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Pregnant after miscarriage part 4, TTC graduates

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BecsterG · 26/10/2020 12:26

Hi Ladies, I love that there's so much chat we need a part 4!

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Leok83 · 10/12/2020 19:28

@SunnySideUp2020 @TerribleImagination @scrumdiddly123 gorgeous bumps ladies!!

Thanks for the list @SunnySideUp2020!

@ChampooPapi hope your little girls are doing well!! I imagine you must have your hands very full at the moment!!

@Fizzl roll on Monday and the second trimester for you!! Don't worry about your diet now..anything that makes you feel better or at least not worse is good in my eyes!!

Whiffle77 · 11/12/2020 16:38

Sorry, been very awol! Still struggling with little man, he still isn't gaining enough weight. We have been purely bottle feeding him expressed milk so we know he is getting the right amount. I just don't understand it. So we are back at the hospital for more tests next week. Im so worried about him, and really frustrated that we haven't had any positive news yet. He's such a lovely little boy but I am so worried all the time that I am not getting the time to enjoy him as much as I'd like, its really breaking my heart.

Lovely bump pictures everyone, its exciting to see everyone getting so far along!! 💞 hope all those with little ones are doing well too

Ejb86 · 11/12/2020 19:59

@Whiffle77 does he have any other symptoms other than not gaining? Is he having plenty of wet and dirty nappies?

You're doing everything you can for him lovely. You'll get him sorted. Xx

Whiffle77 · 11/12/2020 20:24

Not as far as I know @Ejb86, he seems happy and alert but I don't have much to compare it too! We have been inundated with midwives and they all seem happy with him. Plenty of wet and dirty nappies. He has started spitting up more since we have been on bottles, but again no one seems bothered about that.
Thanks, I hope so - just so worrying and feels like its never ending xx

Leok83 · 11/12/2020 21:28

Aw no @Whiffle77 so sorry to hear you are having a tough time. Hopefully it's nothing to be worried about.xx

scrumdiddly123 · 12/12/2020 09:26

Sorry you’re having a tough time @Whiffle77, have they given you any indication as to why he might not be gaining? I hope it’s nothing to worry about xx
@MilsCookie how are your girls getting on and how’s the expressing going now? Must be so hard for you bless you, really hope they’re doing well though!
Would love to hear how all the other babies are doing too! @ChampooPapi how is twin mum life? Hectic I imagine!
How are you feeling @TerribleImagination? So close for you now! You could have a baby in time for Xmas! So exciting x

scrumdiddly123 · 12/12/2020 09:29

@Fizzl wow you’re nearly 12 weeks already! That’s flown by (for me anyway 😂) hope it has for you too! Will be thinking of you on Monday xx

TerribleImagination · 12/12/2020 10:18

@scrumdiddly123 I’m feeling good thanks lovey! The sciatica has gotten sooo much better, so I’m not hobbling around anymore which is amaaaazing! So just the usual third trimester slow and tired to deal with, so not bad at all! We’re both very much hoping this little baby girl makes an appearance before Christmas! She’s still very low down and I keep getting period pains... but who knows! She’ll turn up when she turns up!

How are you doing lovey? x

scrumdiddly123 · 12/12/2020 10:30

@TerribleImagination ah that’s great news you’re feeling better! And sounds like she might be getting ready to make an appearance soon! My daughter was due 1st Jan and I was so hopeful she would arrive in time for Christmas but she came on 30th December in the end!
I’m good thank you, just manic with work and trying to get ready for Xmas! One more week til we break up and I have two weeks off so looking forward to a rest x

BecsterG · 13/12/2020 08:39

@TerribleImagination not long at all now. I had period type pains for a few weeks before I went into labour with Jude so this could mean she's getting ready. Would be exciting for her to arrive before Christmas.

I had awful sciatica too which eased in the last 4 weeks so pleased you don't have to hobble around now.

Need to catch up on the rest of the thread. I have missed so much.

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BecsterG · 13/12/2020 08:41

Sorry you're having a tough time @Whiffle77. I hope you get answers soon. Sounds like ours doing everything you can.

