Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Just a bit of advice re meds ladies...

Anyone been prescribed stematil and if so did it work? Just been on the phone to the doc and that’s what they have suggested. I need to do something. Feeling so low

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@SleepyBadger yes I have them at the minute, they don't do much on their own for me but I am on 3 different meds. All 3 are slightly working i.e some days are better than others

Shehz ok don't panic. Did they say what centile that was on? You might have GD but baby might just be big. You won't need a c section I'm sure. Also remember that scans have a 30% error margin.
Sending hugs to you. Will keep everything crossed you don't have GD.

Thanks @bitzy12 I’ve had them before in first preg but that was over 4 years ago and can’t remember if they made me feel any better in the end!

I’m supposed to be travelling to London tomorrow and totally dreading it. How does everybody cope with having to travel? I’m learning to drive at the moment too but my instructor took one look at me sick bag in hand and sent me back inside! 😔 I feel so useless! Not being able to look after my kids today has made me feel like a totally shit mum.

Hope everyone else finds something that offers relief soon. With my previous Pregs the sickness stopped about 25 weeks so have a loooong way to go!

Hi @Shehz21 I know it’s hard not to worry but try and relax as pp said there’s always an error percentage for growth scans it’s just an estimate. My boy was 6lb plus at 34 weeks by 40+4 he came out at an eye watering 9lb 8 but he was just a big baby. I didn’t develop GD and I didn’t need a c section 👍. Hope the GTT goes ok x

justtheonethen SleepyBadger
Thanks ladies. I guess with all the pregnancy hormones, i just panicked really bad and kept crying my heart out until DH got back home from work.
I don't even know why I am so scared, I guess I don't really know what to expect as a FTM to be.

SleepyBadger Thank you so much.Your post really did make me feel heaps better.
I really needed the reassurance that despite expecting a big baby, I won't be forced into having a C sec. Not that I have anything against it but I was really hoping for a relaxed waterbirth.
Well end day whatever gets baby here safely.

justtheonethen they didn't say what centile but lemme check in the red book, maybe they jotted it down. Thanks so much love big hugs.
I really really do not want to go through the torture of this GTT again 😭

I just wanted to share with anyone suffering - and if you didn't know - that Robinson's do some amazing juice flavours. Robinson's fruit creations they are called. I've just drank half a cup which is the most I've drank today. Not too strong but really tastes nice, especially if you have a dry mouth.

I can't think what flavour I've tried and no offence but I can't be bothered to get up and have a look lol. But they all look nice x

Shehz the gtt was shit, plan something nice for afterwards? Massive hugs. It's all so unfair after all you've been through already

justtheonethen Yeah will try to
You have your growth scan on Thursday yourself.
Argh hope we have good news on Thursday
I found this in my notes. Is this normal??

sleepybadger I tried stemetil and it didn't do much for me, but have read that it helps some people. Good luck traveling tomorrow, currently no way I could so really feel for you. I've given up and accepted I need to just stay in bed. Have massive mum guilt too as not up to doing much at all with my little girl.

Shehz I have had several friends that were told their babies were going to be really big that have ended up around 8lb. One in particular stood her ground against an early induction and went on to have a perfectly 'normal' birth and 8lb 6oz baby.

Lost great news on the scan.

Lots of people feeling rubbish today (myself included), let's hope tomorrow will be a better day!

Ah so above 90th centile for weight. The Doppler is fine. Here's mine for comparison- the ones out of the lines they are worried about.

Yes- fingers crossed we have a good news all round day!

Above 90th centile isn't a problem by the way. Just means they would be bigger than 90 out of 100 babies. Fingers crossed it's just a chunky monkey.

