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November 2020 Babies - thread 2

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EssentialHummus · 16/03/2020 11:03

Carrying on our discussion and hopefully having less of the nausea, morning sickness and sore boobs as the thread progresses!

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BuffaloCauliflower · 29/03/2020 10:08

Feeling really anxious about everything that’s going on and praying it’s over by November but fear it won’t be. Also worried as I had an early loss before, worried about MMC at 12 week scan and not being able to have DH with me cause of all of this.
Debating having an early scan at 8-9 weeks so hopefully he could come, but I know there’s still a couple of percent chance of a loss by 12 weeks even if you see a heartbeat before and not sure if it’s setting me up for a false security.
Really struggling with not being able to see my mum and best friend (who’s also pregnant) this isn’t how pregnancy was meant to be 😢

Sakura54 · 29/03/2020 10:49

I think it’s sad that we have to go to scans alone, but unless told otherwise, we should call to double check nearer to the time. It’s not the end of the world being alone though...what’s more horrible is if our partners have to leave us straight after birth, which is the case atm with new births. Really hoping that won’t be the case with us!

Pippop21 · 29/03/2020 10:51

@BuffaloCauliflower i feel the same, today i dont even feel pregnant, ive also had a previous loss one at 12+5 weeks and one last month at 5weeks and in not preg again so completely bricking it! I had period pains last week but no cramps since and i dont know if thats a good or a bad thing 😭 not really any morning sickness and my nipples are tender but the more i poke them the more i keep thinking im imagining it! Im not tired as such either...yawning a bit more and thats about it! I have however booked a scan for when im 8 weeks which will be on the 16th april tbh in tryinf to stay off all these forums and not even think about it too much! Xx

ParisInTheSpringtime · 29/03/2020 11:06

There’s a good article about the complete lack of maternity care at the moment in the Times this morning.

BuffaloCauliflower · 29/03/2020 11:46

@ParisInTheSpringtime could you share/copy paste? Times is behind a firewall

BuffaloCauliflower · 29/03/2020 11:47

*paywall! Hopefully no fire!

ParisInTheSpringtime · 29/03/2020 11:51

Hundreds of thousands of pregnant women face a crisis as maternity and abortion services shut their doors because of the coronavirus outbreak.

One MP this weekend warned that pregnant women were being treated like “second-class citizens” with the closure of NHS services and a lack of government guidance for those in need of urgent care.

The NHS faces a severe shortage of midwives with the number of unstaffed positions doubling to one in five since the virus arrived in Britain. A fifth (22%) of senior midwives said their local maternity units had shut indefinitely because of staff self-isolating or being deployed elsewhere.

In several hospitals, pregnant women have been told they are not allowed to have their partner or family present for support before or after giving birth.

St George’s Hospital in Tooting, south London, imposed a ban to try to halt the spread of the virus last week, issuing guidance that states: “No one, not even the partner, will be admitted to the antenatal or postnatal wards to minimise risk to babies, mothers and staff.” Women have also been told to attend ultrasound scans alone.

A majority (78%) of staff polled by the Royal College of Midwives last week reported that routine face-to-face antenatal and postnatal appointments had ended.

The closure of birth centres and midwifery units comes as Edward Morris, president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, warned that abortion services were on the “brink of collapse”, with women trying to buy illegal pills online.

By law, women ending a pregnancy early must take a pill at a clinic under the supervision of two doctors. Last week the Department of Health issued and then withdrew guidance suspending those rules. The change would have allowed women to have medication sent to their homes after a consultation by phone or online.

Morris is one of 50 experts who today call on Matt Hancock, the health secretary, to reverse the decision. “As the pandemic is predicted to reach its peak, at least 44,000 women will have to leave their homes needlessly to access early medical abortion care with . . . clinic closures forcing them to travel long distances across the country, exposing themselves and others to the virus,” they state in a letter to The Sunday Times.

There are about 700,000 births a year and 200,000 abortions, suggesting that 234,000 women could be affected in the next 13 weeks.

The British Pregnancy Advice Service, the largest provider of NHS abortions, said it had closed 20 clinics and cancelled 1,120 appointments due last week.

BPAS also warned of devastating consequences for girls and young women who have not informed their parents that they are pregnant — and those in abusive relationships who could become victims of forced pregnancies.

As the number of UK coronavirus deaths reached 1,019, or one death every six minutes:

● Britain’s most senior midwife called on maternity services to be ringfenced during the crisis to ensure women get “safe care”

● World on Web, a service for women in countries where there is no legal access to medical abortion, said that it was opening its abortion pill service to all UK women for the first time

● West Suffolk Hospital, which is in Hancock’s own constituency, became one of 15 NHS trusts to ask the abortion charity, Marie Stopes, with help delivering services

● Eleven midwife-led units, for women with low-risk pregnancies, said they had been closed to provide extra facilities to treat Covid-19 patients.

