Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Goodness, that was a close one. I do apologise, everyone.
I had to go out and didn't think that the last of the thread would go so quickly.
Welcome to the new thread.

Thanks Lucinda. Hope you're well!

I'm fine thank you; I feel very guilty about that close call on here. How are you after those fluids? There have been several disappointing relapses for Bunny Spearo and others.

Thank you Lucinda for the shiny new thread! And no need to feel guilty really. I am amongst those who hog the thread so it's partially on us as well haha

justtheonethen I made the horrible mistake of reading a thread about sweeps couple of weeks back on MN and it really put me off.. then I asked some of my relatives who had them and they all reported back with horror stories of how uncomfortable and painful the sweeps were for them
Though I have to admit that it could depend from woman to woman with pain tolerance level..?
I am 26 weeks tomorrow so not far from 3rd trimester too!
It's a huge relief right to have made it so far!

Thanks for the new thread Lucinda

Ooo just got given a 70 euro gift card for Christmas food, think we might have to take a trip to Lidl!

Natsku Where do you win those €100 and €70 gift cards?! Amazon and now Lidl! Bloody lucky you

Oh Nat I'm actually loving the hiccups right now. My wee one is head right down now but they are rhythmic & bumpy feeling unlike their kicks and wiggles. Mini lay on my pubic bone the other night and just laughed for 10 mins straight feeling their wee brother/sisters hiccups. We were lying in the pitch black or I'd have videoed it really was very precious. He is getting as impatient as me though he wakes up first thing in the morning and says "get out baby I want to speak to you 😂". If only it was that easy.

I can't remember who suggested the spicy food and sexy play I laughed, trust me I tried and I'm not a willing participant in either of those things at the mo.

Sorry Lucinda I didn't mean to come across bossy about a new thread but I thought you might get a notification if I tagged you.

Nat that's awesome on the voucher front I love Christmas food shopping, is Finland as pricey as here for food? I also love Lidl lol.

Shehz I had two last pregnancy but neither were particularly uncomfortable as the first I was completely effaced and 1cm then 2nd I was 3cm and in labour the midwife did it just go make sure I stayed in labour lol. Iv been doing hypnobirthing and it's all about letting things happen naturally which makes me think a sweep is a bad idea lol.

I don't know anything about a sweep except I thought it was supposed to help you go into labour faster? If that's true I can't imagine turning it down at this moment in time the only thing I want is for this bloody pregnancy to be over and I still have another 2/3rds of it to go ...

Had a full on bawling meltdown last time which made me do loads of dry retching. DH is getting very stressed too with me crying all the time and feeling awful. I e-mailed Samaritans last night and still waiting for a reply. I can't call helplines to talk because of my anxiety disorder.

I'm so fed up cos I can't do nothing or I vomit, but because I'm voluntarily sitting in one place all day to avoid vomiting, I keep most of my food & drink down now with the ondansetron so don't need to go to hospital so I feel like nobody will help me any further like they just want to keep me out of hospital and that's it, whereas I feel awful cos I still have no proper quality of life and I feel that it gets worse each day it goes on, not the sickness but the fact that I still can't do anything, go anywhere, see anyone etc...

MeadowHay You poor darling. Cyber hugs and pats
Can really relate to what you have written down in the way that I spent week 7- week 14(16ish almost) sleeping the days away.. It really wasn't easy and all the crying and mourning over my situation led to antenatal depression. I wouldn't say I am a 100% better today but definitely a massive change from back then. It does get better I promise. But I find solace in sleeping and letting time pass back then and even now.. Thankfully I do have amazing RL support in DM and DH. These 2 make a BIG difference in my mental state. Hope you are also getting good RL support and the Samaritans get back to you ASAP. There is really only so much you can do about it when already on medecines than to endure and wish the days away.. but you will soon come out of the horrible days trust me!

mustang oh hypnobirthing has been tempting me as well! On my good days I really feel like I should go for the classes then when I am hit with a shitstorm(courtesy hyperemesis) I lose my motivation ..
Any signs of labour started yet.?

Oh Meadow you are really struggling right now, wish I could just wish it away and make it better. Definitely ask your doctor about adding another med in to see if it helps more.

get out baby I want to speak to you that is so freaking adorable!!

I didn't win this one Shehz it seems to be a thing that 'families in need' get sent though I'm not sure if it's because I'm unemployed or because social services have been helping out with DD - it's from a children's charity and the Red Cross together. Just looked it up, I think that once things are better money-wise I'll donate to them as it's a really nice thing to do at Christmas - it's just for food so can't be spent on anything else so it makes sure children get a Christmas meal.

Natsku Oh that's so lovely
Enjoy your Lidl shopping. After all your worries and stress re DB and all the other things going on lately, you really deserve this little bit of goodness!

Natsku that's lovely, get some lovely Christmas treats in.

Mustang eeeek I'm dying with how sweet mini is!

Meadow to be honest I think that's about right, I feel like doctors only care about keeping you out of hospital and not about quality of life. Certainly no one has given a shit that I'm now 27+6 and I can do nothing without setting off a horrendous relapse. They only seem to care now I've had two admissions in a week.

Lucinda I was feeling ok yesterday. Today I feel dreadful again.

I think I'm depressed. I'm going to talk to my midwife tomorrow at my appointment. I can only assume she will give zero fucks as usual and write down that I'm 'feeling well' at the end of the appointment as usual .