GRR! For no reason, my PC just at my long, long message.
Sorry there is suffering all round, with OH's being unsympathetic,
friends not acting like friends, and scares too, besides everyone being ill.
Welcome to Fidgetsmumx . That does n ot sound like normal pregnancy sickness. You've had great advice already. Do get meds from the doctor, as others suggest. Also, do invest in some kesostix, available from any chemists, to help check for the early stages of dehydration. Other signs are dry lips and skin, blurry vision , a headache, and of course, scanty, dark urine. Here''s the list of fluids and what roughly passes for food, which has helped others. Flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, ice lollies, Elderflower Water, Lucozade, Fizzy Orange, Dr Pepper, Lemonade, Soda Water, for some, orange juice, sips of chocolate milkshake - maybe soya, ice cubes, tinned fruit, nibbles of crisps and chips, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream and slices of melon and mango. Also, recently, cornflakes and Robinsons fruit squashes have been suggested.
SleepyBadger Welcome. Fourth Hypermesis pregnancy? You are brave! You are far too much of a veteran to need advice from a one time sufferer like me. What meds helped last time? I'm glad OH takes care of the LO's, sorry he doesn't really know how ill you feel. You would think he would by now, but there's men for you.
Baubles I am so glad all is well. Sorry OH was insensitive. Of course, you were worried about the baby with bleeding.
Jo0niper How are things?
Bored Much sympathy over feeling rubbish.
Shehz Cyber hugs. Great advice from justtheone and others about how there is a thirty per cent error margin That certainly is significant. justtheone How are things now, minus the steroids? I hope not too bad. Glad the scan went OK.
Endorra I hope meds you've now taken will kick in enough for you to get through the school play.
Scoobysue Sorry things have got so bad of late. It is very hard early on. Almost nobody suffers as much as they did in the early weeks, thank goodness.
Bitzy It is a very isolating experience. Gentle cyber pats to you, and everyone else having a horrible day.
Waves to Natsku and everyone.
Sorry if I've overlooked anyone. I'd better post this before it is swallowed up again.

sonypony I hope you are OK.
Someone was asking about bleeding from the throat. Anitidae gave good advice about it being normal with violent retching and only a worry if it's brown or in big quantities. I used to get that with really bad migraines, too, and it does look alarming.
Anitidae Oh dear, I hope your LO has stopped 'looking after you' now, as it sounded very basic treatment! He obviously is a great believer in the healing power of injections and plasters.

Lucinda have started to cut down steroids and I'm nauseous but not sick. It's manageable at the moment but so depressing to feel it again! How are you?

Thanks for the welcome @LucindaE! Wish none of us were here suffering though...I’m glad I found this thread. Think I’ve found my peeps here 🙌

The bit about being a veteran made me laugh...it would appear I am because the GP I spoke to on the phone didn’t even need to see me for an appointment he just wrote the prescription on the back of my HG history 🙈. I think I was on cyclazine last pg but this GP wanted to start with stematil and see how I react before trying anything stronger. I knew it would come again as soon as I got my BFP but I was secretly hoping it wouldn’t be so bad. When you are broody and TTC you forget all the difficult bits of being pg otherwise I’d definitely have stuck at 1 😂.

Anyone else get really annoyed when well meaning people tell you...oh try ginger! 🙄🤷🏻‍♀️ as if we literally haven’t tried everything under the sun to make ourselves feel better! Grrrrrr

Just got home from the school play. Grateful I made it there and back in one piece, even more grateful to sink into bed. Done and dusted. The ondansetron is starting to take effect again, thank goodness, and I can only pray that I'll go back to feeling as great as I did over the weekend.

LucindaE thanks for the welcome. bitzy12 sorry to hear about your friends. It's so difficult when people can't understand. I'm lucky i've got some lovely supportive friends but sleepybadger yes keeping listening to "try to eat just small amounts even if you don't feel like it, it really does help" I'm finding difficult. Like I haven't tried!! and "feeling like it" isn't the issue! But it's coming from caring and as I can barely leave the house not hearing it so much.

I got a gp appointment! When I said a&e said I HAD to be seen today suddenly I was allowed to go on the call back triage list. The dr was very helpful which was an enormous relief. I'm now on metoclopramide and it's like a miracle. It's taking me over an hour to slowly syringe the dose but once it's in I can eat and drink! and a huge bonus of relieving the nausea for a couple of hours too which is amazing. I've only got a 150ml bottle though so I'll have to go back next week. The leaflet says only to use it for 5 days - has anyone had it longer term? I can't see i'll be any better in 5 days unfortunately. Last time it got better about 25 weeks (currently 8) but it started earlier this time.

