Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Miserably raising my head from the sick button and typing through swollen puffy watery eyes to tell you I did justtheonethen
Took my phernergan with water in the morning before I went to mine. Had asked MW about it and she said it was fine but probably wouldn't help the gag reflex which comes with the horrid glucose drink(she was right about that)but I just feel more comfortable taking my medecine at the same time everyday i.e one as soon as I wake up and my other dose in the evening.

Scottish no advice on ICC health I'm afraid but an ex colleague (teacher) recently went and found them really supportive. It was for work stress but they supported her being off and so they won't necessarily just try and get you back. Ultimately there aren't any adjustments to your particular job for hyperemesis. I certainly couldn't have carried on teaching. Try not to worry. You could take some of the PSS literature with you to support what you're saying?

Thanks shehz, sorry you're having a bad day too

puking some more in sick bucket after reading about the enema and shaving pube hairs oh dear

Hope you ladies are okay Nat Mustang* Goats Scottishem Meadow
Waves to everyone and Lucinda
Sorry if I missed some people really horrible day here..

justtheonethen Oh no, sorry! I thought it was earlier along with you. Oh dear, you are one of the (un)Favoured Few who suffer later on. Much sympathy. Re: the test, sorry that I don't know, but hopefully someone will be on who's had it.
Natsku Sorry that the Branx H are the painful sort with you. Yes, it must be really handing having an electrician OH.
Mustang Wise words as ever. Sorry LO is unwell.
GoatsI am glad you are asking for an extension of the sick note. It sounds as if you need it. Sucking ice cubes is great for a sore throat.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

How long have you been off for Scottish?

I'm worried about work too, but the way I'm feeling, there is simply no physical way I could go in. I am far too weak even without the sickness. Sitting up tires me out. No idea how I'm going to make it through DD's school play tonight but after that I have nowhere I have to be until the scan on the 29th

To think that only a few short months ago I spent all day hiking in the nearby mountains and now I get dizzy walking down the garden

@LostInTheTunnelOfGoats I've only had 2 weeks off (by the end of this sick note) and I had a week off in October but GP has said I can call up and have a 3 week extension without having an appointment.
If I'm still off by end of Feb my maternity leave will start early.
I just think that unless you have a job where you can maybe do a few hours of work at home each week there's really no adjustments they can make for hyperemesis.
Wondering aswell whether I can just have a phone consultation with them instead of having to go somewhere

Definitely ask for a phone consultation. They at least should be used to making adjustments!

Argh back to keeping nothing down . Tomato soup is AWFUL on the way back out. Really don't want to go back for fluids for third time in three weeks so I'm putting off checking ketones. I'm in an awful cycle at the moment of getting more and more dehydrated from throwing up until it gets to the point I can't keep anything down and I need to go for iv fluids. Fed up! Getting out to the cancelled appointment really took it out of me I think.

Hi all. Scottish I was referred to Occ Health with my first pregnancy and they basically did I phone consultation and sent a report to my boss to tell him he was an idiot and not to refer again. They also referred me when I was waiting on gallbladder surgery. I think they just like to cover their backs.
Mustang hope things are progressing and Natsku ouch to your BH.
Just dreading my GT test. No way anything is going to stop me gagging through the whole thing.

@seizethecuttlefish thanks I'm hoping theyre just ticking boxes by doing it.

@justtheonethen I feel your pain with the soup... one of the worst things I've thrown up was pea and ham soup!

Scottish I've been off like 8 weeks or so now but the company I work for doesn't have its own OH department and outsources that work so I reckon they refer as few as possible so probably won't get bugged about it. I had to have an OH appointment and report before I started this job because of my existing health conditions and most notably my Asperger's Syndrome. They were really supportive so I'd try not to worry about it too much because I doubt they will just try and force you into work, if anything I think they're more likely than your usual managers etc to be sympathetic and understand better.

Natsku Hope your BHs have calmed down now. I can't even imagine what they feel like . Pregnancy is such a big and new scary thing.

