Unvaccinated

[Alisha32]

Is anyone unvaccinated and pregnant?

I didn’t get the vaccine throughout my pregnancy and had a home birth which was incredible and my baby arrived safely. I chose not to be vaccinated as for 70% of my pregnancy the advice was not to get the vaccine, so I wasn’t about to rush into it in the last weeks just because I’d suddenly been told too. I waited until my baby was a few months old then caved in. I won’t be having the booster.

[quote Alisha32]@HacerSonarSusPasos and what if you had your baby vaccinated and your BABY WAS BORN STILLBORN

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You're not having your baby vaccinated. Up to you if you're happy to risk you and your unborn child's health 🤷🏻‍♀️

@RainbowDrops91 as far as I know the only case the vaccine is not advisable is if you have a documented allergy to a certain ingredient. And that's pretty rare. I'm honestly curioys what other health reasons there might be not to get vaccinated

I was pregnant earlier in the pandemic when the vaccine was being offered only to old people. I spent my pregnancy being very worried about catching Covid but thankfully did not. I would have accepted the vaccine in a heartbeat and have since been vaccinated. The WHO report that pregnancy women are at no higher risk of catching Covid but are at increased risk of serious illness including the need to be in intensive care and/or having a premature baby (some with very sad outcomes). Being pregnant is a worrisome time regardless but the risk of Covid and your worries of vaccines are valid worries. But please read the evidence and talk to a health professional and get vaccinated. Covid is so much more prevalent now than when I was unvaccinated and pregnant. Also other people are less careful in terms of social distancing and adhering to the rules on masks etc. You need to do all you can to protect yourself and your unborn baby.

[quote HacerSonarSusPasos]@RainbowDrops91 as far as I know the only case the vaccine is not advisable is if you have a documented allergy to a certain ingredient. And that's pretty rare. I'm honestly curioys what other health reasons there might be not to get vaccinated[/quote]
You're correct I had an extreme reaction to Moderna and Pfizer causing me to stay in hospital for a few months both times. My stamina has never gone back to normal since either :( Now im pregnant and boosters are being spoken of, the midwives told me to avoid it this time around. Scary stuff! Pretty much isolating at home all of the time now.

@Alisha32
Hi lovely,
I know you've had some heated responses on here
I'm 26 weeks preggo and had my 2nd covid jab when I was about 6 weeks and my booster on Sunday. All seems to be going well and baby is big and happy
At the same time I completely understand reluctance to get a comparatively new vaccine whilst pregnant and I don't think preggos initially being advised not to get it has helped anyone feel more comfortable with it.
At the end of the day though, it's your choice and you will make whatever choice you feel is best for your baby and for you.
You are not a bad mum if you choose not to get the vaccine and your not a good mum if you do! You're just trying to do what you think is best for your little one.

@RainbowDrops91 but that is extremely rare, and OP gave no indication that she might be in the same situation. Whereas, the risks associated with not getting the vaccine are exponentially higher

[quote HacerSonarSusPasos]@RainbowDrops91 but that is extremely rare, and OP gave no indication that she might be in the same situation. Whereas, the risks associated with not getting the vaccine are exponentially higher[/quote]
I don't understand what the problem is. I initially asked OP if she has any questions. I answered her question, I am unvaccinated and I am pregnant. What is the problem, what's wrong?

I'm not pregnant but recently have been speaking to a friend, who is an experienced intensive care nurse who's worked through the pandemic in a very big local hospital. She said one of the most awful things she's had to deal with in the last 2 years (of which there have obviously been many things) has been seeing multiple women in their 30s who have come in heavily pregnant, unable to breathe due to covid. They've then had to put them into an induced coma and deliver the babies by csection and the mums have not made it and never seen their babies. These were all pre the vaccination programme, the only ones since have been unvaccinated by choice. This struck me so much, I had no idea. I understand everyone's reasons for having or not having the vaccine is a personal choice and totally respect this, but after listening to her talk about this, if I was pregnant now I would 100% be having the vaccine.

@Missikat13 that is exactly what I spent my pregnancy worried about and wishing I could have the vaccine!

[quote Alisha32]@RainbowDrops91 honestly a lot of rude people on this thread just because I have made another thread they are getting triggered I can ask questions if I want and making me feel like I am a bad mother for not getting vaccinated I have concerns regardless either way [/quote]

Many people would argue that you are a bad mother if you chose not to be vaccinated and therefore put your baby at risk.

Of course you are a bad mother if you deliberately take on avoidable risks during pregnancy! We judge women who smoke and drink during pregnancy and for good reason! How is not getting the vaccine not comparable? Would you also say no to all the other vaccines indicated before or during pregnancy?

