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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 22/06/2018 11:19

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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kacibass · 14/09/2018 18:50

Hi Everyone,
Im new here and am suffering from HG. im currently 9+3 weeks and have already had 2 hospital admittances. Im on Cyclizine and Ondansetron as well as perscription anti acids. Im really struggling. Whilst this was a planned pregnancy (1st pregnancy ended up resulting in a midcarriage) and this would be my first child, ive spoken to my husband about a termination due to me not coping.
I have a phobia of vomiting, and feeling sick which is just making everything a million times worse. wince my last admittance to hospital i have only vomited once (YEY) but still feel horrible all the time. im having to train myself to eat again as i didnt eat anything in nearly 4 weeks.
Now im spending most of my time in bed, feeling sorry for myself and wonderi g how the hell im going to make it through the rest of the pregnancy :(

Olivecake · 14/09/2018 19:57

kacibass welcome and so sorry to hear you’re feeling so bad. I could have written your exact post a couple of months ago. This is my second HG pregnancy too after my first resulted in MC. I also had horrible thoughts of terminations early on, despite this baby being so wanted. Around 10 weeks I really thought that I couldn’t get through another day, as well as numerous hospital admissions.
Lucinda will be able to provide you with the best tips on coping mechanisms but in the mean time I can tell you from being in your exact place so recently, it really does get better. I was totally bed bound and vomiting all day until around 18 weeks. I’m now 21 weeks and I feel like a different person. I can eat and drink (still have food aversions but minimal in comparison) and am even finally going back to work next week. My nausea and dizziness is nowhere near as bad as it was. It sounds cliche but it really will get better and this group is excellent for support in the mean time as we all really understand what it feels like, when so many people don’t seem to.

LucindaE · 14/09/2018 20:24

kakibass Welcome. Sorry you are suffering, and about your mc. Olivecake has given great advice already. As she says, don't despair, most people get a lot better between 14 and 20 weeks. Even the unlucky few who suffer throughout almost never are as ill later on as they are in the early weeks, when they tend to be bedbound, as you are. I am glad that you have got that combination of meds and those anti acids.Rest is the best thing. If you can't face a screen or the printed word, audio books and the radio are a good way to pass the time, and for those who can face a screen, Netflix. Some fluids that might help: Flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, the juice of tinned fruit, fizzy water, soda water, Dr Pepper, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, lemonade, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), Robinson's fruit drinks and sips of chocolate milkshake(maybe soya). Foods of a sort include cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes, nibbles of chips and crisps, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, baked potatoes and cheap ice cream.

Olivecake Happy news and great advice in your encouraging post. Mother Hen flaps and clucks and says 'Don't overdo it at work'. Is it a staggered return?
Waves to delia Birthdaykake, foodylicous SeaEagleFeather and everyone. Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

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kacibass · 14/09/2018 20:26

Thank you so much! i think more than anything it is the support i need. My husband has said himself that he cant support me like he wants as he has never been through it himself.
i cant even stand the smell of my cats as all i can smell us their cat breath :(
i have my first midwife appointment on Tuesday and am dreading actually going as im worried about puking all over the Drs surgery.
Ive been asked by friends about labour and giving birth....my response is always one ordeal at a time please. id actually kill fpr one day where i felt ok, hell id be happy for an hr at this point!

kacibass · 14/09/2018 20:31

Thank you so much. im managing to get by on Skips (like 20+ bags a day!!) and main but small meals of pasta bakes etc. The only drink i can keep down is ice cold orange and pineapple dilute juice. But im drinking enough of that to keep me out of hospital at the moment.
As for tv, im ok with things thatd havent got too much going on, Time Team is working a treat so far.
Im hoping im one of the ones that starts to improve from 14 weeks, but knowing my luck, most likely not!

SeaEagleFeather · 14/09/2018 20:34

kaci I thought of a termination too, though it'd taken six years of trying to get pregnant again. I think a lot of us do think of taking that route. HG is hell.

