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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 20/05/2017 14:17

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Hollyhop17 · 21/05/2017 07:55

My non vom streak came to an end Sad. I has two glorious days of not being sick and having the nausea at manageable levels. Stupidly, but predictably, I thought, 'aha I'm better now' and had pizza for dinner. Took a while but as soon as I got into bed I had to run to the loo to bring it all back up. Definitely off pizza now, it has come back up everytime...

Haich, your day sounds excellent yesterday, I'm so pleased your friends did that for you. I like hearing about others good days, gives me hope its possible!

Lemon, meant to say up thread, bloody love the HP themed room! I am off to the the Cursed Child in a few weeks (I better be well enough for it) cant wait. How are you doing the room?

Someone asked about the wall stickers, if you search in amazon you will find loads and loads. Perfect for a themed room, but easy to remove if you want to move/they grow out of it etc.

Has anyone found the smell of paint set them off? We need to paint the room and I'd like to help but dont want to go backwards...

Waves to all. Sorry to the new people joining us.

Melleebacca · 21/05/2017 08:49

Holly - general idea is to keep beautiful pregnant ladies away from paint fumes. With DDs pregnancy, I worked in a chemical factory, and never found any fumes that set me off, except the smell of some of the workers...

Mustang27 · 21/05/2017 08:59

Lol mellee I can't stand how my partner smells, like rotten dog meat but he is a clean freak I was the same last pregnancy.

Oh Holly pizza is the worst, you think how bad can it be it's bread tomato and cheese........really bloody bad. Hugs.

Aww Haich that's so lovely surprise baby celebration.

Satsooma just don't over do it with your guests toddler and baby but I'm sure they will be a wonderful distraction.

Oh god disco I feel the rage, they say it with such conviction. I had one meal yesterday and my Mil piped up that maybe I should eat things i don't like you might not be sick Hmmyeah because if I'm wretching just smelling it that will be a massive improvement.

I'm having a bad morning I came down stairs to an absolute tip even though I asked my partner to clean up toddlers dinner dishes and tidy a little..... nothing done.. this has been going on for years, we are seeing a counsellor but it's made no difference. I flipped pulled all his clothes out his drawers and wardrobe and asked him to leave he is mopping in the bedroom now blaming his Aspergers but it all just seems so fecking convenient to me. I just don't want 3 children when this baby comes. Sorry when I gave a good day il post promise Sad

Hollyhop17 · 21/05/2017 09:00

Haha thanks for the advice Mellee. Will delightfully inform DH I cant possibly help!

Mustang27 · 21/05/2017 09:00

Clean freak with personal hygiene and his car nothing else.

Hollyhop17 · 21/05/2017 09:22

Cross posted Mustang. I'm so sorry. That sounds like the last thing you need on top of everything else. I would be furious with DH as well.

Will he at least do the tidying now? I had to have a big chat with my DH about this. He is great at doing all the cooking and looking after me but not so much at tidying or cleaning without being asked. After a bad vomming session after cleaning the bathroom I had a massive chat about how he needs to proactively help more.

OnNaturesCourse · 21/05/2017 10:26

Hello. Place marking. Due 27 November xx

Thingymaboob · 21/05/2017 10:28

Out of hours GP was useless. Apparently I should go and buy metoclopramide from pharmacy. Has anyone else done this?

FlapAttack88 · 21/05/2017 11:31

Wow at all you people hosting! I am so grumpy my husband doesn't dare invite anyone over. That said we have my PIL over for today but just for the day and I can't promise someone won't lose a limb.

Mustang I would be furious too. He needs to pull his weight. That s the last thing you need.

Thingymaboob out of hours drs are so hit and miss. I have never heard of thst suggestion before or taken thay medication so not much help sorry. I doubt pharmacist would let you buy it if you're pregnant anyway? How are you feeling today? I had to use my own water trick myself this morning!

putputput · 21/05/2017 13:52

Heads up- this will be a horribly selfish, self indulgent, woe is me type post.

I'm so fucking down at the moment. HG has sucked out any enjoyment and excitement from this pregnancy.

I went to a family wedding on the weekend. I felt like shit during the whole thing when I should have been having a laugh with cousins I haven't seen for years. I had to leave during the meal because the smell of the beautiful food was too much. I vomited loudly enough to clear the toilets. We were home by 5pm and I was asleep by 7.
I'm nearly 15 weeks. That's 25 more weeks to get through. It feels like a lifetime.
I was so foul to DH yesterday because he went out on a bike ride and we had no potatoes or bread left in the house. I made him feel so guilty when he's been bloody brilliant throughout.

I'm finding this limbo stage of feeling shit but not quite shit enough really difficult. I just feel like I'm having to compromise every aspect of my life to keep on an even keel. Friends have given up asking how I am, even close friends seem bored of it now.
I'm back at work on reduced hours and come home feeling so exhausted I can't string a sentence together. I feel like I'm letting HG win but I don't know how not to.

