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Fed is Best!!!!!!

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HotDawg123 · 26/02/2017 20:58

If you choose to breast feed - good for you
If you choose to bottle feed - good for you
But if you choose to be a breast feeding warrior and look at those who choose to bottle feed as scum then I hope you slip in dog shit tomorrow.

The amount of horrible women I've come across who are like this is too many now. And as I am heavily pregnant and have hormone rage it is really pissing me off.

Thank you for listening.

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BreatheDeep · 27/02/2017 11:51

I'm not getting into discussion with you Skerry. I'm another that remembers you from the mastectomy thread. Until you recognise how wrong you were then I have no respect for your opinion.

Diana - you can have a tongue tie divided on NHS but it has a waiting time. I was told a month. So I called a private clinic and was seen that evening. BF would have irretrievably failed if I'd waited a month. Oh and the NHS are terrible at spotting a tongue tie too.

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 11:52

They would not even contemplate cutting my daughters! It caused me so much pain! Eventually it snapped around 6 months when her teeth came through. The hv really helped me with latching her on and suggested I became a bf counsellor for other mothers in the same situation which I did.

skerrywind · 27/02/2017 11:53

amy- it's very dependent on your local authority.

We have a brilliant consultant at our local hospital who is happy to diagnose and snip tongue ties, will often do it the same day he is contacted.

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 11:56

Honestly I had to beg my dr to refer her. My poor dh can't even stick out his tongue as the muscles develop differently in tongue tied people. Dd can just about curl her tongue to touch her top lip now.
Saw the consultant and he said no, put your finger on it and try to snap it yourself! How stupid is that! I came out of that hospital in tears dreading the next fire boob latching! She was 6 weeks old, the pain and bleeding subsided but not I have nipples of steal 😂

Hedgeh0g · 27/02/2017 11:58

NannyOggsKnickers:

www.who.int/nutrition/topics/exclusive_breastfeeding/en/

The World Health Organisation in general has a lot of peer reviewed evidence of the benefits of breastfeeding over formula feeding. Which is not to say that feeding an infant formula in the correct manner is the same as feeding an older child McDonalds every day.

On tongue tie, the NHS does snip but clinics are often infrequent and they, in my experience, tend to err more on the side of not wanting to snip and often don't diagnose posterior tongue ties that private practitioners do.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:02

Nipples of steel 😂

That's a shame it doesn't seem consistent in the NHS

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 12:11

I hope the baby I'm carrying now doesn't have a tongue tie.

I'm too lazy to bottle feed, bottle feeding is such hard work! And people say it's harder to breastfeed. I agree though it is really difficult to wean to a bottle. Like I said before both my dd's would screw up their little faces in horror when the teat touched them, there was breastmilk in the bottle but they just could not figure out how to do it.

My hv called them booby babies. The midwifes tried to give a bottle in the hospital too when I had to go back to theatre for more surgery, they said there was no way of giving it.

Fussy creatures these small people.

Don't begrudge anyone for their choices with feeding. Totally up to the mother and a lot of the time, the child too.

KnitFastDieWarm · 27/02/2017 12:13

my baby had a double espresso and a fag from day one - was i doing it wrong?

i know lots of natural-term-bf mothers and lots of ff-from-birth mothers and everything in between, and without exception, every single one has had someone take it upon themselves to comment negatively on how they are feeding their baby. why do we do this to each other?

you know what i'd like? i'd like it if the only thought anyone had while watching a baby feeding - via breast, bottle, tube, whatever - was 'how lovely, a happy baby and mother sharing a nice moment'

but i guess that's too much to ask Sad

minifingerz · 27/02/2017 12:13

"Oh and all the benefits of breastfeeding are only an effect on chance (i.e. a lower chance of asthma, allergies, breast cancer etc). It doesn't guarantee anything. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence of that out there. I have plenty in my own family"

Actually that is true of all healthy behaviours. It is interesting that people feel they so often need to remind others of this in relation to breastfeeding but rarely for anything else. We don't go around saying 'putting your baby to sleep on their front only reduces their risk of SIDS, it doesn't guarantee your baby won't succumb to it' or 'not smoking in pregnancy won't guarantee you avoid having a growth restricted baby'. Why e do we feel compelled to do it with breastfeeding? I can answer that. It's because most women in the UK with a baby over 5 weeks old are bottle feeding, and constantly trivialising the benefits of breastfeeding (in a way that no one EVER does in relation to any other issue connected to child health or development) is socially convenient.