Different people find different ways of coping but in the end I kinda resigned myself to not being ok for the duration of the pregnancy and taking one day - one hour even, at the time. Kind of redefined normal and appreciated the small moments when I did feel better.

it does, it really does come to an end.

Perhaps it was immature of me, but tbh with the less - than - helpful doctors the thought of a badly-timed puke used to cheer me up ..... not that I ever did it, but HG is bad enough without having to put up with oblivious docs.

Olivecake · 14/09/2018 21:32

Lucinda definitely a staggered return, i get exhausted so easily! Just 2 hours a day at first and then we will take it from there. Not sure I will be back full time at all before I start maternity leave to be honest but I’m not too worried about that right now.

kacibass I think a lot of us have been sick in the doctors office and I’m sure it won’t be the first time it’s hapoened to them so don’t worry about that at all! I always carry little sick bags (I just use freezer bags) in my bag though just in case it comes when I’m out and about. I hardly ever had to use them though luckily but it helped give me peace of mind!

kacibass · 15/09/2018 13:47

Today so far is a better day. im feeling OK, im sat downstairs and i dont feel like im going to cry. i know this could all change in a second, so im enjoying it whilst it lasts. Kaci 1 - HG 0 today!

mustang27 · 15/09/2018 22:12

Oh I'm two wines in ladies so apologise for gate crashing but iv not checked you guys out for awhile.

Congrats to @ohiwa and @Boredoftryingusernames both your wee girls are beautiful and a 33 min active labour just wow!!!

I'm broody again please help I have two beautiful boys and two pregnancies that consisted of 36 weeks of vomit and misery what is wrong with me??? Minimustang2 is only 8.5 months old I really don't need another baby lol.

Also breastfeeding so my AF just returned last month but what I have noticed is the whole time I'm on I'm nauseated I don't know if this is new or if I'm just more sensitive to it all. Anyone that has noticed this let me know.

You are all doing amazing remember it's all worth it once you are holding that wee squidgy baby in your arms.

Hope you are doing well Mother hen xx

LucindaE · 16/09/2018 11:27

kakibass Never fear puking in the Dr's surgery- embarrasing but it makes your point if you can do it in front of a doctor. The advice about sick bags from others is sensible, though.
SeaEagleFeather I hope all well so far with your sister.
mustang27 Lovely to hear from you. I don't blame you for wanting a third. Babies are so adorable. I think mild nausea with the flow is very common, and have often been of the (non medically proven) view that Hyperemesis is part of a hormonal imbalance that causes migraines, diffiuclties with menstruation, and sometimes early miscarriage and for the very unlucky few (I was one and SeaEagleFeather another) nausea with the let down relfex.
I hope everyone is coping.

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kacibass · 16/09/2018 12:07

today has not gotten off to a great start. feeling horrible again and am feeling sorry for myself in bed again. i wish i cpuld just sleep through the whole thing :(

beanhunter · 16/09/2018 12:28

Hmm. So I don’t know whether I should be worried about this or not. Bowels not opened for 8 days. But I don’t have any pain or feel I need to go. Taking lactulose and docusate. Stopped the ondansetron a week ago so managing to drink but eating very little so perhaps there’s just nothing to come out? Do I need to worry?

Foreverblues · 16/09/2018 16:20

Bean hunter I would probably ask the GP? Didn’t want to RAR but not sure what advice I can offer. Hope you’re ok! Hi all, new to the thread. I don’t have HE so I hope you don’t mind me coming on for some support. I’m only about 6 weeks with my 2nd, only vomited 3 times but the 24 hour nausea is debilitating. Can’t eat a thing. Just been sipping water for past week and nibbling rich tea biscuits. GP has put me on cyclIzine so will see how that goes. I was sick with my first but it’s worse this time, probably just because I can’t get out of bed and have a 3 year old to deal with! We are meant to go on holiday a week on Wednesday and it’s quite a long flight - no idea what to do :(

kacibass · 16/09/2018 17:15

@foreverblues welcome! im on cycllzine and a cocktail of other drugs and its helped me loads. id also try an anti acid if your able to, this was the last thing we added to my medication and i swear that was the turning point for me. Im also finding Skips (crisps) and pasta are my "stay down" foods. Good luck!
I had a visit from 2 friends today too, with a care package of pj's, Skips, face masks etc to help me feel a little more like me. One of the things im struggling with most is how different i look having lost so much weight due to sickness. its great that they thpught of my mental health as well as my physical health. :)

Mammabear13 · 16/09/2018 21:12

Hey everyone, hope the quietness over the weekend means you're all doing ok.

