Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Iamserious: I'll keep that in mind in case my fatigue doesn't ease and will ask for blood tests when I see him next. In the meantime I've restarted my multivit in the hopes that works.

Blondes: I think it was you who was reassuring me about weight gain. Thanks again. I have actually lost 2.5kg this week but I'm mentally convincing myself that all is well, even though the amount of of bloating I've been having makes it hard to feel baby moving or general location.

So...my weekend away with the surprise location turns out to be London. We're at s gig tonight for DH and then the other 2 days are for me. Tourist attractions here I come

Hi Mardy,

So sorry to hear you've had such an awful experience... what I failed to mention is that I have two scientific degrees behind me (biomed BSc and cancer cell biology MSc), so if I end up with someone as unsympathetic as you have then I'm fully armed and prepared to go into battle. Fortunately I didn't have to, but I would advise you go back or book a telephone consultation. Inform them that you are well aware of the fact that cost implications often prevent them from dolling out expensive medicines, but that it should be a top priority for you during your pregnancy to have access to medicines that you urgently require to prevent hospitalisation, which will put a bigger financial strain on the NHS, regardless of whose pot it is coming out of. The doctor is green - he won't have wanted to go above and beyond the advice of his senior, so I'd recommend you book an appointment with the 'top dog' at your surgery. Monetary concerns should come second to the hypocratic oath that they vowed to adhere to when they entered the medical profession!!

Unfortunately, clinical commissioning groups like to slap sanctions on the healthcare providers in their area if they don't adhere to the financial guidelines set out for the year, which sadly means not prescribing expensive medicines where they can avoid it - many still see hyperemesis as a gross exaggeration, which is how they justify not prescribing those meds... Disgusting, I know.

I think pregnancy sickness support may also be helpful in getting you access to meds (please don't quote me on that though), so might be worth getting in touch to see if they can help in any way... you just need to arm yourself with enough information so that they can't just fob you off.

Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help, and that goes for all you ladies! Xxxx

Haich - feeding issues do suck, it's never nice. Thankfully they are now a distant memory. Enjoy your weekend away, hoping you aren't scuppered by the hg monster

Mardy - I am definitely in the same boat with the unsympathetic doctors, some have been appalling. I was glad to be able to get an appointment with my fave gp the week before last but even as lovely & helpful as she is she wouldn't prescribe anything with cyclizine without advice from the midwife despite going armed with relevant research. But the mw didn't talk to the dr or ring me as asked. It's a tough gig to get help. I finally saw the mw yesterday and she was unsympathetic and thinks it's perfectly acceptable to be as sick as I am and said no other medication is used even though I pointed out it wasn't the case. The only hope I have is that I insisted on a referral to a consultant for it (I do also have another condition requiring consultant led care but hg should be reason enough) and I also asked to go to the hospital within the area that is known to have a good hg support process even though it is not closest (40 mins away). The PSS site should be able to help you find a consultant nearby who can help and then I'd suggest insisting the gp refers you.

@haich. Hope you enjoy your time in London

I am still amazed and shocked how many gp won't help with sickness medication :(

Just to reiterate my posts below to all who have GP''s who won't prescribe:
MardyBum2017 ... I think the only thing to do is to phone up Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7368 2020. They will have to phone you back, but they will, and they have been great at getting meds for women on here.'
It's awful that happens. As Kiia says, if you have an educational background with biological/chemical knowledge they will have more trouble in fobbing you off, which is so unfair.
Blondes Ha Ha about waddle.
Mellebacca That is progress!
I had a mild migraine yesterday, which I only mention because I found that taking some buccastem I had left over from an illness some months ago really helped the sickness.

Hi all

Really struggling with quite extreme fatigue. My dh is off this week so I slept from 10-10 this morning then had to go back to sleep at 12.30 until about 5 mins ago.

Should I be concerned about this in itself? My mood has been quite low so not sure if that is having an impact or it's because I'm still losing weight and have less energy.

I was tired before but this feel different.

It's my scan on

Sorry posted too soon.

It's my scan on Wednesday and I don't even ha a flicker of excitement. Even though I had HG with my ds I was still really excited for the scan. I don't know why I'm telling you all this, just to get it off my chest I think.

Also sorry this post has been all woe is me but I had a look back at previous posts and saw there was already really good advice given

Magnum - I felt the same way. No excitement for the scan before or after. Starting to feel movements but even that isn't exciting. I'm just wading through life till August.

Kiki - I have a BSc in Biochemistry, but still have had some awful encounters with medical professionals. Ive found it's more useful to know the system. Here you can't get referred to anyone for help until the second trimester essentially. And then the longer I go into the second trimester with no weight gain, the more panicked they get.

