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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 09/04/2017 20:59

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Hollyhop17 · 16/05/2017 08:33

Morning. Sorry Haich, definitely dont try and go in, you'll only set yourself back. Hope you can rest up today.

Wish me luck ladies. Off to the hospital this morning to discuss the readings I've bee taking to decide if I do have GD or not. Reaaaaally need some good news for a change...

Waves to all, hope everyone has a good day.

Lemondrop09 · 16/05/2017 09:02

Sorry to hear everyone is having such a rough time at the moment. The thread has got very busy and I can keep up with everyone! So sad that so many women are suffering Sad

Haich, I know the early triggered mat leave is a worry but look after yourself and your little one. It maybe be worth talking to your employer because if you're only having the odd day off sick, it would be mean for them to trigger your leave early...

Holly, all the best today! Hoping for good news, you really deserve some.

I took a bisacodyl last night. It wasn't as bad this time, didn't get the stomach aches and it the evacuation wasn't quite as violent!!!

My FB post has been shared in quite a few places and an got called an 'article' lol. I'll share the initial post below (might nc for it), shame I can't share the whole thing as some of the comments have been great.

Melleebacca · 16/05/2017 09:06

Good luck holly. Fingers crossed for you.

Haich - try not to get too anxious. The cold will definitely be making the HG worse. I'm not looking forward to cold season here. Every one I got in my first pregnancy had me taking numerous steps back as my body had to fight the cold and the HG.

Feeling really nauseous here. Ate a little too much for dinner, and had a rough day with DD. Starting to think I should change the time I take my ondansetron tablet to cover dinner time, but then my mornings would be write offs. Got a friend who has invited himself to stay for 5 days from this weekend. So not looking forward to faking being social, and really sad to be losing my early bedtime. 😞

VomityRant · 16/05/2017 09:08

HG Awareness Day

"Today is International Hyperemesis Gravidarum Awareness Day. While most of you know I've been unwell, there is a general lack of awareness about this condition and I want to share my experience. The photo shows all the drugs I've had to take over the last few months.

Before I became pregnant, I'd barely heard of HG aside from the papers talking about Kate Middleton. I thought morning sickness would be a quick puke first thing then I'd trundle off to work and carry on with my day. Just four days after my positive pregnancy test, I threw up for the first time. Then again and again. That day, I went to lie down in bed. I hardly got out of it again for the next three months.

HG hit me like a ton of bricks. I had no idea what was happening to me. Was this normal? All I could do was lie in bed and throw up. I felt severely nauseous 24/7 and was vomiting vigorously up to 10 times a day. Sometimes I threw up blood. I couldn't keep food down, I could barely keep water down. I couldn't watch tv, or read a book because it made me feel sick. Just rolling over or sitting up was enough to make me throw up. All I could do was stare at the ceiling or sleep. Simple things like having the energy to stand in the shower felt impossible. I cried. A lot. Every day seemed like a year and nine months seemed like an eternity. I had no idea how I would get through it.

I wasn't prepared for the impact it would have on my mental health. I hardly saw anyone for weeks and weeks as it was such early pregnancy, when you don't traditionally tell people. It was very isolating and scary. Friends and colleagues noticed I'd disappeared but didn't know why. I cancelled all social engagements, missed hobbies that I love and had to sell tickets to events I'd been looking forward to. Life just stopped. It was so lonely.

The dehydration was extreme. I visited my midwife at 8 weeks, where a poor student midwife didn't know what to do with this women vomiting all over her room. She tried three times to get blood from me, but I was so dehydrated that my blood had thickened to the point it could not be extracted. She called in a qualified midwife, who also tried and failed to extra blood. Every time they put a needle in, I felt even sicker. I wished they would stop but didn't say anything. I left covered in bruises, miserable that they'd have to try again at a later date. The midwife's parting shot was "if you get any more dehydrated, you'll need to go into A&E for a drip". MORE dehydrated? How much more dehydrated could I get? I didn't want to be a bother so I just went home. I now know I should have gone in for a drip and I really wish the midwife had been clearer about that.