Last night, Gill Walton, chief executive of the Royal College of Midwives, said: “While other areas of the health service can postpone and cancel procedures, there is still an ongoing need for maternity services. Women are still pregnant, still having babies, and they need the care and support of properly resourced maternity services.

“We have to ensure that midwives and maternity support workers are ringfenced from any redeployment to ensure that women continue to receive safe care.”

Stella Creasy, the MP for Walthamstow in London, said: “Women are being treated as second class citizens and left in the lurch.” She added: “The idea that we can simply forget about women’s healthcare needs for the duration of this crisis has to end now.”

Razmataz92 · 29/03/2020 12:34

Hi, I think I’m about 5 weeks pregnant and hoping to get some outlet for my anxiety on here!

I have a little girl already but my memory of pregnancy has gone, all I know is that between 6-14 weeks pregnant I felt like I was dying with nausea and I lost a lot of weight. I’m driving myself a bit crazy because I feel very normal right now and all cramping has stopped. The only thing I’m experiencing is night sweats and the very occasional wave of nausea, which could almost be imagined. Have booked a very early scan for 6+4 so just counting down the days until then.

Hope everyone else is keeping happy and sane.

BuffaloCauliflower · 29/03/2020 12:37

Thanks. Exactly what I’ve been thinking. Closing midwife lead units is really not on

KatieGlo · 29/03/2020 12:45

So, where are women going to have their babies at the moment? They can't just close maternity units!! Angry

BuffaloCauliflower · 29/03/2020 12:52

Midwife lead units are what they’re closing. So everyone has to be in hospital. But it’s the same number of women having babies so who knows how that will work

AnxiousLady1 · 29/03/2020 13:00

They have closed maternity units in parts of Ireland too, and have set women up to give birth in hotels...Awful for those due to give birth in the next few weeks. We just need to hope that some semblance of normality will be in place by the time we are at that stage.

KatieGlo · 29/03/2020 13:01

Hopefully they'll roll out this Covid 19 testing for NHS staff as soon as possible, fingers crossed!

Luckyhuman2020 · 29/03/2020 13:04

Hi ladies, I got my two blood test results. My HCG is decreasing, i’ve miscarried.

Good luck to you all!

Addler · 29/03/2020 13:06

@Luckyhuman2020 I'm so so sorry Thanks

Hancock2020 · 29/03/2020 13:13

I'm feeling really lonely from a medical perspective, not even knowing when I'll see my midwife, not even having a number for her or my maternity ward in case I have questions. I just feel we've been left to fend for ourselves at probably our most vulnerable time.
I know the NHS is struggling, but how many pregnancy/birth complications will arise because the mums are being left alone to stress and worry for the next 9 months potentially causing issues both physically and mentally. 😔

FireflyGirl · 29/03/2020 13:16

The services are still there, pregnant women are still receiving care, but the NHS has had to change what they can offer, and how they offer it eg booking appointments by telephone, delaying blood tests, births in hospital instead of MLU.

It is worrying, and there's no right answer. The country just needs more nurses/midwives/NHS staff than there are available.

At the moment, all we can do is to follow the guidelines on social distancing and encourage everyone else to.

ParisInTheSpringtime · 29/03/2020 13:19

@Luckyhuman2020 so sorry for your loss x

wannabebump · 29/03/2020 13:20

@Luckyhuman2020 so sorry xx Thanks

HarrietM87 · 29/03/2020 13:24

@Hancock2020 just to reassure you, feeling stressed at the moment won’t affect your baby or cause birth complications, so no need to add to your stress by worrying about that! It’s really rubbish for us but at least by the time our babies are due the worst will hopefully be behind us, so we just need to focus on that.

FireflyGirl · 29/03/2020 13:26

@Hancock2020 you won't be left for 9 months, please don't worry.

Even in normal circumstances, unless you have a history or underlying health issues, GPs/midwives aren't really interested in you until halfway through the pregnancy. The only contact is the booking appointment, usually at 8-10 weeks, the 12 week scan, and the 16-18 week appointment to check for the heartbeat.

I think it's at least in part because even if something does go wrong with the pregnancy at that stage, medically there isn't anything they can do.

This isn't a CV issue - it's because of chronic underfunding, which is tolerated in part because it's 'only' women who are affected.

Hancock2020 · 29/03/2020 13:33

@HarrietM87 @FireflyGirl
Thank you both, I think being locked up is just contacting all these worrisome thoughts, if I were at work I think I'd be fine

FireflyGirl · 29/03/2020 13:40

It is hard, @Hancock2020, because we just don't know what the world is going to be like over the next 7-8 months.

But we need to remember that we will be the women who were pregnant during a global pandemic, and if we can do that, we can do anything!

Pink15 · 29/03/2020 13:42

@Luckyhuman2020 so sorry for your loss that's just horrible. You will get your little one soon I'm sure ThanksSmile

Pink15 · 29/03/2020 13:43

I'm feeling pretty sick today 🤢 just want to lie in bed all day