Minsters Sidecar Bumping Along - ttc graduates thread 4

[lucyrp]

Hey girls! I've gone ahead and created a follow up thread for us all. Let's hope we have some more ladies joining us from over on the other thread! ❤️

@vil10 I went off my friends' results which were more like 1 in 100,000 so I panicked. If I'm honest I would try not to bother about it unless you have less than 1 in 250 x

@vil10 try not to worry about the clear blue digital thing I’ve heard some people never get a 3+ but it doesn’t mean anything’s wrong and gone onto have healthy babies :) 🤞🏻 enjoy your weekend away!
@juno231 happy 2-3 girl!! How are you feeling? Do you have many symptoms? I don’t have a lot at the moment but don’t know if that’s a good thing or not!

Hey there lovely lot! Thought I’d sneak on like a peeping Tom from the other thread, currently head in the sand about the BFP still, so anxious about ringing the ivf clinic to cancel everything what we’ve worked so hard to get to but if this baby’s a sticky one it doesn’t matter as the journeys worth it 🥺👀

Did another test this morning to see if progession is there and it’s there on the cheap ones and on the FRER not quite a dye stealer though! stopped tempting and stuff like that, rang GP about my metformin they’ve advised me to stop taking it so I don’t know how I feel about it, has anyone else been on metformin before and was in same shoes?

@kaylsd that's interesting, I thought metformin was safe to take when pregnant? Is it worth getting a second opinion? With the near dye stealer so early on I'm still convinced you've got twins cooking in there! I'm good, minimal symptoms really - sore + full boobs and pulls/twinges. Very early days though! Will you book an early scan do you think? Has it sunk in yet?

@Sunbird24 yes the caffeine. Also the sugar can't be great. I won't drink diet versions either. But if you aren't drinking anything else with caffeine then you can afford to drink a bit.
@Vil10 I used to mostly do it pre lockdown, with him doing it a bit. But since lockdown he does it. 😁

Catching up... fatigue is still very much present this second trimester 🤦🏼‍♀️

Welcome @SWAttempting what a story. Wishing you a healthy pregnancy!

@Juno231 that saying of if you can find the baby you can feed the baby is so true 😆 I remember so many times in my sleep deprived state with DD waking up in a blind panic in the middle of the night feeling around the bed sheets thinking I'd lost her when she was sound asleep in the cot next to the bed 🤦🏼‍♀️. I can see why they use sleep deprivation as a form of torture

@whatwonder oh that would really get my back up. "Look at me and my super fertile body" grrrr! Is it just lack of sleep because you can't sleep? Super frustrating especially with a whinging man 😂

Yayyy @kaylsd 👋

@paintfairy I found sipping fizzy drinks helped with sickness and nausea too. I don't usually have them but I don't think I drank anything but for the first 12 weeks

I think they do weight it on age @whatwonder as @Kirky658 implied. Mine came back lower this time round than my previous pregnancy. I think 1 in 50 is the cut of point for NHS investigations. @DKDK123 will know as she had higher results which she met with her consultant about yesterday

@2020mission your DH is very brave complaining to the pregnant lady that HIS sleep is suffering 🤯

@Juno231 depending on how critical I am if they can tie my tubes while I'm under they will, if I'm too poorly I'll get it done at a later date. DH is also getting the snip as we 100% can't risk me accidently falling pregnant (which you know sods law wouldn't happen despite how hard we tried for this one!).
Don't feel silly for talking about your due date early, I used to calculate my due dates while on TWWs despite even not being pregnant 😂 Hooray for the 2-3weeks digi 🥳
On your NIPT question,yes I discovered I'm really lucky Scotland are currently trialling giving those who have high screenings a NIPT before the amnio so I didnt even need to pay for it! It's on a 3 year trial here at the moment to stop people with high results either putting themselves through the risk of miscarriage with the amnio or spending the rest of the pregnancy worring as she said the majority of people who get the 1st screening as high risk result don't end up having DS.

Did you ask the midwife about the mucus @bez91?

@bea14 how's the sickness today, are the tablets starting to help any?