HG affects your closest family. For me, the guilt was crippling. I felt useless and a burden. My poor husband was doing absolutely everything. Working full time, walking the dog every single day, running around after me as I couldn't get out of bed, cleaning the house, multiple trips to the chemist or to the shop to find different foods I might be able to eat - only for me to throw it up again. He's been exhausted, stressed and deeply worried about me and the baby. He never complained once.

I had just started a new job. Just five weeks into that job, I was forced to tell my new manager that not only was I pregnant (surprise!) but I'd been signed off work! Luckily they were supportive and I've been able to work from home. Without that, is have been signed off for months. However, I STILL haven't been physically back into the office since early February as I am not fit enough for the commute into central London.

I barely left the house, only crawling to the GP occasionally to sob at him and beg for help. People in the street recoiled at me as I limped there, stopping to hang off lampposts and throw up in the street. I sat in the GP's waiting room, clutching a carrot bag as other patients eyed me in horror and shuffled further away.

My GP was sympathetic at first and quickly prescribed me a known pregnancy safe medication. Unfortunately it did absolutely nothing to help me. We tried another drug, then another drug. In the end he actually asked me "what do you want me to do?!". I felt so let down. I didn't know how to treat this! He was the medical professional and I wanted him to help me.

Then I found the Pregnancy Sickness Support charity. I cannot speak highly enough of these wonderful people. As I sobbed in desperation to Karen on the helpline, she reassured me, told me where I could get help and what drug I could try. I went back to my GP armed with information, having printed off the new medical guidelines and begged for this drug. GP dismissed all my information even though it was official guidelines! In the end, it was only when my husband told the GP how worried he was about me, did I finally get a prescription.

That drug is the reason I can eat and drink again. It's not a miracle, and I still had days when I couldn't get out of bed, but it was the only thing that helped. Thousands of women country wide take this drug safely in pregnancy, and yet I've heard so many stories of women being denied this help too. It's distressing and more research needs to be put into this area, and most education with GPs is desperately needed so women can access the help they need.

As people slowly found out why I'd disappeared, the well meaning advice started. Almost every single person said to me "have you tried ginger?". Of course I tried ginger! It was the first thing I tried, along with multiple other natural remedies before admitting defeat and seeing my GP. No pregnant women wants to take drugs, the guilt is all consuming as you worry if you are harming your growing baby. I'm on very strong antiemetics which are given to chemo patients. Do you really think a friggin ginger nut biscuit is going to do anything? Please don't say thing to HG sufferers. Anyone will tell you that it's the least helpful thing you can say, as it just shows that you have no idea how unwell that person is and how extreme their sickness is.

A few days ago, I hit 20 weeks, the Pregnancy half way point. I seem to finally be hitting a turning point. I haven't thrown up for a whole week and I've started to try and cut down my medication. I'm hoping I'm one of the lucky ones, as some women suffer right up until labour. Others are hospitalised repeatedly. It's been the toughest four months and it definitely changed your perspective on things, makes you realise what's important. I hope I'm almost through it now, but I've heard so many stories of wine who suffered or are suffering with this. I do not think it's as rare as the NHS make out. More support and research is needed in this area and I'm donating to the wonderful PSS charity, whose support was invaluable when no one else understood. So please, if you come across a woman suffering from this, take her seriously. She's going through hell. Support her, believe her and for God's sake... do not mention ginger!!"

Melleebacca · 16/05/2017 09:25

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satsoooma · 16/05/2017 09:27

Good luck holly!

Hollyhop17 · 16/05/2017 09:43

I cried reading that. Beautifully written. I also wrote something to mark the day, nowhere near as good as yours but I will figure out how to post later.

Appt was at 920 but obviously still waiting...

DeadDoorpost · 16/05/2017 09:49

Bubble don't know if it'll help but I've found that ice lollies have really helped with my fluid intake and that I've been able to stomach saline crackers a lot easier than anything else. So something like Ritz crackers etc. But my sickness seems to be wearing off now I hope but the crackers were a sudden suggestion last week and it a been a godsend it really has. And there's no way I'd be at home right now if I'd not been having ice lollies. I've had so many because the cold has helped my stomach.