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TerribleImagination · 13/12/2020 21:59

Ah that’s ace you’ve got some decent time off over Christmas @BecsterG

@BecsterG Oh I’d love her to be here before Christmas! I’m not pinning anything on it mind... My friend who’s a midwife reckons I’ll be a couple of days early, but not much more. I think she’s doing her bit to manage my expectations haha. Any earlier than that would be a bonus!

BecsterG · 13/12/2020 22:06

@TerribleImagination ah I just seen you're not due until 10th Jan so I guess unlikely but you never know.

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SunnySideUp2020 · 14/12/2020 11:03

Maybe a nice xmas present @TerribleImagination 😉

@scrumdiddly123 how are you doing?
I feel like time is slowing down again!!!
It's my first and i find it sooooo long to cook that baby 😂

I started having some skin rashes recently with some itching from hell, my gums and nose have been bleeding daily (managed to have hygienist done last week at least), i feel like my stomach can't stretch any further and jokingly ask DH to pop a needle in to deflate a bit! Then there is the random back pains, the babg girl's dance when i try to sleep, the nose congestion at night and the overall massive lack of fitness and starting to feel like a small whale walking up the stairs....
But then....
I realise there is still 15 weeks of this. And i am nowhere near my biggest or most uncomfortable!
Guess i am not the pregnancy lover 😌
Also where is the promised glow????!!!!

Still amazed and so happy when i feel her move all day though ❤
Such a special feeling.

Rant over 😬

Fizzl · 14/12/2020 13:15

@scrumdiddly123 it does feel like it's gone quick to be fair!

@Whiffle77 sorry you're having a tough time 💐 I'm sure your little one will be thriving in no time

@TerribleImagination I was just going to say the same as @SunnySideUp2020 you could have a Christmas baby! I was due at the end of jan and came at the start so it's possible she may arrive before Christmas!

Scan went well today, they've now put me at 12+4 with a due date of 24/06/21 which matches my lmp! So baby seems slightly ahead as I know I didn't ovulate on day 14!

Anyway all looked well and the lady doing the scan didn't raise any concerns and said everything looked as it should for my dates. So I should feel a huge relief but it all still feels so surreal! I keep looking at the photo and can't quite believe that baby is inside me. I've also checked my notes since I got home and the NT measurement is 2.8mm - I stupidly googled what's 'normal' and this seems a little high to me? Something new for me to worry about now! I've had my bloods taken so will see what the results say 😬

SunnySideUp2020 · 14/12/2020 13:44

Ahh glad to hear your scan went well!
2.8 is a bit high i think too (from my non medical background!) but if she didn't have any concerns it's probably just one of those things.
And even if you still aren't sure you can always look into nipt.
I was also put forward to Match my lmp although ovulate on day 18-19 so like you it all works at the end (overgrown babies 😉)

SunnySideUp2020 · 14/12/2020 13:44

@Fizzl

TerribleImagination · 14/12/2020 14:33

@SunnySideUp2020 @Fizzl Ooh I’d love a Christmas baby! We’ll see what this baby girl has planned 😍

Great news about your scan @Fizzl! I’d say if they’ve said the measurement is fine, then try not to worry about it. Like you said too, you’ll get your blood test results back soon, which will give you your risk. I’m sure everything is fine with little one ❤️

Fizzl · 14/12/2020 14:35

Yeah my knowledge on this is based on google which is never great! I keep reading mixed things, some seem to say anything below 3.5 is low risk, other say anything above 2.5 and risk increases. My husband is very much of the opinion that if it was anything to be concerned about the sonographer would have given us the heads up and she didn't even mention it. I'm already contemplating the NIPT to put my mind at rest 😬 husband thinks waste of money at the minute. I only innocently googled out of interest and just assumed it would be well within the normal range 😒

SunnySideUp2020 · 14/12/2020 14:43

100% the sonographer would have flagged the NT if she suspected it wasn't normal @Fizzl
Don't google anymore! Wait for your letter.
I am sure it will be ok x

scrumdiddly123 · 14/12/2020 21:17

@Fizzl that’s great news! My EDD is also bang on my LMP when I didn’t ovulate until cd 18 so same as you and @SunnySideUp2020! Try not to worry about the NT, there are other markers they look for on the scan so if there was any concern the sonographer would 100% have said something. Fingers crossed your letter comes through quickly!