Goats Yeah deffo get your sick line extended. I need mine doing later in the week too.

Just You poor thing . Is there any chance of you trying the steroids in the end? I just feel like you are suffering so much and already tried all the other stuff . Do check your pee though hon, I know it's shit going to hospital but your health is so important.

I actually have some good news. Yesterday I had the first day where I didn't feel absolutely permanently crippled with severe nausea and today I've only vomited once and it was only like a little vomit. I'm still really dizzy when I move about like someone else mentioned and that makes me more nauseous too and idk if this will keep up or it's a fluke couple of days or what, so definitely not going to committ to going back to work straight after Xmas (tbh like Goats or someone said even without the vomiting atm my body is just absolutely knackered after all this time of being so ill, I'm still sleeping a lot and have no energy), so I will get another sick line later this week hopefully they'll do me another fortnight and then I will reassess and if it keeps up then maybe I can start off doing afternoons from home if they'll let me and see how I go. I've really got my fingers crossed this is the start of recovery for me or at least a recovery phase...

Also I've had a good look in the mirror and I think I'm starting to show! I'm very bloated so I'm sure that's part of it but yeah my waistline is definitely protruding a bit! Feels strange.

I second the Medela swing pump (can’t remember who was asking) and Lucinda yes unfortunately I still get the nausea when I express. Good idea though.

Scottish I had the same experience as Sieze with OH. They assessed me and told work not to refer me again unless the HG magically cleared up. They’re there to help you not force you back to work.

Hi everyone, some kind ladies sent me here.

It looks like I have this horrendous sickness too. I am nauseous all the time. I’ve spent the past few days not being able to keep food or water down. It’s that bad I wet myself when I’m sick or retch.

My husband has heard me but thinks I can tough it out and that this is normal morning sickness. It can’t be! I’ve been lying here rolling around in agony trying to avoid getting up to sick up nothing. I’m constantly belching sick taste into my mouth and am very dehydrated, but even when I sip water I’m sick right after.

We are flying/training to my husbands family tomorrow (we live just outside the uk) and I’m terrified of feeling like this for the whole journey. I am so sick and he doesn’t understand. I want to hide away.

I am 8.5 weeks. Thanks!

Hi @FE1984 congrats on your pregnancy. Ok so il start with your hubby he is not going to get either of you very far with that attitude he needs to be supportive and understanding, would you say to him it's just sickness and to get on with it, If he was poorly! Also ask him when he last experienced "just morning sickness" and what made him the expert. Massive hugs it's a hard enough battle without the ones closest to you being unsupportive. Do you have anytime to get an emergency app to get some meds before your journey I realise it's tomorrow. If you have struggled to keep anything down even for a couple of days you are likely dehydrated and will need fluids. You unlikely do have time if it's tomorrow so I'd organise a trip to the nearest midwife triage once you arrive. I'm so sorry you are having to do the journey in the first place.

Please seek medical advice ASAP or you are putting yourself at risk.

Are you still hanging in there Oklahoma with the breastfeeding? Can't believe it's making you so ill.

Some times the positives are brief meadow but it's still a goodish couple of days so take what you can. Your body will feel done for awhile even if you are on the mend so don't rush anything it won't benefit anyone. Oooo love a wee new bump my advice wear as much over bump leggings/comfies as soon as you can, honestly you will cry putting them away after baby.

Oh my goodness Shehz and Just are you the guys always twinning on timing with your sickness as it looks like it again. You poor things. Massive hugs from me.

I saw occ health Scottish they pretty much laughed all the way back to my managers and asked them not to waste their time again. It sucks though as you don't need that extra stress.
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Goats* that is one of the most frustrating things about hg as overdoing it can be as something as simple as making it to church on a morning or actually brushing your hair and putting a fresh set of jammies on, it's bloody unfair. I hope it stems off a little soon so you can recover from your not so over doing it over doing it lol.

