Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
//sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
//cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[Melleebacca]

Holly - I get you. My house is far from the standard I would like, and DD is entertained by screens more than she should be. It's just putting your health over everything else for a bloody long time. I just keep remembering that the hospital food was the best food I've ever eaten.

Four - let me know how the soup goes. I'm quite a fan of potato and leek soup. Have to have soup myself today at a family lunch, chicken though, feeling a bit apprehensive but at least I know I can just eat bread if necessary.

Bit of a moan here. Trying to hold myself together, hubby is off to Asia for business next week for 10 days so will just be DD and I. And to make matters worse she's been up half the night, possibly teething so hoping that finishes before hubby leaves. Not sure I can cope on my own with HG exhaustion and a teething toddler.

[Hollyhop17]

Melle did you have HG in your first? I am honestly in awe of people who suffer with HG while looking after children. I dont know how you do it. Sorry to hear you're going to be on your own for a while. Do you have any other family members who can give you some support/help while he's away?

[Lemondrop09]

Aw Holly Sorry you're having such a rubbish time. I know how sitting around in a state of a house can drag you down. It's not a priority but when you stare at it. Could you get a family member or friend to help tidy up? Or maybe get a cleaner?

Four, I really like the idea of a traffic light system calendar. That will help me see if there's any pattern, progress and if adjusting meds is working or not.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about work. I was signed off from 6-10 weeks. Since then I've been working from home. Although that was very unproductive until this week when I cut out the promethazine. It's so hard to know what to do, I just can't work on it. I can't think, I'm a zombie. I've been managing to get some work done this week, but my nausea and sickness had definitely been worse since cutting that (even though I'm still taking odansetron). Seem to be in a pattern of throwing up in the evening. Anyway, I was stressing about when I have to go back to the London office, but luckily work aren't pressuring me yet (as I think they'd rather have me working from home than end up signed off again).

[CastleFeck]

Thanks for the new thread Lucinda. Sorry to see some new faces have had to join the ranks of the least popular club around.

Holly urgh sorry you're feeling down. If it's any help mentally I think I was worst from 24-28 weeks. It had been such a long time of feeling bad. Now at 39 weeks it's practically joyful and everyone else on my birth group is miserable and fed-up!

Anyway I'm being induced on Friday. Only 3 more days to go. Oil the drawbridge Lucinda!

[Melleebacca]

Holly - definitely had HG with my first, and it was worse because of trying to figure out what meds helped and also being a martyr in regards to taking meds. This time around I've wised up and took ondansetron from day one. I have family who can help, but they've all stretched themselves from helping out when I was at my worst in the first trimester. I should be ok while hubby is away, as long as DD isn't teething.

Castle - woohoo! Baby time. Good luck and smooth sailing over the drawbridge! You've done so well.

[Hollyhop17]

Thanks Castle, am very jealous your end is in sight! I am 26 weeks tomorrow and ots been awful since week 22 again. Think I'm so down because it did go away so I really thought I was done. Fingers crossed it does fade again.

I hope you have a smooth birth, but aftet surviving HG I reckon you can do anything! Best of luck.

[Lemondrop09]

Just a thought. I've had crazy dire breasts since conception. Now, entering week 15, these are finally easing off. Could this be a sign that hormones are settling and perhaps the sickness will ease around this time too? Or is this just wishful thinking and the two things are unrelated?

[Lemondrop09]

Dire?? Ha ha, I mean sore (thank you autocorrect).

[MagnumAddict]

Oh castlefeck that's fantastic you are so close.

Lemondrop there could be something in that! Fingers crossed for you.

