Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Second baby so I know the drill. Threw up once in labour last time, then nothing.

Oh and I'm not expecting to go into labour today, sorry to get everyone excited! Although DS was born at 38+4 so I really hope it won't be long. Not sure how people get to 40 weeks

40 + 10 days here for my wee one, if i hadn't had hg and spd I'd have bought a trampoline to get things moving lol.
I'm hoping you don't have long to wait.

Or 41+3 lol im a bit shit at this baby stuff .

Hmm iv not taken the extra B6 I can't see anything that puts my mind at ease so il hold off for a bit. I don't want anything that makes me vomit more.

Mustang - my body can't cope with B6, not everyone throws up with it.

Peace - DD came at 39+6. I'm just glad they induce here at 41+3, so I know how long I have to suffer to. But 37/38w would be marvelous please!

Catching up after a couple of days...

Peace: good luck, I hope it's not long to wait for you.

Haich: Hope all is well and eye tests etc. go ok.

Holly: How are you doing now?

On a positive note, isn't it lovely when you see a Dr who 'gets it'. I had a checkup today and the first question the dr asked was how the vomiting was, how I was coping etc - she actually cared. I could've hugged her!

Also, can anyone help with this question? I'm currently taking meclizine (like cyclizine) which is great in treating nausea but not so great at actually stopping me throwing up, and so I am still having some bad days, and sometimes struggling to keep the medicine down which gets into a vicious cycle. The Dr. has recommended I give metoclopramide a try (in dreaded suppository form). I understand metoclopramide works differently and am a little scared to try it in case the nausea comes back (I can just about cope with being sick, but really can't cope with all day nausea!). Does metoclopramide help with feelings of nausea too in your experience - and how quickly does it take effect (so I can switch back sooner rather than later if it's not working). As ever, lots of questions I forgot to ask the Dr!

I was also relieved to hear that there are actually other treatment options available here after all, but life is bearable at the moment, so I don't want to mess with things too much (Holly's experience of the side effects of ondanestron has made me cautious!).

Pippa - when I tried metoclopramide I took cyclizine along side it. I would check with your GP if that's a possibility.

Mustang A baby ten days late? That's awful; I hope this second arrives on time.
peaceloveandbiscuits Well, cheering you on for an early delivery after that sign.
Melleebacca That is bad luck. Can you get it in drops, or does it make no difference?

pippasnippa Great advice from putput. I am glad you found a sympathetic doctor, and it's great that cyclizine reduces the nausea, as so many sufferers find the meds reduce the vomiting but not the nausea. I hope that you can get an effective combination.

Haha yep he was a lazy one. Luckily he decided to come the night before my induction so I was relieved about that.

I'm wondering if I could take cyclizine with my stemetil as I'm really struggling with nausea but vomiting is relatively under control 5-6 vomits 20 retches over and above easily probably more I really should count lol. Makes me think if I could curb the nausea that would be far less.

Mustang That is still severe - twenty heaves is awful - and it is certainly worth asking. I've a horrible feeling that combination might be disallowed, but hopefully they can add something.

Some positivity today... I managed to shower and wash, blow dry and straighten my hair this morning without retching or vomiting everywhere.

I feel exhausted and like I deserve a medal but at least I feel a little more human (and less likely to scare small children)

Just had to share lol it's the little things.

Some positivity today... I managed to shower and wash, blow dry and straighten my hair this morning without retching or vomiting everywhere.

I feel exhausted and like I deserve a medal but at least I feel a little more human (and less likely to scare small children)

Just had to share lol it's the little things.

12 week scan was good. One small bear wriggling away. Phew!!

Hi All,
I am new to mumsnet, so forgive me, but I need support.
HG since 5w, 6 hospital admissions, no oral meds work, at 12w the doctor said to terminate or try last resort steroids as I can't keep doing this to myself. Depressed beyond despair. Steroids worked immediately when given IV, then packed off home taking 50mg prednisolone a day, along with metoclopramide 10mg x3, and cyclizine 50mg x 3. Now 15w and even on all these drugs the nausea is unbearable, and the sickness is slowly returning. Has anyone else had this? I am so terrified of it coming back, it's like PTSD!

Welcome to the club no one wants to be a part of HGpg that sounds utterly grim.

Everyone on here is going through the same as you although you do seem to be on the extreme end of things.

I'm on a combination of ondansetron and promethazine which broadly controls the vomiting but the nausea is the absolute killer. Most people on here find that it is rhe nausra bot the vomiting which is the real issue.

I unfortunately don't have a magic solution, we are all surviving day by day just like you but having other people who are going though the same really does help with the mental side of things.

Rant / vent / moan as much as you want we are here to support you.

So pleased you had a good scan Oklahoma. Hope you got a good pic.

The latest low point in a pregnancy which seems to provide new ones on a daily basis, was being sat in the dieticians office, having just wet myself due to how violently sick I was, still struggling with constipation and generally feeling uncomfortable whilst being taught how to take blood from myself 4 times a day. Today haa been traumatising. Turns out the GTT was not one, but two full on blood tests. I have a severe needle phobia, which this pregnancy has made worse so I had a complete breao down. They then refused to do the test saying I was too distressed so instead I have to prick myself 4 times a day for 3 days and then go back on Friday to see if I have GD or not. It just never ends. My husband is so stressed looking after me and worrying about the baby he has just been signed off work as well. Selfishly, I am so pleased he will be around, the isolation has been killer for me recently.

Sorry you've had to join us HGpg. You certainly sound like you have such a severe case. Sadly it is the nausea that kills you, I find it the worst to deal with. I find spending time with others, to a degree, quite helpful as the nausea always seems worse sat at home on my own. Like Oklahoma says, we dont have an answer for you sadly, but we do understand and we do care.