That's an idea Natsku il let them chose what suits them and go with that. How's the pa

Ooops posted to soon

Natsku* was just about to ask how the pains have been the rest of the day?

So I ended up at out of hours with mini with a temp of 40 and a resting heart rate 178 he was so limp could barely hold his head up. Dr thought it might be serious but paediatrician just said alternate with nurofen and calpol and keep a close eye on any changes . Be perked up a little for some chocolate ice cream but wilted again soon after. I honestly can't believe he is ill again just want my poor baby to be cut some slack. Looks like he has inherited my shit immune system.

Oh no poor mini :(When DD gets ill she tends to get really ill with temps of 40+ and it always worries me so much but I've learnt that some children just tend to get ill like that and the doctors always reassure me that it's ok and not as scary as it looks. Is he managing to drink enough? That's the important thing right now - ice lollies were something DD could usually manage when she has those high fevers.

Had pain in my kidney area again last night when I needed to wee which made me worry about those kidney troubles again but it went away after a little while but I'm keeping an eye out for it returning and if it does I'm going to the doctor. DD's social worker is popping round today with some Christmas presents for her, will be very glad to tell her that things are good with DD now (we've had a big worry the last two months because she had been saying things like she wishes she was dead but now she's been telling me that she doesn't wish that any more.

Love and strength to those stressed out about working and being off. Try to keep strong, you know you need to be off and are in no condition to work and occupation health are likely to realise that too and bosses have to realise it too.

Just and Shezh sorry you're suffering so much at the moment, really hope you both get some relief soon. And urgh to tomato soup coming back up, just the thought of that makes me retch, must be so acidic!

Welcome FE1984 oh no having to travel when that sick is horrible :( I hope you get through it ok and I agree with Mustang get yourself to a doctor as soon as possible to get some meds. Can you get some Avomine for the journey tomorrow? It's sold OTC as travel sickness med but it's one that's used for HG too.

Pregnancy is scary even when it isn't new Meadow! Even though I've done it before I'm still absolutely terrified of going through birth again and every new symptom freaks me out. I guess some things we never get used to.

Lucinda They have tried Cyclizine, Ranitidine, Omprazole, Prome- something. Ondansetron is the only thing that makes me feel human again and was given to me by the consultant after my 2nd hospital admission.
Yes, I've got loads of kesostix that I got after my first admission. I really hope it doesn't come to that again...
The sickness woke me up around midnight last night, I just want to cry now...
For those who have had pregnancy with HG before, does it go away as soon as baby is born? Have you had it for every pregnancy? We wanted 2/3 children but I really don't know if I can do this again.

scottishem I was off work for 5 weeks and my manager had told me I was protected work wise because I was pregnant.

Orange for the vast majority of people it goes away as soon as the placenta leaves the body. For a very few unlucky people it hangs around with breastfeeding (VERY few people). I think the stats are 85% chance of having it in subsequent pregnancies if you’ve had it before.

Mustang it’s horrid when they’re ill. And they can spike a fever so so quickly, it’s really scary. On the plus side they generally bounce back just as quickly. Hope mini feels better soon.

Waves to everyone else

Thanks all! Haven’t got the hang of adding specific names on here yet!

Had no sleep, but have managed to keep a few sips of lucozade down. Have also grabbed some polos to suck on as suggested, so hoping this will help get me through! At DHs family this eve but heading to mine tomorrow so hoping can get an emergency apt to try and get some help.

I feel for you @orangecloud18, I too was up all night with it. So disheartening.

Yeah Natsku I think mini is definitely in the same boat with the temps as they always get high when I'll it was just with the lethargy and the resting hr being so high. He is still pretty unwell but the nurofen seems to work wonders. He doesn't do ice lollies but ice cream is a winner and icy water. I thought you were out of trouble with your kidneys I really hope they don't get worse. Your poor wee girl glad the mood has swayed I can't even imagine how hard that is to hear. She is so young as well to feel like that.