@minster2012 got my gender one next Saturday. Time to find out if DS has been spookily right all along or if he's going to be devastated 🙈 How is your DS doing with the news is he asking lots of questions yet? I'm getting asked daily 'Is the baby grown bigger yet?' As he knows it can't come out till its bigger 🙄 Ouch on the sore nips, are you using nipple cream on them, there's a good one starts with an L but I can't remember the name, it's good for when breast feeding.

Welcome @swattempting scary about your heart failure and the FMH (I'd never heard of that before, but so glad your DS was ok and it's good that you managed to get pregnant so quickly to get #2 in. Sounds like the docs are all keeping a very close eye on you.

@Crazydoglady123 what a fright you must have gotten, glad it all seems to have settled now. If it reassures you a bit, I had similar with DS passing clots the size of my hand from 24 weeks it happened regularly but every time they checked my cervix was still closed and DS was perfectly happy. I managed to keep him in from 24 weeks till 35. So hopefully yours will stay put too for a while yet, tho yes the steroid injections sting like mother fucker and jags don't usually bother me! Tho the 1st one I got in my arm and the nurse doing the second one said no wonder it hurt like hell, these ones are supposed to be done in your thigh or butt cheek! 🙈 Frustrating making you wait to find out if you're staying or going, hope they don't make you wait much longer.

@whatwonder mine was 1 in 83, she said anything under 1 in 150 was considered high risk for my age group, I'm 37, I don't know about the other age categories. However I was also told (after the long wait for NIPT results) that the majority of people that get a high result don't go on to have a baby with DS so I'm guessing if yours is considered low in the first instance then you're pretty safe. The results for the test are just computer generated liklihood results based on your age, bloods and NT number, they're not actually diagnostic.

@paintfairy I found I was craving fizzy drinks too for quite a few weeks and I'm not usually a bit fan of fizzy drinks. Pepsi max and appetiser were my go to and made me feel less nauseous than eating food did tho the heartburn was terrible.

Welcome over @kaylsd don't worry we're pros at sticking our heads in the sand for the first few weeks on here 😂

I was like a zombie in work today, didn't sleep a wink last night as I was processing everything from my appointment and the reality of how dangerous this pregnancy is kinda hit me. I was fine the first time round with DS because well for a start no matter how much the doctors told me it was high risk I was blissfully naieve that all would be fine regardless, but also there was only me and DH to think about, if I died. This time round I have DS to think about and that was a very sobering thought, I spent last night wondering if I was being selfish in my quest for another child I could potentially leave the child I already have without a mother. 🙈 I think the bit that hit home was I knew I lost a lot of blood in theatre with DS but didn't find out the actual quantity till yesterday and it was 4.4l which meant nothing to me till I googled how much we have in our bodies and its typically only 5 litres......it was a very sobering wake up call knowing they're expecting that again obviously as fast as they were pumping it into me it was coming back out! There was me trying to persuade them to let me be awake during the section, no wonder they said no, shows you how blissfully unaware of how close I was to dying first time round I was to even ask that yesterday 😲 But I keep reminding myself it's the same surgeons working on me this time round, the best in the hospital, they remember my case from last time and have already had a practice run with DS so this time should be fine too 🤞 Time to go back to worrying about the baby instead of myself, gotta be worrying about something in pregnancy right 🤔😂

@DKDK123 gosh when you put it like that it is a sobering thought - if it helps a little bit pregnant women have up to 50% more blood so hopefully that was 4.4l out of 7.5? Still far from ideal though. How come you did bleed so much btw, is it random or bound to be messy next time as well? As for the gender scan, I'm banking on DS being right and you being forced to name her Emily!

@Juno231 what do you think to this hunny? The top one is from Sunday lunch when my Amazon delivery came and the bottom one is on a second wee of the day but very small as I forgot to save FMU today 🙈 do you think there could be more than one :o* insert face drop* 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'll reply in morning ladies just at in laws having a post work cuppa ❤️😘

@Juno231 I still don't fully understand why, it's something to do with how they access my uterus because the fibroids in the way they can't cut into it the way they normal would so they need to do it a different way that I think she said cuts into major vessels or something along those lines hence the major blood loss. I thought 1st time round was maybe just a bad luck one of those things that might not happen again but she said I will loose a lot of blood again this time round as the fibroid hasn't changed size or position and they still need to access baby awkwardly. Tho this time there's the additional risk of uterine rupture before I even get to theatre because the way they've had to cut it last time has left it very thin and vulnerable hence why a 3rd baby is a definite no no and I'll be getting monitored extremely closely for any signs of too much pressure on my uterus baby will have to come out right away. I jsut need to keep telling myself it will all be fine as this baby took too damn long to come along for it to be anything other than fine!

