Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

I'm just dashing on to welcome FE1984. Sorry I missed this. You do need, as others say, to go for medical help asap. You will be dehydrated by now. Is your urine scanty or dark? Do you have a headache or blurry vision or dry mouth? They are all signs. Get an emergency medical appointment - sorry to sound bossy - and empahsize that you can't retain liquids and it has been going on for days. Meanwhile, try ice lollies, ice cubes, sips of Lucoazade, flat coke or soda water, or the juice of tinned fruit. Sorry OH is so oblivious. You are one of the unlucky ones who suffer from an extreme version of sickness and can't pull yourself together. Hopefully, the dr will prescribe anti emetics. There are several safe ones to choose from.
Orange Much sympathy. As others say, a tiny minority do suffer after birth. It's usually connected with breast feeding and the hormones to do with that, though being ill can make it worse. It is very unlikely to happen to you. Sorry, did you say that they had tried you with an anti acid besides those drugs? That can make all the difference.
Got to rush off - back very soon.

Admitted again with ketones at 4+. Looking forward to how good I'll feel after a few bags of fluid.

Sorry forgotten most of what I read but yes shehz we are twinning in the worst way!

Sending gentle hugs to all.

Total farce today at the maternity assessment unit where they denied me fluids as I wasn't showing any ketones on their sticks (was at home). Told me I probably wasn't reading my sticks right and general feeling was that they thought I was making up that I haven't eaten or drunk since Monday lunchtime. Ended up sobbing and begging them to retest urine using different sticks after 5 hours of vomming up the sips of water they kept making me have and they were really arsey but eventually agreed. They were much nicer when they found I have 4+ ketones and 1+ protein. Admitted me overnight. On fluids now and already feeling less suicidal.

Why won't they just believe me in the first place?

justtheonethen Poor old you. Sorry you had to be admitted, and latish on for it, too, but I hope you feel better for the fluids. I am so that they denied dehydration. They are meant to take it seriously if a pregnant woman hasn't kept down fluids for 24 hours. What if you had been so dehydrated you couldn't even shed tears, for goodness sake? I bet they were using ancient or defective sticks.
Natsku Poor little DD, she didn't mean it really, but it must have made you feel bad.
Orange Sorry I missed that you'd had ranitidine. I wonder if people have found that trying another anti acid helps, say omprazole? I may be snatching at straws, but worth a try, poor you with horribly disturbed nights. Only say, six or seven (including me) in eight years worth of threads, have suffered after birth.
FE1984 Concerned about you. Don't force yourself to keep going and end up being hospitalized by ambulance (as has has happened to a few on here).
Shehz21 Hugs over feeling you had to terminate before.
BATMAN I am glad OH helped. Sounds a reasonable arrangement. How is it going?
Mustang I hope LO is getting better.
Oklahoma How is the nausea?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Just I'm so sorry you have had to be admitted again and had such a terrible time at the hospital . I hope you feel a bit better soon with the IV fluids. I am literally willing for you to get better every day I feel so bad for you .

I thought I was a bit better but then had horrendous vomiting on Tuesday evening and then again this afternoon but I've eaten a bunch of stuff this evening which so far has stayed down so fingers crossed...sigh. Just when I think I'm having a good day I get all awful feeling-like-I'm-going-to-suffocate vomiting bouts which ruins it.

FE Hiya, it was me who suggested coming over here when I saw your other thread in the pregnancy section bless you. I'm so impressed you managed the journey, I would have cancelled it I think, I can't even leave my house atm never mind all that travelling and my vomiting is much less frequent now than yours bless you. I think you said you have a GP appt for tomorrow so hope that goes well and they can help try you on some medication . Oh and tell your OH to do some reading on HG maybe on the PSS website in the OP and start caring for you properly!!