Me too don't fancy giving birth whilst he is poorly Oklahoma.
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Fe* good luck today on your travels. Oh god polo mints good luck with those they reminded me too much of gaviscon for some reason I can't do them any more.

Orange it did with me first time round and I breastfed so looks like I was lucky to escape the nausea afterwards. I actually had a great labour and felt amazing afterwards midwife couldn't believe how bouncy I was only a few hours after labour. It really did go as soon as baby and placenta was out.

Scottishem I've just had an occy health referral after 8 weeks off sick. I'm back st work but I'm not functioning 100% and my boss has lost a bit of patience with it (so have I to be fair).

OH we're brilliant. They took it really seriously, reminded me that I my condition is covered by the equality act and that if my boss doesn't implement their recommendations then I'll have grounds for unfair treatment.

They've suggested working from home 1 day a week for the rest of my pregnancy, not going any antisocial hours shifts (healthcare) and flexibility around finish times. Appreciate that these work in my field, but they will be able to suggest something that works for yours.

Welcome to Orange and FE1984. So sorry you guys had to join us but you will surely benefit a lot from the amazing support network this group is and from the different experiences/advices on here. This group has been a lifesaver, really helped me keep my sanity during the first 16 weeks or so.

OrangeCloud Though I haven't had an ongoing pregnancy with HG before(I did terminate one because of it though as didn't have enough support or information and thought I would die from it)but when I got got pregnant again this time I got full blown HG again. As far as it sticking around birth,loads from this very group have reported back with no sickness at all as soon as they have given birth but unfortunately there is a tiny minority who do still suffer for some days/weeks after like poor Oklahama here
Also do keep the ranitidine/omeprazole as they are for heartburn rather than to help with nausea & vomiting but the heartburn can contribute to the nausea especially the more your pregnancy progresses so it will definitely help in conjunction with the ondansetron.
So sorry about the sickness keeping you up at night. Hope you start feeling better soon

FE1984 Hope your train journey went ok!
Please do sort out medecines asap,you really don't need to suffer or tough it out. I second Natskus advice about getting some Avomine over the counter if you can. Until you do get yourself to the GP. Glad you were able to keep some sips of lucozade down, try and keep hydrated as much as you can and do check your ketones as if you get dehydrated, you might need fluids.

Mustang Oh no poor darling Mini. Really hopes he gets better soon! You both really need to be better before Mini2 arrives, he was so excited to meet his baby brother/sister and you really should be able to feel relaxed when you do go into labour as I can totally understand how full of worry you'll be if Mini is still poorly while you are at the hospital
Hope the calpol/nurofen gives him some relief.
Big cuddles to him!

Natsku Oh this must be such huge relief to have DD feel much better now. Was she able to wear her tye die tshirt to school? She was so excited to wear it!
And do get yourself to the hosp if you get the pains again. It is probably nothing but not worth you stressing everytime.

Meadow Fab news on the sickness front!!
Whether a couple of fluke news or this grime sh*t of HG genuinely getting better, just make the most of these respite days. And by make the most, I do mean REST. Do not overdo it at any cost just because you are feeling better although I do agree the smallest of tasks can feel like massively overdoing it. So try and keep your feet up and enjoy the sight of a cute wee bump

Waves to Oklahama Lucinda

justtheonethen Haha even Mustang realised we twin on sickness periods!
I was just telling my DH about how excited me and just will be once it's the new year. It will be a renewed sense of courage to keep going as March won't be seem so far anymore 😍
DH is a bit that giving birth seems to be my biggest fantasy atm but if only he knew the relief I am expecting by then....

Yeah she wore her tie dye shirt to school Shezh (great thing about no school uniforms here, she can wear whatever she wants) though she was disappointed that her friends weren't excited enough about it!
Feeling just fine today, no pain at all :)

Natsku Aww poor darling! Well all of mummy's internet friend were excited and in awe
That's good about the pain, as long as you and baby Nat are doing well