scrumdiddly123 · 14/12/2020 21:25

It certainly is a long time to cook a baby @sunnysideup2020! It’s still going quite fast for me as I’m so busy working and the weekend goes in a flash so I don’t even seem to notice the weeks going by which is good! I’ve said I’ll work up until 38 weeks which I’m dreading but just going to see how I go and how I feel nearer the time! I can’t eat anything without getting indigestion and usually heartburn in the evening. I have to go for a wee at least once a night and have just started having some pelvic pain which I’ve had in all my pregnancies and seems to start earlier each time 😩 going to see if the dr will refer me for some physio as that’s meant to be the best thing to keep on top of it!
Sorry you also aren’t feeling the pregnancy glow! But yes the little kicks and wriggles are amazing 🤩 my 5 year old felt her kick yesterday which was so cute! I still don’t believe there’s a real baby in there sometimes x

Leok83 · 15/12/2020 07:44

@Fizzl so glad to hear that your scan was good, try not to worry about the NT measurement. I'm sure they'd have flagged it if they were concerned. If you are concerned though the NIPT would definitely be worth it for piece of mind I'd say.

ChampooPapi · 15/12/2020 10:04

@Fizzl for what it's worth I don't think half the time the NHS screening is worth the paper it's written on! My nucal fold was bigger then yours , but I'd had the nipt test that is actually testing the babies DNA so I wasn't concerned. There are usually physical markers as well if they are worried so you honestly won't have anything to worry about. However the NHS test is not very accurate (79 percent) for the three screenings, however the nipt is 99 percent for down syndrome and 90 percent for the other two and it's actually testing their DNA rather then making an educated guess essentially like the NHS screening.

A good educated guess yes, but still a guess. It creates far more false positives then negatives so at least you can factor that into the 79% accuracy. It is dependant on your decision about down syndrome really as however it's packaged that is what the nipt is most accurate for and testing for.

The NHS test are only testing your blood for Papp A, which is an indicator for anomalies, but at no point are they actually testing the baby or babies inside you.

Very rarly happens but women who are given some ridiculous low odds, like 1 in a hundred thousand, will go on to birth a baby with downsydrome, and visa versa, a baby given a high chance, 1/20 for instance, goes on to have a baby without.

It's worth though remembering the nipt is not diagnostic, only amio or CVS are.

But there is very little room for false negatives and as far as I know the nipt does not give false positives.

It's expensive and 9 times out of ten unnnecesary, but for me personally with the twin factor I didn't want to spend my whole pregnancy worrying about something that would be an absolute life changing thing for my family. I wouldn't have continued with my pregnancy because of my other children and the impact disability would have had on them.

I didn't do the test for my single pregnancies as I was willing to trust in the system of the NHS more as well as them being my first two children so I could except a more high needs child potentially.

It should be the NHS test and they were going to roll it out before covid because it is so much more accurate, especially combined with the Papp a test and physical anomaly scan at 20 weeks.

Obviously there is controversy surrounding the harmony/nipt/panorama. Sally Phillips made a documentary on BBC called 'a world without downsydrome'. An interesting watch, though her own son with down syndrome has few physical problems and is high functioning on the spectrum of down syndrome itself.

Hope that information helps. If only the nipt was free!

Your results will be low risk I can tell you that now because the nucal fold is below their high risk category and your age.

It's about whether you want a more accurate result to go off and how your anxiety will be effected during the next 6 months. Mine would of been off the scale so I needed to do it for me. But it's a very personal decision, only you know how much you'll dwell on these things.

Fizzl · 15/12/2020 19:48

Ah thanks for your reassurances everyone 🥰

Really useful info @ChampooPapi thank you! I'm a huge worrier so I think I'm going to have to do the nipt for peace of mind. It is expensive but we can afford it so that's not an issue, I think the initial reluctance was more that we didn't want to waste the money unnecessarily but now I don't think it will be unnecessary if it stops me worrying. I think even if my results from the nhs come back as low risk they're not going to be as low as I'd like! I'll wait and see but my gut instinct is saying go with the nipt. Thanks everyone!

How are your twins getting on @ChampooPapi?

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