Mustang I thought I recognised you. Baby bear 2 is about to turn 1 and I found I was broody from when he was about 6 months! Definitely couldn't face it then so held off but now around 5 weeks with number 3. Maybe this one I won't be sick all the way but I'm not holding out too much hope! Also with the nausea and periods, I wouldn't get it the whole time but 2-3 days...hormones have a lot to answer for!

beanhunter definitely worth a trip to the doctors. I wouldn't worry but 8 days is quite a while and bowels can be tricky so probably worth getting some advice in case it does become a problem.

kacibass sounds like you have some lovely friends looking after you and well deserved too I'd say. I hope they can keep on supporting you Smile

Hi foreverblue welcome to the thread. Have you been able to stomach anything other than rich tea biscuits? Not sure about advice for the flight...except if you're not the only adult, can you sleep through some of it and leave the 3 year old to be looked after by them..?

LucindaE · 16/09/2018 21:20

ForeverBlues Welcome. Being unable to eat and bedbound sounds like Hyperemesis to me. Some have it without frequent vomiting. I am glad you are on meds. As kacibass says, a good anti-acid can make a huge difference. How long have you been on the Cyzlizine? If it's more than a few days, it might be worth asking the GP for something new, or in addition, before going on holiday. Are you able to take in a fair bit of fluids? If not, it's a good idea to get kesostix either from a chemists or online to check for the early stages of dehydration. Some fluids that might help: Flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, the juice of tinned fruit, fizzy water, soda water, Dr Pepper, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, lemonade, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), Robinson's fruit drinks and sips of chocolate milkshake(maybe soya). Foods of a sort include cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes, nibbles of chips and crisps, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, baked potatoes and cheap ice cream.
beanhunter That does seem a long time and even though there's no discomfort, it is certainly a good idea to speak to the doctor to see what is advised.
kacibass Those friends bering gifts sounds like a real boost. Sorry you have gone back to feeling bad. Great advice for Foreverblues.

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LucindaE · 16/09/2018 21:22

Mamabear Cross posted. Waves...Good advice. Smile

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Foreverblues · 16/09/2018 22:33

Hi all, thanks for your lovely replies. I’ve been on cyclIzine since Friday morning but I only took 1 Fri and 1 yesterday. Felt like they were knocking me out. Took 2 today though, and after being on this forum I staggered downstairs and made myself weetabix with sugar in the afternoon. Since then I’ve managed a happy meal (my partner got my son one so I actually forced myself to eat one just to see if it worked lol) and some Heinz soup with a bread roll. The difference has literally been day and night. I feel so much better for managing to eat and keep it down. However I’m taking it with a pinch of salt because Wednesday I had a few small meals and then Thursday it was back with a vengeance. For the other 5 days it genuinely has been rich tea biscuits, water and the occasional cheese slice roll.

I think I am still struggling with fluids as wee is dark in morning and today it’s started to sting. I’ve been getting a few cramps which aren’t like the ones in last pregnancy so think I am heading badk to GP in morning. If I’m well enough to go away, which hopefully the cyclIzine will sort out, I will heed your advice on sleep! As much as I can anyway! The antacids, not sure what I can take? 3 year old breastfeeds so I was reluctant to take the cyclIzine in first place (I know it’s safe, just wanted to avoid anything if I could but couldn’t cope!)

kacibass · 16/09/2018 23:24

@foreverblues if your pee is starting to sting, you probs have a UTI which can also cause sickness. Id get a pee sample and head to the drs to find out.
As for the food and drink part, if you can handle water, try adding some juice as this will also give you some sugar etc which can help a little. Also if you only live off happymeals for a while...at least its something. Trust me when k say its easier to vomit something up than nothing, i hardly ate anything for nearly a month and was still managing to vomit (god knows how) but as soon as ive started eating again, having something to bring up is much better than trying to bring nothing up. all my stomach muscles can confirm this, im only just about able to walk fully upright again as i pulled so many muscles retching and heaving.