And Orange juice is the only drink I can still stand after everything else. Hope something works for you soon!

mrsb87 · 16/05/2017 09:55

Thinking of you today holly, hoping for some good news for you!

questsabelletreetop · 16/05/2017 10:04

Been feeling very nauseous since Saturday, today I've thrown up for the first time- 3times this morning. I'm recognising the signs and know from last time that it's coming.
I feel like I should be doing something to prevent the full onset, is there anything I can do before this totally consumes me. I'm dreading it. Got to take DS to his swimming lesson for 12.00 no idea how that's going to happen...

LucindaE · 16/05/2017 10:29

Welcome to BubbleandSquark. Sorry to hear of awful saliva with Hypermesis, and struggling to breast feed too. I can imagine how you must want to make up for that early birth, but it does sound as if you are too ill to keep on. What do the medics say? I wish I could think of something to stop the excess saliva, but the act of spitting, even, seems to produce more and swallowing it is nauseating. With these admissions,I suppose the medics must have recommended kesostix? My usual list of recommendations include the ice lollies already recommended, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit esp. peaches and pears, ice cubes, soda water, Elderflower water, lucozade, sips of chocolate milk (maybe soya), jelly, a tea made of freshly picked mint if you have a garden (I keep forgetting that one), slices of melon maybe frozen, nibbles of crisps, cheap ice cream, Blondes' cuppa soup, maybe leek and potato soup if you can stand it (someone left a recipe but now I've lost it). I often sound chips too, but someone has just had an awful experience with those, it probably depends on the level of fluids you've been able to drink. Ah, and tonic water has also been good...
There was someone on here a while back who had a baby at twenty-eight weeks. She had it so badly she'd been on steroids. I was concerned all was well, but I never heard more; it wouldn't happen to be you, would it, as if so I should have said, 'Welcome back and I am so glad all turned out well with baby' but I suspect that was too long ago to be you.
Lemondrop09 That is an excellent post. It is very well put (and while I do not mix the two identities of Mother Hen and the other, I am a writer myself).
HaichM Sorry about bile run.
Hollyhop Any results? I do hope all is well.
Flossyfloss Sorry that you have been 'gingered'.
Melleebacca Does this man really have to stay for five days? I think that is imposing; you are recuperating, after all. Mother Hen says he should help put if so - a lot.
I was lucky in that a series of Acupunture treatments (they ate up much of my savings) seemed to help massively, done when I was really ill at eleven weeks. I haven't met anyone who has been helped as much by it, and I think that I happened to react well and a miniscule difference in placement of the needles makes all the difference between successful and not very effective treatment and few practitioners are that skilled. Because of this, except for an awful residual heartburn which was sometimes bad enough to make me vomit, I was more or less better by just under fifteen weeks.

I hope everyone is more or less coping. I wish I could advise further on employment law, but it has all changed since my day as a union rep...

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LucindaE · 16/05/2017 10:34

questabelletreetop Cross posted. Sorry that it seems to be coming on again. Have you get pre-emptive meds? I can't find your initial post. I hope the suggestions for food and drink below might help? As you are a veteran, you will have kesostix.
Lemondrop and everyone - as in the post below.

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Hollyhop17 · 16/05/2017 11:35

I've got it. They want me to finger prick myself everyday for the rest of the pregnancy. Can't cope anymore, I just want to die.

Lemondrop99 · 16/05/2017 11:47

Oh Holly Sad Is there any help they can give you for the phobia? Hypnotherapy or something? Although I imagine waiting times are terrible. Might be something worth looking into privately if you can afford it?

Lemondrop99 · 16/05/2017 11:49

How would you be if you closed your eyes and got your husband to do it? Would that be slightly better at all than having to do it yourself? What did they say about your phobia?

My SIL is Type 1 diabetic and has something permanently strapped to her leg which reads her blood. I know she has to pay for it but she isn't having to prick herself every day. Don't know if that would be any help?

HGpg · 16/05/2017 11:50

VomityRant - thank you for sharing your post - it made me cry! You have put into words so much of what I have/am feeling.

Holly - so sorry for this distressing news, it seems so unfair. Sending you lots of support.

HaichM · 16/05/2017 11:53

Oh no Holly. I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm sorry I can't do anything to help.

That was a wonderful post. Really sums up some of the struggles and emotional trauma of HG.