FE sorry Oah isn’t being supportive, it takes them a while to understand what is going on sometimes. There is a really good section for partners of HG sufferers on the PSS website - send him to look at that. www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/information-for-carers/

Agree with the others FE direct your OH to the PSS website so he can understand better. Horrible to not get support from the person closest to you during this horrid time :( I don't think my OH really understands it but he's at least wise enough to keep his mouth shut!

So angry for you Just I want to give those nurses a stern talking to! How dare they not believe you?! Nobody wants to spend hours stuck to an IV for funsies, we only drag ourselves in when we know we really need the fluids.

I'm so wary when DD says negative things Lucinda as she has had such a tough time over the last few years with her dad so ended up being diagnosed with unspecified emotional disorder a year ago - she doesn't deal well with things not going to plan or upsetting things but she seems to have turned a corner now and has a more positive attitude.

@justtheonethen hope you feel better soon! Terrible behaviour from the MW's. Well done for standing your ground, a lot of women would have gone home even though they needed to be there

Hi all. Just popping in.
Orange this is my second hg pregnancy. My sister had it with both and so have I. This one is much worse. I've been off work 3 months and not showing much sign of going back. There are people who don't get it a second time. But as someone says, I think you're more prone. Mine started at 4 weeks this time.
Mustang hope mini is feeling better.
Love and hugs to all. I keep looking for Christmas baby news.
I have a consultant scan tomorrow. Dreading it as the last few days have been horrendous. Really ill if I stand or even sit up. Does ondansetron wear off? No chance of dr changing the dose, as he's been a pain about it. Not throwing up yet but the nausea is back, full force! 20 weeks on Sunday though. Never thought I'd get here!!!

Meadowhay Sometimes, the improvement starts with a few good days, then a bad day, then a few good days. I hope it is so with you.
seizethecuttlefish Congratulations on twenty weeks - halfway there! And with any luck at all, the worst half done. I believe there is a hormonal surge at twenty weeks which can cause problems: I hope it's that. Can they add anything to the Ondansetron - an anti acid or Cyclizine? Don't rush back to work, even if you do feel you have been off forever.
I hope everyone is coping. It is very hard in the festive season, when everybody else will be overeating.

FF, Orange and others, I hope not too bad? Quite worried about FF.
justtheonethen I hope is feeling a lot better. I am still about those nurses and their sticks! You must have felt like telling them to stick them up their ***!
Natsku That is very upsetting. There is the comfort that children are startlngly resiliant - much more so than adults.

justtheonethen Read your post with so much indignation! Horrid horrid situation you have had to face. Can't believe you had to end up in tears and begging for them to take you seriously! Bunch of unsympathetic unprofessional turds!!
Really hope you are feeling much better today.

just that's appalling. As if anyone rocks up to hospital to get an IV for the sheer and utter craic of it. I hope you're feeling better now.

FE I'm sorry your partner isn't being supportive - hopefully he'll realise how ill you are and how serious it can be. I've had a few "but it's only morning sickness" comments from relatives, and I've brought out the big guns of "Charlotte Bronte died of hyperemesis you know!"

Hope Mustang and mini are OK.

Natsku how old is your DD? I've been there with my girl and useless bloody fathers, though in hindsight I was lucky as he buggered off before he could do any lasting damage. Though I wouldn't be surprised if she goes through a consequent tricky stage in her teens. DH has raised her as his own since she was 3 though, I'm hoping that will cancel it out.

Can't remember if I posted this or not, but I got my sickline extended until mid January and my dosage of ondanestron upped to 3 a day. Haven't been so sick today and managed to do a few things around the house. I'm scared of eating though.

That's good lost hope the increased dosage helps.
DD is nearly 7. Her dad seems to have buggered off now, haven't heard from him since the day before court in August (he didn't bother turning up to court even) even though he's been given visitation every other Saturday. He's either buggered off or he's back in the pysch ward. Sometimes I wonder if he's dead but surely I'd have been contacted if so because DD is his next of kin.
I'll keep an eye out for a tricky stage in her teens too. OH has been raising her as his own as well, he's a great step-dad.