No because research, science and reports from hospitals all suggest that it it’s incredibly risky not to have it.

I caught covid 2 weeks ago at 37 weeks pregnant and am SO GRATEFUL I had the vaccine because my symptoms were incredibly mild. It could have been so much worse.

@Moon12345

I didn’t get the vaccine throughout my pregnancy and had a home birth which was incredible and my baby arrived safely. I chose not to be vaccinated as for 70% of my pregnancy the advice was not to get the vaccine, so I wasn’t about to rush into it in the last weeks just because I’d suddenly been told too. I waited until my baby was a few months old then caved in. I won’t be having the booster.

Agree completely. I’m frontline healthcare so was offered the vaccine very early on however I was told not to have it due to being pregnant. Then for it to suddenly change. I decided to wait until baby was a few months old to have it (I say decided, more like pressured). Vaccines are normally in testing for 10+ years before they reach the general public, not barely 10 months. I won’t be getting the booster either. It is a personal decision and people should respect that. It’s creating a dreadful, two-tier society.

@HacerSonarSusPasos

Of course you are a bad mother if you deliberately take on avoidable risks during pregnancy! We judge women who smoke and drink during pregnancy and for good reason! How is not getting the vaccine not comparable? Would you also say no to all the other vaccines indicated before or during pregnancy?

What an awful thing to say. Drinking and smoking is hardly comparable.

New medications/vaccines take so long usually to come to market because they have smaller teams and have to find funding for them. The large gaps in the steps of the procedure are often not because they are waiting 10 years to find out safety results but because they are waiting for funding or paperwork or staffing, trying to recruit volunteers, etc. to continue. Covid had huge staffing and access to way more resources so they didn't have to hang around between the stages.

www.immunology.org/coronavirus/connect-coronavirus-public-engagement-resources/how-covid19-vaccine-developed-fast

* Of course you are a bad mother if you deliberately take on avoidable risks during pregnancy!*

^I agree

For example:
'For instance, it took just under 16 weeks to recruit and enroll more than 43,000 volunteers for the final phases of testing Pfizer’s vaccine. When volunteer recruitment began for clinical trials of the rabies mRNA vaccine in 2013, it took 813 days to get 101 participants enrolled. Based on this comparison, that’s roughly 730 days — nearly two years — saved in recruiting alone.'

Those two years of 'development time' weren't being spent in safety studies or adjustments, they were twiddling thumbs waiting for enough volunteers to do trials.

I don’t think people are being rude.
They just don’t have the same opinion as you

@Alisha32 I'm a NICU nurse and a lot of mothers who are unvaccinated are coming in with covid. Many of them are severe, a few of the mums have ended up in itu following preterm delivery, on ECMO (the last ditch attempt to save them) and have died, leaving their preterm baby and families.
There is no evidence that the vaccine will harm you or your baby. Seeing first hand the devastation of a mum who doesn't even know she has given birth because she is so sick, then dying, is terrible, so vaccination is the best way to protect yourself and your baby.

and what if you had your baby vaccinated and your BABY WAS BORN STILLBORN

Your comment doesn't make sense. Stillborn babies would not be vaccinated.

There has been some really good research posted on here so far please have a read of it and if you are still unsure, please talk to your MW about your concerns.

Oh @han01uk I can't imagine how you cope with this. I have a close relative who works in ICU and has also nursed Mums who have no idea they've had the baby and have died. It's horrendous isn't it?

@Alisha32 - are you 32 (given your username)?

@RainbowDrops91 - is 91 your birth year? Which would make you 32.

You're both pregnant and unvaccinated....and 32....and mumsnetters.

@Alisha32 if you value your baby's health then get vaccinated. What are your concerns?

@Nat4392 drinking carries a small risk of fetal alcohol syndrome. We don't know the exact amounts are frequencies needed, but we know there is a correlation.

Not getting vaccinated puts you at higher risk to contract the disease, at which point you have a small risk of your baby dying or being born preterm. Again, we don't know what other factors are involved but we know this correlation exists beyond a doubt.

Choosing either or these behaviours puts the baby at a risk. They are both completely avoidable.

So how are they not comparable?

[quote OopsadayZ]**@Alisha32 - are you 32 (given your username)?

@RainbowDrops91 - is 91 your birth year? Which would make you 32.

You're both pregnant and unvaccinated....and 32....and mumsnetters.

@Alisha32 if you value your baby's health then get vaccinated. What are your concerns? [/quote]
1991 makes me 30 What's up with being on Mumsnet?