Hi Ladies,

I was wondering if I can join you. I'm 14 weeks now and have had really bad sickness the whole way through now. Midwife and hospital told me I've got HG. I'm pretty worried though and my gp gave me absolutely no reassurance this morning again. I've so far lost over 8kg from my pre-pregnancy weight. 1.5kg of this is in the last 2 weeks. (I'm 5'5 and a size 8-10 pre- pregnancy). In regards to medication she's told me if the prochlorperazine isn't working for me then to give cyclizine another try. Neither have been working for me. I'm still throwing up 10+ times a day and nauseous the rest of the time. I'm holding down the equivalent of about 1 small meal every couple of days at the moment the rest I'm throwing straight back up. Drinking as much water as I can to try to counteract what I'm throwing up but I feel absolutely awful. All the gp said to me was to try the cyclizine again if that doesn't work go back onto the prochlorperazine (which also isn't working) she said that there was no other medication that she would consider giving me. She got me to do a urine test and 'tested' it while I was in the room, by test I mean took a test stick out of its bottle of sticks, looked at the sample then binned the sample and the test stick without even opening the sample to put the test stick in. She told me everything was fine and that was it. Can someone please give me some advise because I'm really struggling to function. I feel absolutely terrible and I'm really really concerned about whether the baby is ok given the amount of sickness and the weight loss.

Sorry for the mega long post but not sure who else to turn to.

Sleepy anyone who gingers you deserves a poke in the eye.

Endora so glad you went to the play and the ondansetron is working again. Lots of us tried to wean off and relapsed badly. Repeat after me- you feel better as ondansetron is the nuts. You're not better.

Sony I've been on metoclopramide since week 9 and I'm 36 weeks now. It's a precaution against maternal muscle spasms rather than anything to do with the baby.

E20 welcome to the club no one wants to join! You need to demand better meds. I suggest ondansetron. Take this page to your gp and demand something effective. That's not good enough. on your behalf.

www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/treatments/ondansetron/

Baby will be fine, they are little parasites. It will be you that suffers. You must get better meds though. If you meet resistance then call the pregnancy sickness support helpline as they will help you get medication.

I was vigorously poked with a carrot - he unfortunately had a trip to the docs himself the other week and the doc looked down his throat using the tongue press stick. He’s all ‘open wide mama’ now. Unfortunately, a cartot on the gag reflex is is not what mama wants just now. Bless him, he’s a little sweetie.

Sympathies and strength to all. I’m off to bed!

Ana

E2017 that sounds ridiculous from your GP. Can someone pick up some urine sticks for you to check for ketones - if present I would bypass the GP and go to hospital. Great advice already given to you to call the Pregnancy Support people, or get someone to do it for you if you feel too awful to call yourself. My husband called for me and they had great advice over local hospitals - some you can self-refer for treatment with HG. I went to ours via A&E - I wasn't ketotic so didn't meet their criteria for fluids (frustratingly as was dehydrated), but they injected me with meds and started me on a combination. While you're being so sick I just don't think the oral meds have much chance to work. They can also help with getting your GP to listen to needing other meds. Hope you get something to help ASAP.

I seriously will lose the plot with the next ginger comment - esp as it makes me vomit to even smell it!!

Just remembered a tip from a relative who is a midwife in Australia. She says unfortunately lots of Drs underestimate how terrible pregnancy sickness can be. She recommended writing everything down for a couple of days - every vomit and retching episode, what you eat. She says it is easier to get your point across with it actually written down for them to see.x

@justtheonethen that literally made me LOL 😂 think they’d get more than a poke in the eye though! 👊

It’s just so hard trying to advocate for yourself when you feel so shit isn’t it? The doctor yesterday was so patronising he said ‘oh well you know if it’s getting to the stage where you can’t keep anything down and it’s interfering with daily activities then you need to come back but it’s completely normal and will be gone by 12 weeks!’ Through gritted teeth I told him that in the last 3 pregs it’s lasted until 25 weeks, I regularly have ketones in my urine and yes it is interfering with my daily life in so much that some days all I have the energy to do is crawl from the bed to the bathroom to puke and back again about 20 times a day! He didn’t say much after that! I’ve found in the past midwives and nurses at my docs have been understanding but the doctors themselves absolutely not! They just write the prescription and want rid of you. Think I might give the pregnancy sickness support line a call to try and get some advice.

Thanks ladies x