Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Thank you for asking after me. I've had a good day today. Met an old friend and took DD swimming. I'm on cyclazine and metocholpramide now, having successfully weaned off the ondansetron a couple of weeks ago. Starting to feel baby move which is really nice.

I have appointments with occupational health and also MH services coming up. Can see why women end up with PTSD after this. My boss wants me back in the office 4 full days from next week (have been working from home a bit). I have a very long commute either side so am hoping that occupational health will support me to adjust my work pattern a bit as I'm worse in the morning and evening.

Am very worried about if/when it comes back. It did with DD during third trimester so am trying to stay as well as I can for now.

Very sorry to hear you've had a relapse Bunny. Did you ever manage to get into the good stuff ondansetron? That makes such a difference.

We are/were in a LDR so do have that space. Unfortunately it looks like I am going to be relying on him to take me Saturday.

This made me laugh today

Hah Just

Coming off ADs is hard at the best of times Meadow but especially so when dealing with HG. I had to wean off mine slowly (mine were capsules with those little balls inside so I took one extra ball out every couple of days so weaned very gradually which helped a little)

Oh dear thingy hope it's over soon for you now your plug has come away

Winky sorry the dad is being so difficult, he needs to be supportive of you!

Hi, I was wondering I could join and also ask for some advice at the same time. I was diagnosed with HG at 6 weeks, now 11.5 and have had 4 admissions for overnight fluids so far. Am on a combo of ondansetron, cyclizine and stemetil so cant have anything else.
This morning when I was doing my usual breakfast vomit 🤢 i brought up a large amount of bright red blood. Should I be concerned?
I’m unsure what to do as am staying with my inlaws for a couple of weeks for help with childcare as I’m signed off work and have a 2 yo dd, but now over 200 miles from home and my local hospital who are usually fab. I had to attend the local hospital here and they were awful and wouldn’t treat me saying i wasn’t dehydrated enough even though I was testing positive for 3+ ketones at home :( so am reluctant to go there again!

Thanks for the messages girls! Shez Yes I am on piriton but can't say it is helping much. I've also got a menthol aqueous cream that seems to be helping at night and on a huge dose of medication for the ICP, none of which are bringing either of my lvier levels or itching down :( High possibility I will be induced in the next few weeks!

IceCream I also vomited bright red blood a few times, it was pretty scary but was assured it was perfectly normal considering how violently sick i was being. If it continues though I would definitely speak to your doctor. Also 3+ ketones is still enough to be rehydrated!! That is shocking!

Icecream it's really bad how different the treatment is that you receive depending on where you are. If it was fresh red blood it's likely tearing due to retching somewhere between your stomach and throat muscles. I'm not medically trained (qualified nurse but not practiced in over 10yrs) so in theory know nothing lol. You could also have a stomach ulcer which could explain blood? Are you taking anything for the acid? I didn't realise mine was that bad but it definitely has helped my sickness since adding in ranitidine (Zantac) still sick often but not as violent thankfully. If you are worried about the blood call your local midwife or triage and speak to them I'm sure they will help put your mind at rest.

Glad you have help with childcare it really does help, my wee one is 21/2 and I'm 38 weeks this will be our last for sure. Were you sick last pregnancy? Sorry for so many admissions, bloody horrible for you. There is steroids as a treatment you aren't at the end of things to try. Some get relief with Ondansetron and metoclopromide. The others will be on to give you some more advice they are fantastic you will get a lot of support on this thread.

Icecream I think that red blood is better than brown/black but I think you should phone a doctor. Maybe 111? Or your in laws surgery who will see you as a visitor. Poor you.
I have metoclopromide, ondansetron and cyclizine so there are different combos you can try. Are you on 8mg tablets of ondansetron?

Spearo ugh how horrible for you. I have no suggestions. I assume putting stuff on it isn't going to help as it's an internal problem. Hmm. Can you try stronger antihistamines? Cyclizine 50mg?

Can a midwife prescribe antidepressants? I think I need something but might wait until my midwife appointment next week. Mainly because I can't bear to leave the house at the moment, but I also don't feel suicidal now I'm hydrated. Just regular miserable.

Hi Just no they can't unfortunately, you'd have to see your GP. They should treat you as a priority case though so you can push for an emergency appointment. I would act now rather than wait until next week as ADs take a little while to kick in

Well worth mentioning to your MW though

I hope for your sake they do induce you spears sounds utterly miserable. I loathe being itchy.

Glad the fluids have helped just and you feel a bit better. Is there anything you like doing that maybe you have a little energy for now to help keep your mood boosted? What about making your own Christmas cards, or scrap booking/journaling pregnancy so far you don't have to leave the house for that lol. I do a journal I find it really cathartic.

I'm not sure if they can, maybe drop her a call in the mean time see what she suggests. She might have to refer you to someone else so if you wait until you see her you will be waiting longer .

Can someone send me some energy to get out my pyjamas please.

I'll phone them tomorrow then batman. I need to get my repeat prescription changed to include the cyclizine anyway. I just hate talking about how I feel. The thought of doing it more than once is awful.

Xpost Batman knows .

Mustang I started a pregnancy journal but it just makes me cry as I am hating pregnancy so much. I haven't even opened it for months.
Christmas cards is a good idea. I'll have a browse on Pinterest. Thank you!