@bez91 I've always been pretty crap at sleeping tbh, have suffered with insomnia since early adolescence. I'm usually so tired in the evenings that I fall asleep okay, but then will only sleep for a couple of hours before waking up because I need a wee :P and then I can't fall back asleep.

@paintfairy I've also been drinking loads of fizzy drinks since about 6 weeks, and I usually don't touch them. I've found them really helpful at keeping the nausea at bay (combination of the sugar and the carbonation I reckon)

@DKDK123 thank you for your reply! I guess they have to word the letter in a way that gives them a caveat, but I found it super confusing if I'm honest. Just want someone to say "it's fine, don't worry" or "you should get further testing" and not feel like it's a weird grey zone. but maybe it IS just a weird grey zone? I don't know. your appointment sounds like it would have been pretty triggering, especially if you found out details (like blood volume lost) that you didn't know previously. do you feel like you would benefit from talking with someone who might be able to help you process that information, especially as you will be having another section under GA? Are those resources easily accessible in Scotland? Hope you're doing okay xx

@kaylsd how far are you? That's a very good line!!
Are you having an early scan?? When if so??
How are you feeling, symptoms wise?

Gosh @DKDK123 bless you, I can understand why you have been so worried, there's a lot to take in! The fact they know about it and have. A plan is great and closely monitoring you means a much more reduced risk of anything bad happening as they will be so careful and cautious with everything and anything.

Just a quick one from me tonight as feel wiped out and had a horrible heartburn day felt constantly sick because of it! Just drank over a pint of whole milk which has eased it and hopefully I will sleep ok tonight. Still on the sofa and dropped off after I'm a celeb and only woke at 2.30 for a wee. I woke myself up last night with a really loud snore- me and the cat shit ourselves before I realised it was me 🤣🤣 then laid laughing to myself about it. Think I'm going to stick my PJs on and get comfy as I feel sore and massive today 🤦🏽‍♀️ only 18wk tomorrow - this pregnancy is definitely going to take it out of me!! I feel/look about 35 weeks...! Feeling more movements too, so hopefully not long before other starts feeling them properly 💖💙

@kaylsd my friend that was on metformin for PCOS carried on taking it whilst she was pregnant. So I would look into that!

@Crazydoglady123 oh no!! What a traumatic couple of days for you 😢 how are things now? Tell her to stay snuggly and cooking in there!

@DKDK123 that sounds so scary but I'm glad you've had an appt and it sounds like a good plan in place!

33 weeks tomorrow which feels terrifying!
Baby is still swimming around like she's got no home, so not sure if she's ever going to be the right way round 😂

@Lexber call the GP and get yourself some omeprazole for the heart burn - I wish I'd done it months ago!! Been taking it a week and it's basically gone! I missed it for one night and the next day it was back to being terrible!

Thanks ladies I got home at 7pm! Thankfully the midwife I had on duty persuaded the doctors to let me go as I hadn't bled today and my DS came out with chicken pox last night (3rd time) but worst he's had it and has been asking all day when I'll be gone as he needs a cuddle 🥺 I've spent some time with him, had a shower and washed my hair, had a happy meal and packed a hospital bag just in case I end up back there! Also lined our neighbours up to be on standby to look after DS in the night if anything happens. Had a bit of an upset stomach though and haven't really eaten a lot so we'll see. Didn't realise how much blood must have gushed out last night as it was all over the bath mat too.

@Kirky658 oh bless the little love! Are the Vicks humidifiers still a thing for colds in babies these days? They used to work wonders for my son.

@Sunbird24 that'll fly by! Everything crossed for you 🤞

Congrats @kaylsd on your BFP!