Thanks for the advice Putput, for some reason I was just a bit nervous about taking a combination - particularly as I feel incredibly lucky that the actual feeling of nausea is, mostly quite well controlled, but it is worth a try, will double check with pharmacy when I fill the prescription.

Holly that sounds awful, so sorry to hear. I can't imagine getting through a pregnancy with a needle phobia, especially with the the GD. I remember the test last time being a very difficult experience (without the needle phobia), purely because I was so afraid about having to fast and then drink that sugary drink, I was convinced I'd be throwing up constantly in the middle of the hospital and then collapse in a heap. Fortunately I was able to sit outside whilst waiting for the blood tests and the fresh air kept things under control. Great news on the scan Oklahoma!

HGpg, I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through, it sounds utterly, unimaginably horrendous. Have you got good support at home? It sounds like you've got good medical support already, but is there anyone you can just talk to about things? It's a very lonely place to be and it's totally understandable if you are feeling very low. I'm so sorry as I can't really offer practical advice, as I'm a much much less severe case (in that grey area of severe morning sickness really), but I do remember the feeling of despair from my last pregnancy and really feel for you.

Thank you for your kind words. From reading this thread I am not certain I am more severe than many of you, I think in many ways I have been lucky with the medical care I have, where the consultants have a thought of 'it doesn't have to be like this', but I am not exaggerating when I say I feel like I have been to the depth of hell, as I am sure lots of you can familiarize yourselves with. They are also making me see a psychologist as I have got so low, which does help. I feel so scarred from this whole experience, but am finding reassurance that some of you crazy ladies have put yourself through this more than once! One day a time, is all we can do.

Holly, it sounds like your suffering is unbearable - you must must talk to your GP/Consultant about steroids. It is another option out there to you. My heart bleeds for you.

Oh Holly! What are we going to do with you? I hope things settle down soon. It must be nice to have DH home, even though the circumstances are far from optimal.

Oklahoma, yay for the 12 week scan! It's lovely to see, isn't it? And the turn of the first trimester will hopefully mark some improvement for you. I know mine has got slightly more manageable each day from 14 weeks onwards. Got my anomaly scan in two weeks time and starting to get nervous about it.

HGpg, welcome aboard. Sorry you're having such an utterly miserable time. It's not fun at all, is it? If you haven't seen it, the Pregnancy Sickness Support website and hotline give fantastic advice and is well worth checking out.

As I creep towards 20 weeks, I'm hopefully for some improvement. I still haven't vomited since Friday, which is a record, although I wretched a bit yesterday. I am still totally stuck in my own personal circle of constipation hell. Going to take the bisacodyl tonight and hope for the best.

HGpg Welcome. Poor you, six admissions does mean a very severe case - and being put on steroids. It is very hard to bear. Some people find the mantra: 'This Too Shall Pass' helpful. There's always support on this thread, but also, I wonder if talking to ex-sufferer on the phone might be helpful - they are on 024 7638 2020.
After six admissions, I hardly need say my usual 'have you got kesostix'.

You may have tried all of these: ice lollies, soda water, ice cubes, sips of flat full sugar coke, Dr Pepper, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit (especially peaches and pears) , sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya) slices of frozen melon, tonic water, Lucozade, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream and nibbles of crisps.

Hollyhop Oh dear. OH must be stressed. How dismal that you must inject yourself; I wonder why they didn't do that test with the glucose drink which sounds awful, but doesn't involve needles. Lots of sufferers wet themselves with the violence of the retching - but it is embarrassing.
OnNature'sCourse Well done for that. It is very unfair that one not only feels awful, but staggers about looking unkempt!
Oklahoma Congratulations on happy scan news.

Lemondrop Cross posted. Good news about vomiting down. I hope that remedy works.
HGpg and everyone: as below.

Pippa: that's great about a dr who gets it and was helpful. It's so reassuring.

Onnatures: woo about the shower and hair straighteners and hope today hasn't been too bad.

Holly: how dreadful! I'm feeling quite grateful that my needle phobia isn't as bad atm (probably thanks to the multitude of cannulas and bloods when admitted) but it is one of the reasons I hope I don't have to have a GTT. I can't believe you've got to do it to yourself in the meantime. Hope it goes better and you cope OK

HG: i can definitely empathise and sympathise, I remember those feelings quite well from my first 16 weeks. I have been one of the lucky ones since then (HG wise anyway) and I will keep my fingers crossed for you. We are here if you need us and I'm glad you've got someone to talk to mental health wise. I second Holly's recommendation of visits with friends and can also recommend getting manis and pedis or going to the hairdressers. The pampering and sympathy helped me when I felt rubbish.

Mellee: i think she wants me to get my eyes checked so I've covered that possibilty. Then if I'm still having them, we can move onto other possibilities or worry proactively about pre-eclampsia if I still have proteins. I'm not dehyrdated and the headaches are different to the ones I was having before around week 16 but they could be work related I suppose. We'll see.

Have told work I'm starting my maternity leave at week 34 which is the week starting 19th June. I would love to do longer and have longer with the baby but I'm trying to be realistic. There's only so much pushing through and putting up with stuff I'm going to manage.

Finally saw the physio about my queried spd and i don't have it. I have DR and I've already forgotten the name but basically my stomach muscles are separating rather than moving out of the way, causing me to have pain when walking and moving and also why I've been having a lot of stitch-like pains in my bump, especially across the top. I've got some exercises to do to hopefully encourage them to go back together but have to be careful about over doing it.

Hope everyone has had an OK day and look forward to reading the updates.

Oh god ladies my wee one has come down with a vomiting bug since 12am last night. Not what we need, my heart breaks for him. My sickness has gone into overdrive too but I'm just ignoring it and my partner managed to sleep through it all. The joys, remind me again why I'm having another?