Fed is Best!!!!!!

[HotDawg123]

If you choose to breast feed - good for you
If you choose to bottle feed - good for you
But if you choose to be a breast feeding warrior and look at those who choose to bottle feed as scum then I hope you slip in dog shit tomorrow.

The amount of horrible women I've come across who are like this is too many now. And as I am heavily pregnant and have hormone rage it is really pissing me off.

Thank you for listening.

God Diana what a chip you have on your shoulder. Calm down.
I've FF and BF and the only judgement I've ever had is from FF Mums. I never judged FF as I've done it myself! I don't care how people feed their babies but most FF seem to have a chip on their shoulder that they want to project onto people that breastfeed. Fed is not best, breast is as the biological norm and I've always supported that, no matter whether I've been BF or FF at that time.

Thanks All. I will definitely pass on the advice. It makes me sad because she is embarrassed about asking for help. She won't even feed in public. But as its been pointed out so well on here, I'm an outsider so I know very little, therefore it's difficult for me to advise.

IC it may not be 'noteworthy' to you, but for example my SIL that has just stopped bfing, her toddler is quite 'high needs', and her 'commitment' meant she HAD to be home for bed time every night as he would only be fed to sleep by her (would not take expressed milk). The few weeks of tantrums and very sleepless nights was very tough for her.

Nope, no chip on my shoulder. You obviously haven't read my posts. Thanks anyway.

It's like any biological process isn't it? If you think about it in depth it's fascinating but on surface level
It's just how it work.

Like a seed when the first shots pop out. Crazy amazing but totally ordinary at the same time.

Katy bowmans "breast is breast" is the best line to sum it up for me

Why are you trying your hardest to take offence at everything then?

Yes IC it is genuinely fascinating! Very clever how it all works.

Ryan I have repeated quite a few times that there is a couple of particular posters I take issue with because of their snidey comments on here, and on another particularly emotive thread. Apart from that i haven't taken 'offence' at anything. I think the discussion is important. I wouldn't want bf mothers to be treated the way I have been treated in public for ffing. Again, I think you haven't read my posts.

I have read your posts. That's still the impression I get from them, including the 'outsider' turn of phrase. You are an outsider to long term breastfeeding because you haven't experienced it.

I do hope you keep that opinion to yourself.
Would really suggest you do have an issue with breastfeeding being best.

Yep. And the people that breastfeed and haven't ff are outsiders to that. Doesn't stop them carrying on about it though does it?

Are you Spoiling for a row? Because you're not getting it from me.

Who has carried on about it? no one has tried to say "oh but it's hard to wean them off the bottle". You can state facts that formula is not biologically best without having FF though. The same as you can say BF is a biological norm without doing it.

You really haven't read the thread have you? Like I have said MANY TIMES I said I admired mothers that do so because of experience of family members. There's nothing wrong with me saying that. I have never said it isn't the biological norm either.

Bottle feeding is awesome though

I wasn't saying 'all mothers that bf struggle to wean'. What I was getting at was that from, yes, anecdotal evidence, it does give me a sense of admiration for women who do that. But carry on twisting my words if it makes you feel better

www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/breastfeeding-support/

For diana and anyone else who needs it - links to find local peer support.

I was just about to ask you for a link! Wierd. I will pass it on, thanks All

And it's free aswell? Crikey that's good eh.

Gosh, this thread has really brought out the sanctimommies. Big round of applause for all of you judging other mothers. Props to you for being an ass.

Just out of interest. The posters who are comparing formula to junk food and making sweeping promises about the benefits of BF, can you link to any peer reviewed research to support your ideas about BF? What are you suggesting will happen to FF babies?

Knew I'd come across certain posters on here.

I FF my first. I'm BF my second. I have to say that I feel as though I've been allowed to join some special, exclusive club this time where everyone talks about how wonderful they are. I hate that attitude. I understand that BF sometimes needs encouragement as it can be hard but there are better ways to do that.

BF is the norm and should be treated as so. Not special, not wonderful, just ordinary. And if it doesn't work or if it's not for you, then that's fine too.

There needs to be better support from the NHS though. I have only breastfed this time as I got support from an NCT lactation consultant and paid privately for a tongue tie cut. And because I am much more confident the second time around. But the NHS has no money so there is little they can do to improve things.

There needs to be better support from the NHS though.

Breastfeeding support at its best is not a medical issue. Most good timely support belongs in the community, not the health service.

Can somebody clarify, can tongue tie be rectified on the NHS or is it always private? It seems common to go private on mn

Oh and all the benefits of breastfeeding are only an effect on chance (i.e. a lower chance of asthma, allergies, breast cancer etc). It doesn't guarantee anything. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence of that out there. I have plenty in my own family.

That wasn't meant to be an arsey comment btw, it just seems it isn't done on the NHS

Nip tongue tie won't be corrected on the NHS in young babies. Only if it posses a problem with speech in later years. My husband is 33 and still has his now!

DS had his snipped on the NHS three (yes three) times