Consultant app Monday- do I ask for steroids? I feel like I'm desperate enough to try something else now but worried about side effects being awful. What I really want is regular fluids as I'm getting into a cycle of getting dehydrated bit by bit then getting fluids then starting getting dehydrated again. My hospital don't have the facilities for that though. They have agreed to rehydrate me at a lower threshold than usual to break the cycle of vomiting but I still need to be at 2+ ketones.
I don't really know what to ask for/talk to the consultant about. Any ideas? I guess steroids are only step left - has anyone had them?!

Shehz yes! We have done so well to get this far!

I also want to do hypnobirthing but can't imagine being able to do a course at the moment. Is it worth doing at home? Or do you need to be taught?

Meadow I know I say this all the time but I'd be right over if you guys weren't all miles away offering an ear. It's so bloody hard especially the earlier months as it just feels like you will never get to the end. Is there a local talking therapy group meet up/ or meditation for stress group near by? We get free ones put on near where I am I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms. Or better yet get hubby to call your midwife and demand you get some Antenatal mh care sorted straight away!! He must be worried about you so I'm sure he can lay it on thick. I can phone and pretend I'm your crazy Scottish relative and I can if need be.

It is adorable Nat I'm sure he is going to be bored out his mind as soon as he has a baby "to speak too" lol. That's brilliant and a massive help at this time of year.

Not really shehz increased bh here and there but seriously this baby is far too comfy. I'd highly recommend the hypnobirthing. I didn't do any classes or pay out for one to one but tbf I would have missed a lot if I had to do something weekly. Do you have Apple Music? I also borrowed books from my local library. Do you use or ever used audible? I got a 30 day free trial and did the Sophie fletcher mindful hypnobirthing book with that. She has a voice like honey I'd marry her .

Just cross post luvvie. I can give you guys a load of links so you can trial it at home and see for yourself. I'd never be able to have done a class as I said this allowed me to do it whenever I could mostly at night or minis nap time and it's been invaluable I'd even say it helped with the nausea.

Brilliant thank you mustang. I have audible- I'll get that book!

Have bought the book. I assume the tracks are in the book?

Yep the tracks are in the book it's a bit crap as they are integrated within chapters but you can buy the tracks stand alone on iTunes for 7.99. Just listen to the whole book though as it's a great way of explaining the logic behind hypnobirthing and don't worry about the tasks like affirmation cards and pictures for visualisation you can do them at other points. You will be to relaxed to take notes lol

Fab thank you!

Thanks everyone.

Mustang I guess I could get DH to call midwife, would she even talk to him though? I can't call people cos of my anxiety. My next appt with her will be in about 3 weeks or so, and GP in about a fortnight as I'll no doubt need my sick note extending but that will probably be over the phone and I struggle to even mention my MH on the phone cos I'm so anxious.

It is actually my birthday on Saturday and then obv Xmas coming up and I feel like even sadder if that makes sense, because I feel sadder that I can't enjoy these things that I normally enjoy and look forward to .

Just My hospital only admits if your ketones are at 4+, below that it's their discretion whether to do anything or not. When the GP sent me my ketones were about 2 and they gave me a bag of fluid and IV metoclopramide then let me go home. Which was fine by me as I wouldn't want to be an inpatient anyway, I get horrible anxiety in hospitals. Could you call PSS tomorrow and ask them about ideas for things to discuss with the consultant maybe? They might be able to give you some advice/ideas.

Shehz My routine is bed around midnight with DH although I don't normally fall asleep until around 2am just lay there for ages. Then my sleep is disturbed throughout the night, usually pee once, eat a few mouthfuls of something another time, the good thing is I'm drinking like 500ml a night of water in sips throughout the night lol. Then I don't get up out of bed until about 2pm when I move to the sofa, have something to eat and drink sit with DH til he goes to work about 4pm then I have to amuse myself on the sofa til he's back about 11pm then when he comes in he tells me about work gives me something to eat and drink and then the cycle continues. It is so grim and lonely .

Sorry everyone I know I am just moaning all the time and some of you are so much sicker than me too.

Meadow PSS are a good idea. I don't do phone calls though either , far too nerve wracking. Wonder if I can email them.
Def get DH to call midwife- she should speak to him. That's a good suggestion.
I sympathise, my day is pretty similar. It's lonely, miserable and boring. I don't know how I have made it this far to be honest.

And meadow it's not a competition of how sick we are, we are all here to support each other. HG is fucking awful and we are entitled to moan as we see fit.

Mustang Of course you didn't sound bossy - it's lucky you called out, as I was too sanguine about how much thread was left.
Shehz21 and others - I do feel guilty though, as poor RockingLobstering came on and had some advice from you lovely current sufferers, but I wasn' able to welcome her. I hope she finds us again.
Meadowhay Did you mention emailing Pregnancy Sickness Support? They can partner you with someone as an ex sufferer whose been trained in counselling, and maybe they might do it by email? I actually hate talking on the phone too. I won't say 'Happy Birthday' as that is fatuous in the circumstances; what I will say is I hope you have a far better one than you can imagine. Much sympathy.
justtheone I am so sorry you feel vile again.
Natsku The chest pains sound alarming - was it a form of panic attack? People sometimes think they are having a heart attack with those.

I am glad that BATMAN stayed off and I hope that everyone is more or less coping.