Note: adults know that breastfeeding guarantees nothing. Or they would do if they had read the information that is out there for all of us to help inform our choices. And if they haven't read it, then why not? If they spent more time reading buggy reviews and trawling round Mothercare trying to decide whether to go for a jungle themed or woodland themed nursery than they did arming themselves with knowledge about the differences between breastfeeding and formula feeding, then they only have themselves to blame for a lack of understanding and a lack of perspective on this issue.

DeleteOrDecay · 27/02/2017 12:15

I do find it annoying that there is an assumption that if you do breastfeed you think you are superior

Definitely agree with this. I only ever had one negative experience from an ex 'friend' who bottle fed her dc and I never passed comment but she just did not understand breastfeeding at all which is fine but she also refused to accept people doing things differently to her. She wasn't a nice person in general incidentally.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:19

Lol bottle feeding isn't hard work!

helenfagain · 27/02/2017 12:21

I had the opposite experience, my family though breast feeding was crazy. My mum still comments that I breastfed my son too long (8 months)!

duxb · 27/02/2017 12:22

Breast IS best. That's been proven.
I struggled for over a month, spoke to various people including BF specialists, midwife, health visitor & gp. My baby was suffering. It turns out due to a traumatic, life threatening labour i wasn't producing enough hind milk and as such I couldn't continue. I had been cluster feeding, expressing and topping up - did all I could. It just didn't come in properly.

I was devastated I had to FF and a few people have judged me. However for me and my daughter it's saved our lives as we were both deteriorating at a rapid pace. I'm just glad she got some.

If I'm lucky enough to have another baby i hope for a smooth labour and I'll try again.

The issue for me isn't whether BF or FF is better - as BF is proven to be. The problem is the assumption that every FF baby is the result of a mother not wanting to try which isn't the case.

Lets face it - if you chose to FF and don't attempt to BF that's your choice but you have made it fully aware that it isn't as good for your baby as your BM would be. But you shouldn't be preached too about it as that's your choice.

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 12:23

Dianna just my personal opinion. I found it hard work. Making up the feed, measuring warming it up, when I tried formula that is. Just personally found it easier to get my boob out. But I'm lazy 😁

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:31

Amy I use ready to feed mostly, extra extra lazy parenting award for me 😬

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:31

(For the older one)

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 12:33

When daughter went on to a cup that's the only thing she would drink! Cost me a fortune! She hated cows milk, got a face full so many times.

Here's to lazy parenting, you and me both 🤣

bummymummy77 · 27/02/2017 12:33

Of all the many mothers I know in the States only 1 ff. And the earliest people tend to stop nursing is around 18 months, most people here nurse until a minimum of two years.

I'm so surprised at Britain's statistics. And I've encountered some downright nastiness from ff Mum's when I return, still breastfeeding ds.

Trifleorbust · 27/02/2017 12:34

I love the juxtaposition between posts saying "No-one judges anyone for FF, OP, what are you going on about?" alongside multiple posts smugly intoning "breast is best".

I am lucky to have been able to breast feed, as that is what I wanted to do. Hearing "breast is best" still makes me want to punch someone.

bummymummy77 · 27/02/2017 12:34

Although this was such a goody thread designed to create unnecessary division that I'm actually annoyed with myself for posting.

RyanStartedTheFire · 27/02/2017 12:39

Breast is biologically best but formula is fine too. How is that judgemental? It's a fact!

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 12:40

bummy I fed both my dd's for 12 month bf, dd1 went on to cows milk after and dd2 on to ready made formula in a cup.

I received so much attitude when I was bf I didn't want to go out. I was feeding my daughter in a breastfeeding friendly cafe under a bf cover, Inman approached me and told me to stop as his son was looking. I asked the man if he explain my daughter is having her lunch and he couldn't see anything anyway. He shouted at me that I should leave. Luckily the kind manager overheard and asked the man to leave with his son as it clearly stated on the door that the cafe was bf friendly. He gave me a free coffee and a cookie to say sorry for the customer being so rude to me.
It's on the news all the time, it really does put people off bfing.

It is a comfort thing for a lot of new mums too. I'm very self conscious myself I would try to feed before I went out to avoid people staring. If my daughters didn't hate having a bottle I would have expressed and fed them that way when out but they just wouldn't take it.

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:43

Amy I've always wondered why they prefer it, I think maybe it's sweeter? I'm not sure

DianaMemorialJam · 27/02/2017 12:45

I'm really sorry to all the women that are worried about judgment on breastfeeding in public.

Is anyone getting the feeling that we get shit no matter what we do?

AmyB1986 · 27/02/2017 12:45

Diana I thought the same thing too. Maybe the powder leave like a residue in their mouths or something? I tried to trick dd but she was just too clever. Made half powder and half ready made, she bloody new what is done! Little bugger managed to get the lid off the cup and tipped it all over my brand new lounge carpet! The smell was awful

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