@DKDK123 that's interesting to know re the clots! Makes you wonder where the hell it comes from!! Omg, could not imagine that needle in your arm! Since ivf I don't like other people injecting me, I'd rather do it myself haha.
I think re your pregnancy this time, your delivery team being prepared and knowing what they're dealing with must take a lot of risk away. Pregnancy is so worrying though and when you have a LO at home it feels so much worse (well, so I've found)

@blackcurrantqueen DS has discovered One Born Every Minute the last couple of days and has been binge watching that and wants her to come now 😂 How's your pregnancy going?

@kaylsd

Omg where have I been. How did I miss your BFP ?!💗

Sorry went AWOL yesterday! 🤦🏻‍♀️

I was WFH & then went out and spent about £2K on everything for #2 😣 I am now eating out the freezer for 10 months 😂

Please DO NOT yet my experience scare anyone! It is a 1 in 20,000 event! It is so rare! Yes it was scary but all I'll say is count the kicks count the kicks count the kicks (when you get that far!) if in doubt, go in! Don't feel like you're bothering them! Don't feel like you're an inconvenience! It saved LO life!

How are you getting on @Crazydoglady123

How are you feeling @Juno231 - feeling real yet??

Welcome to Tuesday all.... I am already exhausted and it's not even 0730 😣

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@juno231 @blackcurrantqueen I’m going to try ring the doctors this morning for a second opinion because it doesn’t really sit well with me on the same reasons what’s been mentioned that I got informed it was safe to take even if I was pregnant 🤔 thanks ladies!
@DKDK123 I find it such a comfort being in the sand with it all because I’m so scared of the what ifs after nursing ladies preciously when I worked on Gynae for a year and half! Sometimes knowledge is not the key for this kind of thing cause I always think the worst 🙈
@lexber I’m not too sure how accurate my apps are but Flo says I’m 4 weeks 4 days based on my LMP but I ovulated on 20/11 but my BBT didn’t rise until 2 days after, so could be 4 weeks 2 days? I’ve got a early scan booked on new eyes Eve 🥺🤞🏻 I’m just scared because I don’t have any symptoms other than these tests
@crazydoglady123 thank you :D

@lucyrp my BFP is a rollercoaster, basically trying since august 2020, December 2020 my cycle disappeared and GP fobbed me off for months did a private scan showed PCOS, got referred to Gynae and given metformin which brought my cycle back after 117 days / 92 days ect, meanwhilst DH did SAs as per Gynae request, first sample boarderline, second sample terrible, got referred to urology who basically said he has a growth what can’t be operated on unless he has a full vasectomy and he has a varicocele chance of pregnancy natural is next to non and said go for IVF then come back to me and have the surgery, Gynae referred us to IVF for male factor infertility, got rejected as we wasn’t trying two years, contested it with support of urologist letter explaining my DH infertility needing a vasectomy and to prioritise our case before he gets worse, got re accepted and first AFC/AMH tests on 14/12 and consultant review 20/12 then found out at weekend im pregnant 🥺 whilst starting my new job this Monday and breathe I don’t have symptoms other than strong tests, I’ve had odd cramps here n there but not consistent or frequent and needing toilet more that’s about it

@SWAttempting whoa whoa whoa - what did you buy that you didn't already have with #1? Although with #1 being so little you'll need a new fancy pram at the very least! Tell us all 😁, I can't wait to start getting stuff. I'm good, I honestly wake up in such a good mood ATM just grateful I've made it another day.

Whose bum was bleeding yesterday? I've joined that club now lol. Constipation has been getting gradually worse the last three days and today I bled a fair bit. Time to get on the prunes! I think I have a can in the cupboard leftover from my laparoscopy this spring.

@kaylsd probably easiest to go by bbt ovulation until you've had a dating scan? But I'm saying that selfishly as I'm 4+2 today (I think lol) so we'd be stat twins!

@Minster2012 did you survive the kids birthday party? Is it normal to have one on a work night btw?

@Juno231 that was me! Bit more normal today though so thinking a reaction to something I ate rather than the progesterone

@kaylsd I’m 4+1 based on LMP but my LH surge was 20/11 and my 5 day-er was transferred on 26/11, which calculates out as 4+3.