Waves to all. So I'm on for a bit of hand holding if anyone is around. Today is my 20 week scan and I'm so worked up and nervous about it. I didn't feel this way with ds, I think it's because HG has been much worse this time and my bump is practically non existent. I still just look like I'm at the flabby stage and my jeans still fit which is making me feel like something is wrong. I had much more of a bump at this point last time. Coupled with all the 'oooooh boy or girl texts' I'm getting as though that's the most important thing. I know my family would love it if the baby was a girl and that is making me quite teary and resentful as though a boy would be second best. No one has said this of course and I wonder if it's because I'm in a low place that I'm being over sensitive. I really don't care what the sex is I just want the baby to be ok. Gah crying now

[Hollyhop17]

Well that was a waste of time. My GP cant prescribe ondanestron (sp) so needs to refer me to my hospital. She did show me the screen where it didnt allow her and said no one in South London is allowed to prescribe it. Has anyone else had this? She said that it would be quite quick 'within a week'. That doesnt seem fucking quick to me

Sorry to hear you're feeling so anxious magnum. Im sure your family will be pleased so long as its healthy. Just focus on that. Every pregnancy is different so dont worry about your lack of a bump. Look at it this way, you get to see your little baby today! Good luck.

[Lemondrop09]

Oh good luck Magnum. I hope the scan goes well and baby is healthy. I know how you feel, going through all this really does make you just want a healthy baby at the end of it all.

How frustrating Holly. I'd phone PSS and find out who is the specialist in your area and make sure you are referred to the right place. They told me a specific name of a HG friendly consultant at my local hospital. You can also ask about HG day clinics, you might be able to phone them and see if anything can be done? Do you have ketones?

I think it's likely your GPs computer system is simply out of date. It's recent guidelines that approve the drug in pregnant woman - hence why it can be so hard to get it because GPs don't know it's been updated and still feel uncomfortable.

My GP had a warning flash up on the screen. But he looked at the guidelines of printed off, looked online and consulted a book. After some cajoling, he was eventually agreeable. He seemed to be able to over ride the system? At least he certainly gave me a prescription. I'm really not sure your GP is right. I'd ring PSS to check and then probably throw some toys out the pram with your GP. You can't be expected to wait another week

[LucindaE]

Hollyhop Oh dear,I didn't know that about South London. I should have remembered that this does seem to vary from area to area. So sorry you have to wait. Sorry too, about the PPS counsellor crying too - it sounds to me as if she was possibly still traumatized herself though wanting to help others. But sometimes crying together can help you both? 'This Will Pass' and that's a promise. Of course you will not feel like this forever! It is extra hard if you are inclined to depression as people can get depressed with this anyway. It is hard on those who have it come back, particularly if it's only after a short respite.
MagnumAddict Oh dear, too. It's not nice when you dread the 20 week scan, and I can see that it can be worrying to have no bump - but that was so with several woman on here even later on. Maybe the position of the baby, the amount of fluids etc make a difference? I'm sure your relatives will welcome a boy or a girl. I felt just like you - I didn't mind either way, but If I'd had a boy I think my OH would have brought him up on the lines of 'Sometimes You Have to Fight to Be a Man' whereas as it was a girl, I brought her up with 'Sometimes You Have to Fight to Be a Woman'! Silly story - trying to make people laugh.
Melleebacca I do hope it isn't teething. Poor you as well!
Lemondrop I don't know either about painful breasts and hormones - but let's hope so. I should have remembered you're working at home; glad you don't have to do that London commute too often.
Castlefeck Happy news. All luck! I'll decorate the drawbridge.
On the Pink Castle, that is because my family used to have a Snakes and Ladders Board where the last square was a pink castle in clouds,and Hyperemesis being like a grotesque game of Snakes and Ladders - good day, up a ladder, bad day, get told to try ginger - down a snake and back two rows - I imagine all sufferers heading towards a
wonderful Pink Castle.

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Pastiemaid 12 June
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HollyHop17 20 July
whoate 1 August
HaichM 1 August
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JimmyJay Early August
Daffodil 11 August
SickRose 18 August
Pip1982 20 August.
Melleebacca 22 August
Mardybum2017 25 August
MagnumAddict 1 September
littlepooch 2 September
MamaBear 7 September
MrsK8541 15 September
MuvaWifey77 17 September
Lemondrop09 30 September
RubyReins 3 October
Heartburn247 23 October
FluteyTootey 26 October
mrsgembles 27 October
putput 17 November

[LucindaE]

Lemondrop Cross posted as usual - great advice. I didn't know that about a general update on Ondansetron.