My mood has plumeted since this morning even though I haven't been sick again. Having a little cry and then going to try and do something productive. I feel bad feeling so sorry for myself when many of you are going through worse but I'm feeling useless, like I'm letting everyone down and full of worry about what still might happen and how will I cope for another 11 weeks.

Hope others are having a better day today

BeautifulLiar · 16/05/2017 12:19

Haich try not to think beyond today. The only way I can cope is by never thinking about the future... Just taking a day at a time. I can't face the thought that this will be for another few weeks x

HaichM · 16/05/2017 12:19

Oh and we still don't know about the mortgage. Found out just now it might be another 2 weeks before we do, so that's another thing on my mind and something else to worry over.

I was told no news is good news when the mw took bloods and sent urine off but how long do i wait before I assume I've hit the no news bit?

pippanippa · 16/05/2017 15:46

Wow, lots to catch up on, it's been busy, will get reading. But in the meantime it's been a better day here, started the other medicine in combination with the meclizine. Either it's working or it's just a coincidence, but I've kept more food down and am starting to feel less dizzy which is nice! Thanks for the tips re: hot water bottle, I tried that followed by a bath last night and it did help a lot. Will read properly in a little bit and post again.

Oklahoma · 16/05/2017 15:53

Great post Lemon totally bang on.

Holly that is so unfair. How many weeks are you now?

Haich one day at a time. Sometimes one hour at a time. You know the drill. Do not think about how long there is to go or you'll just despair. You will get there. And it sounds silly but the closer it gets in some ways it's worse as you are so tantalisingly close to relief but every hour feels like an eternity. Hang on in there.

Nothing new here. DH is travelling again this week so begging favours and struggling through with Oklette. GP said ondansetron does sometimes stop working and was very nice to me but there isn't much else they can do so I just need to keep plodding along. 13 weeks today. Is that officially second trimester yet?

Strength and sympathy to everyone I've missed. Struggling to keep up with everyone at the moment.

Mustang27 · 16/05/2017 16:13

Think iv just taken one to many stemetil.......should I be worried Shock

Honestly imagine trusting a HG ridden preggers woman to be in charge of pills

Annie1290 · 16/05/2017 17:49

Haich I'm exactly the same today.

Have taken today off after feeling so rubbish at work yesterday and not planning to go in for the rest of the week tbh. And all I can do is keep crying, I'm nearly 10 weeks and can't deal with this much longer, don't know how you ladies have managed all the way through. Holding onto the hope I will feel better soon but that seems so far away at the moment. Nausea is crippling and I don't know how to explain that to my family. Feeling so guilty that DH is having to do everything around the house. Thinking I might ask my GP to sign me off for a few weeks as I feel worse every time I go in and do a job I have to be in for. Hoping by then I might be feeling a bit better.

HaichM · 16/05/2017 18:31

Oklahoma: thank you. I guess today was just one day too many. 13 weeks is 2nd trimester. Well done for getting this far! I hope this week goes OK and isn't too much of a struggle.

Annie: sorry you're feeling so crap. Taking a few weeks sounds like a good idea. I was off for quite a while because even the idea of trying to work when i felt so rubbish made me worse. You need to be resting as much as you can. If I remember right, that 9/10 weeks bit is the worst. Try and find something good to celebrate every day and have things to look forward to. I have afternoon tea with a friend on Saturday to keep me going this week.

Holly and Mellee: how are you?

pippanippa · 16/05/2017 18:44

Oklahoma I am definitely counting 13 weeks as 2nd trimester, makes everything seem just a little better. Though I have purposefully not signed up to any of those 'your pregnancy by week' things as I remember last time they always told me that now I would start to 'glow'. Utter rubbish. Hope this is just a blip for you and the ondanestron kicks in again. Don't know how you cope with a little one alone at the moment. I can just about do the daytimes, but the mornings and bedtimes are entirely up to my husband at the moment.

Am caught up on the thread a bit more now, Holly that sounds awful, so sorry to hear and totally understandable that you feel low. I hope you're getting good support at home to help you, it sounds so hard.

Thanks for sharing the HG awareness post Lemon, totally true, cathartic to read!