I have no energy either so I suggest you stay in your pjs!

My son is watching YouTube vids and they started singing about god after playing with some paw patrol stuff. Some basic brainwashing won't harm him at two right I can't be bothered with the meltdown if I try to switch it lol.

I just put all the shit in it just but I get why it makes you feel worse. I'm just like nothing positive to say this week but here's all the shit lol. I feel for my babies if they ever read them.

Oh I got a bargain on a barely used caboo 20 quid on gumtree. It's a nice colour too.

I got a little broody yesterday seeing a tiny newborn at my local parent and toddlers which is the first time in 9 months iv felt that this has been worth it. I felt so bloody guilty.

Pj day it is then

Can't hurt mustang, might drive you mad though! That Caboo is a bargain! You are going to take my bargain hunting crown!

I've now scared myself rigid reading up on side effects of antidepressants in pregnancy. Mostly withdrawal in babies when they are born and lung problems if they are taken in second half of pregnancy.
I guess I just need to accept that HG is shit and I'm just going to be miserable until I give birth if I don't want to take anything?

These updates on the PC that don't work are maddening...Just got on.
IceCreamIceCream Welcome. Poor you, four admissions already. You've had great advice about the bright red blood. It probably is from the throat from violent retching, but always worth contacting GP or midwife to query. I had it with Hyperemesis and have had it with migraines. It does look alarming. Could they add an anti acid to your meds as that can make such a difference to the amount of vomiting. You probably know what liquids suit you, but just in case, some people have found helpful: ice lollies, ice cubes, flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucoazade, Dr Pepper, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya) orange squash, Elderflower Water, fizzy orange, soda water, and for food of a sort, cuppa soup, jelly, cheap ice cream (But from your name you'll know that!), nibbles of crisps and chips, melon and mango. One woman used to pulverize it and freeze it into cubes for hydration. It is awful that you were described as not dehydrated with 3+ ketones. I suspect they just didn't have a bed with the seasonal overstretching of the NHS.
justtheone and DeadDoorPost Sadly, no life of travel for me!
justtheone Nasku and others, I am really sorry about your depression. I have always had what is described as 'a strong streak of melancholy' but I gather that' s not depression. It must be awful if you have to come off meds for it for the good of the baby and battle through somehow. It is the more difficult, as it would be odd NOT to be really miserable when suffering from this. A great cartoon .
BATMAN Congratulations on swimming with DD, most brave. And also, on coming off Ondansetron and not being too ill. That's a big leap, four full days from working at home. I hope HR can help you sort it out.
Mustang Great ideas about activities.
pippsnsippa Lovely of you to post that supportive message.
spearo21 That itching sounds awful. I hope they induce soon.
Waves to Meadowview Bunnyfluffy and everyone.
winky I am really sorry that there is this conflict between you and OH over this. Very hard to deal with besides the rest.
Watch me cross post...apologies for anyone rudely ignored.

Ladies quick advice needed here please.
Just received attached letter in the mail and I have never been made aware by my midwife or GP that I need this maternity exemption certificate!
I have called them and they told me it's my midwife's mistake and while they can waive the penalty charge, I still have to pay the prescription charges. Now I am so pissed that I have to pay for the midwife's mistake! Is there anything I can do so that the bloody MW or their midwife center can pay for their own bloody mistake?!
I called my MW and she told me oh she must have forgotten and to come in at 3 to send the form.

How annoying shehz. No advice sorry.

Shehz this is so very annoying and unfair! I had a quick google for you and I'm afraid I couldn't find very much that would be helpful in the way of advice. It looks like they are very strict on this and that it is the exemption certificate that entitles you to the free prescription, rather than being pregnant - so even if you can prove you were pregnant you still have to pay the prescription charge. The only way out of it seems to be if you had actually applied but hadn't received the certificate yet, but obviously that's no help as your mw didn't even tell you that you needed one! Grrrr .

Hi Shez you can get an exemption certificate from your GP reception or your MW. Mine was backdated to the start of my pregnancy so you may be able to get them to waive the fine. It's worth asking.

In the meantime, if you need prescriptions you will have to pay BUT you can ask for a written receipt. This is a big blue form that the pharmacy fill out and stamp, not a standard till receipt. Then, once you get your exemption card (mine came really quickly) you can take all your receipts and card to ANY pharmacy and get a refund.

Hope that helps...

Bad day here today, the ondansetron is winking at me saying "take me, you'll feel loads better"...

Batman listen to the ondansetron. It's right.

She the same happened to me and I gave up and paid it in the end. I argued for a long time but wasn’t getting anywhere

Thanks all for the advice. Attended (a different, much nicer!) hospital to have the bleeding checked out and my ketones were at 4+ so being admitted.

Thank you for all your kind comments. I feel so conflicted. I have a termination booked next Thursday- a week today. But I wish I could keep the baby. But husband can’t face another one and I don’t know how I can face another pregnancy sick especially without his support. I just keep thinking that I might miss this child for the rest of my life. But then I also want to be there for my own children this Xmas. I hate not being able to get them things. I’m going to miss my sons first nativity I’m so sick. I’m so confused. I don’t want to muck my families life up getting through a pregnacy for a child we can afford and my husband doesn’t have energy for.