[Hollyhop17]

Thanks all. I will ring the PSS back today and see about a day clinic. I havent been sick for nearly two days now but the nausea has really ramped up. I'm a bit worried because the actual throwing up has eased off they might not want to prescribe it at the hospital?

Lucinda, I felt the woman was crying because she felt sorry for me and knows it it feels like. It was sad, but a bit cathartic in a way.

My GP said she would call me by the end of the day so I will wait to hear from her and if the appointment is a long way away, Ill speak to PSS again. When I showed her the NICE guidelines she was a bit dismissive and said 'well they are national guidelines' which looking back makes no sense...

[Hollyhop17]

How odd I am the only one due in July!

[Lemondrop09]

Did anyone go with you Holly? I took my DH for support and initially my GP was quite resistant. However he sent me off to do a urine sample, and while I was out, DH said something which worked wonders. When I walked back in, suddenly the GP had come around to the idea. Weird. DH said he'd only explained that he was worried I couldn't cope. I found it easier to stand my ground and above the guidelines up the GPs nose with support.

I just had a monumental meltdown. Through everything, I have remained fairly calm. But today, a colleague emailed me to ask if I was ok. Turns out, I'm not. I ended up sobbing in front of my computer! Since trying to cut back on the promethazine, my nausea and sickness has been worse this week. Odansetron alone doesn't seem to be as effective. But the idea of going back on promethazine is just SO depressing, after I finally can think straight and get out of bed. I feel like I should up the promethazine again, but I just can't function on it, and I certainly can't get my work done. I just broke down at the idea of going back there, but I'm fed up of my sickness going backwards too.

People are telling me to just get signed off again, but I'm in a very precarious complicated work situation involving a new job (which I'm trying to hang onto) and the very real possibility of redundancy. Plus my employer had been so accommodating.

Sorry, just needed to vent. Maybe it's just pregnant hormones Roll on Easter break

[Oklahoma]

Sounds like rubbish days all round - hugs and strength ladies, hugs and strength.

I'm on a downward trajectory my all day nausea and occasional puking has turned into throwing up everything for the last few days. Off to the doc today for more meds and a lecture about ginger I'm sure.

But I'm 8 weeks today so only 32 to go now!! Small wins...

[Oklahoma]

Lucinda please can I join the due dates list - I'm 22 November

[MagnumAddict]

Thanks ladies, good news! Baby is healthy. I cried in the scan when I saw the heartbeat, quite embarrassing but it m sure she's seen it all before!

It's a GIRL!! I'm in shock! I even had a boys name picked out, I was so sure! Delighted though. Your story did make me laugh Lucinda

Only downside was I was sick after the scan on the side of the road as we walked to the car - grim!! Think it was as much to do with being overwhelmed as anything but didn't put too much of a dampener on things.

Thanks again for the support earlier. Wishing a better day for everyone who is struggling x

[Oklahoma]

Congratulations Magnum

[Lemondrop09]

Crikey, aren't we all a mess today??!! I really hope your GP doesn't mention ginger, Oklahoma

But huge congratulations Magnum! I'm so happy for you, I needed cheering up and your post made me smile Little Princess Magnum. I had to stop the car and throw up in the gutter after my 12 weeks scan. I'm going for a private 16 weeks scan next Sunday as we want to find out the gender, I'm excited, it's time we had a happy pregnancy related experience

[Lemondrop09]

Busy amusing myself on a meme creator....

[Oklahoma]

Oh Lemon that did make me laugh.

[TwoDrifters]

I may have to use that as my screensaver Lemon

[Oklahoma]

Success. I now have ondansetron and ranitidine and no one mentioned ginger!

What ondansetron dosage are you all on?