And breathe.

Hollyhop17 · 21/05/2017 14:07

Oh Putput, I've been there Sad. So sorry it is so bad at the moment. I dont have many words of wisdom but early on I often thought I cant possibly do this for another X weeks and yet here I am at 31 weeks. Its still bad, but not as bad as it was. I really hope that with each passing week you feel a tiny bit better.

I think you need to accept, and its really bloody hard, that for 9 months (hopefully less) you really arent going to get much enjoyment out of life and big events are going to be ruined for you. Set the bar so low, that anything else is a tiny bonus.

Dont feel like you arent winning. Everyday you wake up, its a day more you've beaten HG. My advice, and it is stolen from this thread, Mellee I believe, is to find something to 'look forward' to each week. Try not to think of the whole journey, its too depressing. Get yourself a wall chart and tick off each day. Somethinh tangible and visual might help.

Hugs.

LucindaE · 21/05/2017 14:08

Mother Hen comes back in, rather vague,but headache free.
Thingbmaboob. Welcome. I have never heard of that happening before, my goodness. Can you get an emergency appointment on Monday? I didn't even know you could get meto. from a pharmacists - are you in the UK? You can get Cyclizine - if not pregnant, though it's been used safely for maybe thirty plus years. Much sympathy over dry retching. That is the worst bit of all. As below, yes, flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, Elderflower water, soda water, ice cubes, Lucoazade, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit especially peaches and pears, Dr Pepper, jelly, maybe sips of chocolate milkshake (perhaps soya), slices of frozen melon, cheap ice cream, nibbles of crisps, and cuppasoup are some of the things people have found bearable. As others say, do invest in some keostix to check for the early stages of dehydration. If you leave it too long, the dehydration finally affects your thinking, and you can refuse to believe how bad things are - it's happened to a few women on these threads over the years!
Mustang Poor you. I do feel for you over that. My autistic spectrum brother when I visit him is the same. He doesn't notice squalor, or understand finding it distasteful.
Hollyhop I hope those good days are a sign of more to come. Cooked cheese? Oh dear.
NonStopDisco Do tell what the 'horrifying autocorrect' was - I can't work it out - brain not working? Ginger Insistence really does deserve some retching on the culprit's shoes: - 'You mentioned ginger; sorry,but the very mention of it sets me off'...
FlapAttack Thank you. I do hope this is the turnaround foryou.
Melleebacca To be honest, I think that is a cheek of those 'guests'.
Great advice from everyone.
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LucindaE · 21/05/2017 14:11

putput Really sorry. Cyber hugs on offer. Even for those who suffer throughout, it is almost never as bad as it is earlier, so take heart. Things will probably improve a lot. You will get there. It will be a distant memory. Take one day at a time.

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NonStopDisco · 21/05/2017 16:54

LucindaE "fingered" instead if gingered Blush.
In case anyone is interested, the phrase "to ginger something up", refers to putting ginger up a old horses bottom to make it look lively and make it more saleable. this is what I would like to do to people that ginger me. (I'm not awful, honestly!)

putput hugs from me as well, it's not nice going through this.

mustang I keep trying to tell myself that everyone means well, but I feel patronised, and fed up of repeating myself, and being told I need to eat my vegetables (am I five?!)

LucindaE · 21/05/2017 17:35

NoneStopDisco Ha, Ha, silly me, I should have worked that one out!
I never knew that anecdote from the bad old days - no wonder it doesn't feature in 'Black Beauty'! I think the ineffectual, simplistic advice is a product of the Quick Fix Mentality perpetuated on television in quick 'makeovers'; the view that there is a simple solution for all life's problems, and that everything can be put right just like that. Real life isn't like that; people suffer who don't deserve it and have done nothing to bring it on themselves; many people can't accept that.
Rant from Mother Hen over...

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satsoooma · 21/05/2017 17:59

My doctor prescribed me a potassium syrup to replace the effervescent tablets that I kept throwing up. The syrup tastes like calpol made with sea water, so am still just throwing it all up.

Has anyone ever heard of being able to get supplements intravenously? Apparently there are no potassium tablets, so I'm thinking of suggesting to my doctor that they just bypass my stomach entirely and give me a potassium drip or something. This was suggested to be by a relative who works in th NHS, but I'm not sure if it is realistic to request it from my GP.

Melleebacca · 21/05/2017 19:07

Mustang - sorry DH is being difficult. My hubby tried his best when I was at my worst but we still have different levels of cleanliness. He also said the level of complaining I do is related to how sick I feel, when I feel a bit better, I'm able to talk and complain more.

Holly - I always cleaned the toilet when sickest, there's something nice about puking into a clean loo.