Hello everyone, I'm sorry to hear about unhelpful (horrid and mean) hospital visits and staff and about everyone's really bad HG. It really isn't fair.

I am just starting the seventh week (of pregnancy) and for the whole sixth week I could feel it starting, I felt wobbly, dizzy at intervals and nausea creeping up. This morning it is really starting. I think I also started around this time with my first pregnancy. Question - is seven weeks early for morning sickness? Also, my boobs are up at least half a size, rock hard and I need to wear a boob tube at night - (actually a tummy warmer by Kidney Karen). Did you also have this? I know mine just got worse towards the end of the first pregnancy, and I couldn't bear any clothes or even a quilt (in January). Barely pregnant and already quite some discomfort.

Fresh air and lots of rest to everyone.

Thanks for your lovely words everyone. Your indignation gave me the strength to stand up for yourself. Ended up staying in until last night and am feeling better for not being dehydrated.

They totally refused to let me try steroids though. The consultant said they NEVER give them in the third trimester but I should mention it to the consultant at my appointment next week as they may consider it then if I'm still feeling bad .

Can't remember everything I've read but harebell sorry it's starting up now. I was throwing up in my mouth and super queasy before I missed a period and on anti emetics by 6/7weeks and I think others on here got bad around the same time.
Boobs wise- oh my god. They were horrendous. Went up two sizes straight away, sooooooo painful that nothing could touch them and hurt so much when I walked that I used to cry! Lasted right up to the middle of the second trimester too. Now they are just big and randomly sore

7 weeks was when it started to get really bad for me Harebell and I realised it wasn't 'just' morning sickness. At 8 weeks I asked for medicine.

My boobs have not grown in size at all this pregnancy (they did last time) but they were definitely much much more sensitive in the first tri and a good part of the second.

Sorry they wouldn't let you try steroids just, sounds like they're not too sure what their guidelines are!

justtheone glad you are feeling better and that you were kept in and are rehydrated. It's really not fun at all.

I'm thinking positively on the boob pain - being a heifer helped me breastfeed well last time and I can only wish for the same again. There is however no positive spin I can put on the nausea/puking/retching though. Not weight loss, not safety, not health, nothing positive about it.

I hope everyone is managing today. Harebell Sympathies - I found the breasts went up by three cups sizes - and only came down two,but the soreness was only really bad in the first few weeks.
Goats That is so true, poor woman; it brought on the tuberculosis that had already killed off her sisters, and by the time she could eat again, it was too late. I have sometimes wondered; this must surely happen in poorer countries where medical treatment is unaffordable to this day...
Much sympathy to those who have impossible ex-OH's. You must be very resilient.

Goats Lucinda I always think if I was in a country without affordable access to healthcare I would have terminated if possible and if not then maybe I would die, I really don't know. It's very scary to think about it. I feel so blessed to be living here with our NHS, chronically underfunded as it is, without it I don't know what the hell I'd do!

Meadow Hehe, two meadows. My sorta 'morning sickness' started at 5 weeks and I soldiered on to work eating ginger biscuits and puking each morning before work and occasionally again in the evening but was still perfectly functionable the rest of the time. Then week 6 came and the projectile vomiting started with great difficulty at keeping anything down and after about 2 days of that I was started anti-emetics from the GP. Have now been on 3 different ones and once in hospital with IV fluids. Some of the GPs said it was very early for me to be so sick too but I can see from this thread that's not necessarily the case and it's not that unusual for women with HG. Also I've had the problem with my boobs since about 6 weeks as well, really sore and swelled up very quickly. I'm 14 weeks now and my boobs are not so sore but the nipples feel like they're being electrocuted if anything touches them so I have to be really careful with them and my boobs are practically falling out of my bras but I'm putting off buying new ones as long as possible to try and save money instead of having to be re-fitted every couple of months or so eek.