Foodylicious · 17/09/2018 07:04

Foreverblues hi!
Just to add that my 4 yr old still feeds and I'm taking Promethazine and the antacid Ranitidine.

Will try to find a link for you

Foodylicious · 17/09/2018 07:06

www.nhs.uk/medicines/ranitidine/

Basically only a tiny amount passes in to breastmilk and Ranitidine is used to treat reflux in babies too so there is no known concern re safety when Breast feeding

Hotchocolate86 · 17/09/2018 08:20

Hi foreverblues I was breastfeeding up to about 6 months pregnant and was on a cocktail of drugs including ranitidine. I found this fact sheet on pregnancy sickness support. It doesn’t cover ranitidine but helped when I was worried about the anti sickness I was taking.

www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/documents/resources/Hyperemesis_and_breastfeeding_fact_sheet_.pdf

Has anyone had experience with preeclampsia? I was in triage last night due to a headache I can’t shift, slightly blurry vision and floaters plus a massive increase in my nausea. Bad retching even with my anti sickness. Anyway they checked for preeclampsia and all my results came back as just under the threshold for preeclampsia. I’m unsure if that means I’m likely to develop it now or that it could just stay as it is.

Foreverblues · 17/09/2018 12:57

Thanks again all. Ahh yes I forgot about ranitidine my son actually used to be on that. So a bit of a strange experience today, got up feeling nauseous again. My dad took son to Nursery and I ate some breakfast and started getting ready to go to an open access clinic at the GP and give a urine sample. When I was brushing my teeth I made myself sick 😩 So after arguing with a taxi driver and a gp receptionist and being in tears (my hormones must be kicking in) got seen by GP. No sign of any infection but she also sent off. She said something about how I should only use cyclIzine for sickness not just nausea? Thoughts? She then said if I couldn’t keep any fluids down I should take the cyclIzine!? Feel confused. She’s signed me off work the rest of this week but said this is all normal at this stage of pregnancy. But I feel bloody awful. She said my ketones? Were -1 but I’d been sick just before I went in so that was normal and to push fluids? X

mustang27 · 17/09/2018 13:34

@Foreverblues please don't see that dr again she sounds really bloody insensitive no offence but I found women drs were the worst. That just get on with it it's normal mentality is so damaging and a lot of women who are desperate for their babies can't see anyway out, just feel broken and end up terminating because they can't cope. I read early on in my last pregnancy when I was feeling really low that they believe it's at least 1000 pregnancies a year terminated due to hg and poor care. I also think 24hr debilitating nausea where you struggle to care for yourself and your wee ones is definitely HG.

Check with your local maternity/midwife unit there may be a support unit within the hospital for pregnant women that will give you better advice.

 raging at the push fluids chat!!! Il push fluids down her .

Hi @Mammabear13 Wow you are going to have your hands full 😍😍. I won't have a third I don't think there is too much would need to change for us. Sad about it but il just keep reminding myself of the constant poking, prodding and a&e trips for fluids maybe that will keep broodiness at bay lol.

Foodylicious · 17/09/2018 13:47

Sorry you have had such a shit start to your day Foreverblues

There is plenty of evidence out there to support that taking medication earlier in hg and taking it regularly, likely reduces the severity of it and the length of time sufferers experience the worst of it.

If you see that gp again, just take your prescription and run.
Ignore anything else she has to say that sounds less than helpful, supportive or against what you hear on here or the pregnancy sickness support network.

Please do treat your nausea. And rest as much as you can
Glad you have the week off