thing but you have to explore the options and make the calls that are right for you.

Omg baby brain this morning, *a wide space on the sofa 😂

@Matilda30 We used a sleepy head with my son until he was 8 months old and it was amazing. He wouldn't sleep in his snuzpod without it there was too much space and they are so used to being all squished up in the womb. We will be using our sleepyhead again this time

@EarlGreywithLemon I'm not very sure about the blankets not being well tucked in either. Do you have any recommendations of sleeping bags for newborns? Maybe for a June baby a sleepsuit could be enough?

@Lostintranslatio we used gro snugs with our daughter, and they are suitable for newborns. You can also tuck in the arms and zip them up to use as a swaddle, but our daughter didn’t like that. I think they are called Swaddle Bags now - you should be able to pick up some second hand if you’d rather not buy new. We had 2.5 tog and 1 tog for our daughter, who is a winter baby, but I just saw and bought a 0.2 tog for this baby. I think it should be ok for summer, but if hot a sleepsuit or even a vest should definitely do the trick

If you scroll down the page there’s a temperature chart for what to wear here: www.tommeetippee.com/en-us/product-support/support-grobag

Not cheap, but, in the hope we’d have more than one, we invested in several merino wool sleeping bag things like this merinokids.co.uk/collections/merino-sleeping-bags

I’m Australian, so utterly indoctrinated into the benefits of merino wool re warmth but also breathability/cooling. Three were more than enough.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I might leave it then. I didn't have a sleepyhead with my son but he was an awful sleeper not sleeping through for 2 years so I'm desperate for this one to sleep better. I've also seen these which I might try: lovetodream.co.uk/products/swaddle-up-bamboo-original-1-0-tog-grey-marle.html

@EarlGreywithLemon thanks a million for the info! I will look into these gro bags definitely.

Morning Everyone! Hope you’re all well! I didn’t sleep very well last night. I’ve been very lucky and have been able to feel kicks, punches and somersaults for at least 2 weeks straight - However, over the last two days I’ve felt nothing. I’ve tried all sorts to try and get the baby to move so I would feel something but haven’t. I know they say not to be concerned until 26+ weeks but it’s hard when I’m so used to this baby giving me beats!

[quote EarlGreywithLemon]If you scroll down the page there’s a temperature chart for what to wear here: www.tommeetippee.com/en-us/product-support/support-grobag[/quote]
This is super useful - thanks!
The UK site even mentioned a 0.2 tog one. I've picked a few up on vinted already and they seem to be adversaries as 'light' and 'cosy', to add to the confusion. But I think the labels have all the details.

The clothing bit of the chart is great.

@Roxystar23 Hi, I don’t know what the rules are in your area but my midwife told me 2 weeks ago that we don’t count till 28 weeks as babies are so small they can still tuck themselves away we’re we can’t feel the moving. If it makes you feel better I feel like my baby definitely has quite days. Am 21+2 now and I’ve been feeling movement since 16 weeks and I’ve had a couple of days when he doesn’t do much and then days when he is mad. It reassured me at my 20 week scan that he was going nuts in there on the screen and I didn’t feel a thing. If it calms you down call your maternity hospital and ask some advice I know j always calm down when I speak to a professional xxx

@Roxystar23 echoing what @Flowerbug1994 said - I'm 22 weeks today and some days where it feels like she's having a non-stop party and then have had others where there's nothing. It definitely is worrying at first, but don't worry, they'll come back! We're still quite a way from 28 weeks so our babies are still pretty small :) (though according to my app she's the size of an aubergine and, looking at some in Aldi yesterday, they're massive??!!)