Just popped in yo see how mustang was doo g as I knew she was due soon. Fingers crossed it's not too long for you now!

Hello to the new ladies here. I'm sorry I didn't catch your names but whoever has trouble with food stuffs mango seems to be a good one to keep down. You also have a great support system here.

To everyone else I'm sorry to hear about relapses and nasty midwives/hospital workers. I feel so bad for you as I had nothing but niceness during my pregnancy. Maybe you should move here to the south.

Life with C is interesting. He's officially registered now and a pain in the ass. I had to start pumping b3cause he doesn't latch properly so he was causing me a lot of pain. He also has really bad wind because he gulps like a fish out of water. And he's a major wriggle bum. I swear he'll start crawling by 3 months at this rate. He's already been lifting his head up since week 2 and has started trying to roll over. I'm not ready for this.

I also finally admitted to DH about how suicidal I'd felt during the pregnancy. I've been pretty down lately but I felt like I was a failure for not being able to help C with his wind. He's doing much better now though and I'm feeling better after catching up on sleep.

Waves to Dead. I don't envy you. I wasn't able to breast feed but that sounds tough.
Mustang fingers crossed that baby decides to say hi soon.
Hare my sickness started at 4 weeks this time and 9 last time. I had my dates wrong (wacky periods and ovulating twice apparently can happen) and thought it was 6 weeks. Was really down when I found out my dates were wrong and I had 2 more weeks to add on. I don't think there is any logic to HG. It's the devil. My boobs are sadly unchanged. Was hoping for perk mammas and I have the same old spaniels ears lol.
Just are they nuts? No one wants to be in hospital! Glad some righteous indignation got you somewhere.
Lucinda I'm on ondansetron and cyclizine. I think the cyclizine is what makes me woozy. Omprezole too. I practically rattle. I'm coming round to the idea that I might be stuck in the house till baby comes. Fingers crossed that I manage to get out to take ds to Santa tomorrow and then my sisters on Christmas Day.
Waves to everyone else.

How is pumping going Dead? Hope C's wind doesn't get too bad - maybe being a wriggle bum gets rid of some of it . Hope you keep feeling better.

Hope you manage to get out and about seize

I am so glad I'm not cooking Christmas dinner this year, really don't think I could manage it. Instead I'm feeling blissfully unstressed because all I have left to do is decorate the gingerbread house and deliver some truffles I made today to my friend. Going to buy some non-alcoholic mojito drink to drink at Christmas so I can feel like I'm almost drinking something grown up

natsku I'm pumping by hand which I don't mind. But it means I can empty my boobs out when I need to rather than having C do it half heartedly and then not finish coz he falls asleep. It also means DH can feed him. And sadly him being a wriggle bum doesn't help his wind. I wish it did. We're on a mix of infacol and Dentinox colic drops right now to help him.

Hey Dead, Seize, Shehz, Goats, miserable, still pregnant and now both mini and I are full of a really bad flu bug it's fun times over here lol.

Glad the expressing is going ok Dead. Sorry to hear Christopher is struggling with wind it's bloody awful. Mini was like that just seemed desperate from so early to be into things he was crawling by 5 months it's scary how quickly they advance.

Can't remember who asked about start but I think I was sick before I even got a bfp but I thought I'd got food poisoning so officially I say 6 weeks was my start of sickness and by the end of 7 I wanted to die.

I'm off to try and sleep off this flu, have really bad conjunctivitis with it but been using tea tree oil mixed with jojoba and vit e as a carrier and dabbing it round my eyes and eyebrows and honestly think you can feel the germs trying to run away it's amazing. Just instantly soothes and kills the bacteria. That's made me a wee bit pleased lol.

Hope everyone is coping as best they can and organised for Monday's shit show I normally love Christmas not feeling it this year

Sounds horrendous Mustang hopefully it’s the fluey feeling before labour kind of flu rather than actual flu!

Also N&V before I got my BFP here. That’s why I knew to take the test!