@Juno231

We ended up with a Bugaboo Donkey Duo.

Then... we stood having a debate over if we get the car seat and isofix base for the donkey for #2 or do we go to the Joie Spin isize straight away. LO was out of his travel system car seat within 6 months because of his length! So we went for another Joie Spin which is birth to 3/4 depending on height and weight.

We've also spent a good month debating another nursery set OR LO into a single bed. But I don't feel comfortable with LO in a single bed at 2 years old... he is already out of his cot because he can climb over the side at 13 months!! He is actually currently in with us while the second largest room gets redecorated and sorted... and his old room is now my office!
Anyway....
We can't fit a single bed, draws and wardrobes into that room so we've had to go for 2 nursery sets which will last to 3/4 again!

We had footmuffs and other bits thrown in but my gosh it took ages of back and forth with positives and negatives to finally make decision!!

🤦🏻‍♀️

@Juno231 I survived the party & yeah for kids it doesn't really matter what day especially for Dec but it started at 3.45 which was an star for ppl picking up their kids from school &g ping straight on. DS & I went onto their house after so got back home at 9 hence late start this morning

Loving the drink & BF chat, all my foreman's were told drinking whilst actually breastfeeding best but essentially it doesn't matter. I'm with @Kate105 I'll be partaking 😂

Cold & rainy to type so brrrrr

@Minster2012 weather is horrible isn't it. I've got 3 outside visits today 😭 leaving it to the last minute before I leave! Children's parties are more exhausting for adults than them I think 😩

I've still not bought a single thing for baby (almost 18 weeks) and definitely not planning on spending 2k, we have a bit of stuff from DD. And if another girl we're quids in 😆 @blackcurrantqueen have you relented and bought anything yet? I know you said a few weeks ago you hadn't but 33 weeks today 🙈

@whatwonder @Kirky658 ohh okay
makes sense!! I suppose I'll just wait and see until I get there🤞🏼

@kaylsd im convinced you have twins in there with an frer like that at only 4 weeks!!

@paintfairy that's so good🤣 I literally do all the cooking, OH sometimes does breakfast on weekends but I do tea all the time!

@DKDK123 wow, they really are sobering thoughts!! I don't blame you for being so worried, thst is so much info to take in!! And I can imagine it being very scary them telling you the amount of blood lost last time! But I'm so glad they have the best surgeons around and the ones who know your case!!

@Lexber I haven't had much heartburn recently but I feel your pain!! So happy you're feeling more movements, what a lovely feeling thst must be!!

@Crazydoglady123 oh I bet you're so happy to be home!! Now you rest and take care of yourself and baby!!

@kaylsd don't worry, I don't have many symptoms either, sore boobs every now and then, but they aren't full or swollen, cramps and twinges every now and then a bit of constipation but other than that I'm fine!

I really hope I get to buy things for this little cashew🤞🏼 I didn't end up doing the weeks digi this morning, I mean I don't know why I'm so worried, I feel fine, no bad cramps, no bleeding, I got a dye stealer, so I'm telling myself everything is fine, it's just the time it takes for the weeks to come up on the test feels like it's ages and if it was to say 2-3 again I know my stomach would just drop!

@blackcurrantqueen they prescribed me some gaviscon weeks ago but I can't take it anymore it makes me sick and tastes like soap so I've been eating my way through rennies - I didn't realise they could give anything else? I will give them a ring! Thank you!!

@SWAttempting we looked at the bugaboo donkey but personally I didn't go for the side by side chair as we will need double throughout so went for the Icandy twin instead, I had an Icandy 11 years ago with DD and LOVED it so much so it was the first one I thought about!
I went 2nd hand though as refused to pay £2k for it, I'm tight haha got a massive bargain on EBay everything £500! 👍🏼 I was so happy to get sweet pea as I wanted that with Dd but her dad whos a knob wouldn't let me and we had black Jack instead whereas OH loved the colours so we got it 💖💙

It's so hard looking for pushchairs especially if you need it for 2, I didn't realise how limited you became!