Putput - I went to a wedding at 16w, almost passed out due to no chairs, rainy day and the fact I could only eat crackers. It was awful. I love weddings typically. I've also been assigned to maternity mental health, who check in on me once a month due to depressive feelings at the beginning. They said they're dealing with a lot of HG ladies as it is not only a physical struggle but also a mental one. Maybe you could get referred to someone? I know how hard it is, but I try to have one thing to look forward to a week (this week is the day after my guest leaves and I finally can lounge around in my pjs).

Lucinda & Mustang - I have 2 brothers on the spectrum, but unfortunately they notice other people's mess not their own. They will readily point out how messy my house is when they visit, so I've been subtly keeping them at arms length this pregnancy, mostly for my sanity.

Nonstop - stupid vegetables. My house guest keeps offering to make salad. DD doesn't like the texture of lettuce, and I have to hide veges in the food I can eat to be able to get any in, but even then I can't be bothered. Rather just eat what's palatable and sticks.

Satsoooma - last pregnancy I had iron injections due to not being able to keep up my iron levels (likely due to red meat and leafy veges making me heave), and this time around I've already had a B12 shot. Doctor was pretty understanding when I said I couldn't take much orally.

Waves to all.

Mustang27 · 21/05/2017 19:56

That is not helpful mellee' husband Hmm iv felt awful this weekend but that didn't stop me losing it if anything it made me lose it more.

Oh god putput!!

So glad there are so many of you guys that get the spectrum thing. It's so bloody hard to have a 90/10 relationship when it comes to household and childcare. I'm so sick of ppl saying but he works full time what do you expect!!! Seriously I have worked full time most of my adult life and nobody made me a hot meal or made sure my pants were washed at any point so why is it that men that have a family are excused because they work Hmm meh.

Hugs for everyone feeling a bit or a lot shit!!!

LucindaE · 21/05/2017 20:11

Mustang and Mellee I so agree with that comment about excuses being made for men! I think I would have bawled and screamed Sad if my brother had made any of his tactless remarks when I was suffering...

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DeadDoorpost · 21/05/2017 20:35

Well, after a week and a bit of no sickness with the ondansetron it seems to have stopped working again. Just like all the other tablets. 😭😭😭 back to square one. I've never felt so useless. Gonna give it a few more days before I phone the dr

Lemondrop99 · 21/05/2017 20:44

Hi all. Sorry I've been awol for a few days, I've had my best friend to visit from up North for a long weekend. What a fast moving thread this has become, I can't keep up!

Ergh, it's been a mixed few days. Some vomiting, some nausea, while attempting to do some normal things. My best friend has been very understanding though, happy to hang around the house watching Disney movies while I clutch a bowl! Heartburn city here too. We went with another friend to have a girly stroll around the shops are awwww over baby grows and nursery furniture but I was a bit useless. My energy levels are zero, lots of shuffling slowly and sitting down required. Oh and I threw up in IKEA! I also discovered that Red Velvet cake return the same colour.....

Was supposed to be at the Rugby 7s at Twickenham today but spent it flopping around on the sofa.

Anyone else's bisacodyl doing sod all? First time it was quite powerful, I've taken it twice since and really haven't felt it doing much.

Holly, I LOVED the Cursed Child! Ok, the story is a bit dubious but the scenes are beautiful, the special effects are wonderful and the actors are great. I'm a little bit in love with Scorpius. I really hope you're well enough to enjoy it.

Lemondrop99 · 21/05/2017 20:46

Doorpost - why do you think the ondansetron has stopped working? Are you vomiting a lot? My nausea and vomiting very much comes in peaks and troughs. I have some vomit free days, other days I throw up. The ondansetron has never completely stopped my vomiting but has reduced it and it's still hands down ten times better than any other drug I've tried.

DeadDoorpost · 21/05/2017 21:39

Lemon it had completely stopped the vomiting and I only needed one tablet a day to get it to keep me ok. Since Thursday I've needed to use 2 but today even that's not helped keep it at bay. Considering how the other tablets stopped working with the same pattern (if be fine then the sickness would increase and they'd have no effect) I'm worried it's happening again. At least it's not been too bad but I've not kept anything down today except the soup I've just had... But I can feel my stomach turning as I type so I'm not holding out much hope.

satsoooma · 22/05/2017 03:10

Deaddoorpost. How many mg are your tablets. You should easily be able to take at least 16mg a day. I saw a big improvement switching from 2x8mg tablets to 4x4mg tablets. You coild also ask your doctor to prescribe you something on top. Cyclizine, promethazine and prochlorperazine have all been used by people in this thread.

flossyfloss · 22/05/2017 08:14

Deaddoorpost- definitely see if you can up your dose!

I have 4mg 3 times a day, I take one in the morning, another in the afternoon and another early evening. In between each dose I take metochopramide and I also take a cyclizine about 9pm which sedates me for a good nights sleep.

They did say I could increase my ondansetron dose slightly if needed too