Magnum - I think it was Iamserious who said they were suffering with fatigue also and had proven to be vitamin D and B deficient which led to fatigue. I have started with some lethargy/fatigue recently to. Last Sunday was spent pretty much completely in bed. I am also still losing weight. I am thinking of askig for a blood test to check vitamin levels.

I'm afraid I however was looking forward to the scan as I wanted to know baby was OK and get an official date.

Waves to everyone and sends positive vibes to all.

I'm back in hospital and i've been advised to have an abortion before my organs completely fail.
I have a scan on wednesday (12 week) and I don't think I can go, I dont think I can cope with that. I just dont know what to do. I have a 2 year old I can't even chance leaving her without a mother.
This is so horrendous.

Blah - I'm so so sorry. That's a very difficult thing to process. I hope you're surrounded by supportive people. Xx thinking of you 🌺🌸🌼

Thanks for the reply at this hour.

Just my partner, he's sort of relieved because a few times he thought I'd die
I can't tell any one else because of the "it's just morning sickness / the princess had it, she coped" attitudes.

Sorry I name changed and forgot...

Blah - no worries. I'm in NZ so it's dinner time/puke time here.
Have you been able to get a second opinion? With my first pregnancy, I read heaps of HG blogs from mothers who were hospitalized the whole length of their pregnancies and managed to have healthy babies.

Blah, I'm so sorry, that is so awful. What treatment are they giving you in hospital, and is it helping at all? In my second pregnancy I was in hospital 3 times and the usual anti sickness drugs didn't help me. Metrochlopromide actually made things worse. In the end omeprazole (stomach acid inhibitor) helped me so much. I guess it only works for some people but if you haven't tried that yet it could be worth a go.

@magnum. Sorry you aren't looking forward to scan. Hope it brings you reasssurnce

@blah :( that sounds extreme to me. Can't they hospitalise you /give more fluids

Just popping in to say Hi to the new people and to Blah. Blah, I would also ask for a second opinion. My friend had HG very badly and was hospitalised for large parts of three pregnancies (her MIL ended up moving in with them to do childcare as she obviously couldn't do anything even on the few days she was home). I don't really understand why they can't support you in hospital if needed? I obviously am not a doctor but I think they should at least explain this to you before asking you to make such a serious decision when you have already been through so much (unless you want to of course which would be totally understandable, but it just feels like they are pushing you into this without exploring options). Can your DH do this pushing for you? I'm sure you are in no state to find the energy to be bolshy.

All fine here. Have had Thursday and Friday off work and more sleep. Not working other than a couple of meetings next week, and it's definitely helping. I'm still nauseous in the evenings particularly, but bearable, and being able to nap in the afternoon makes it all more doable.

Sending love to everyone but especially Blah. Xxx

Anyone else in early days fed up? Only 9 weeks in and I already feel like I've forgotten what it feels like to feel 'normal'
If I'm hungry it makes the nausea worse but when I eat my stomach just feels all acidy and like its still starving, just can't win. Sorry just needed a little moan

Hi everyone. I am currently 8+1 weeks pregnant and have been suffering in silence with sickness for the last 3 weeks. Finally gave in and went to the GP on Friday who sent me to A&E and I ended up on a drip to rehydrate me and told I had hyperemesis. I'm due to go back to work tomorrow after half term and have no idea how I am going to cope, I'm a Reception teacher which is challenging and demanding when you're not focussed on keeping the contents of your stomach inside! Any tips on how I can handle feeling this ill and still hold down a normal working life?!

Hello... sorry for the extended radio silence, going back to work rather knocked the stuffing out of me. Spent the first couple of weeks sleeping all evening. It was effort to get up and wee, mumsnetting was well beyond my capabilities. The last couple of weeks have been easier. In fact, I had a vomit free run of eight days, not even a bile run! This run was ruined when I decided to drop all the cyclazine last week. I'm back on it now and back to bile runs but I'm hopeful that once the cyclazine tops up in my system properly they'll stop again. Blondes think I'm going to join you on cyclamen until the bitter and glorious end :)

24+5 weeks today... thanks for 20 weeks of support everyone!

My half term resolution was to come back here and check in and check on all of your lovely green shaded people. Sadly I can see lots of new comers, some who are really suffering.

Mulberry are you still throwing up/nauseated? If so, just get signed off. I know the teacher guilt will be at play (I'm a teacher too!) but it will be better for your class, and less disruptive for the children, and the school, to have a substitute teacher for a few weeks (or, if you're particularly unlucky like me, months). The world will turn without you and you can focus on getting through one day at a time.

My goodness, BlahBlahBlahEtc, I so agree with others that you need a second opinion. That's all you need to say. There have been women on these threads hospitalized for weeks Kalidasa was one - ICan't was another - who were terribly ill. I think the second was offered the option of an abortion - but nobody said it was unavoidable. Also, if you are due for your booking in appointment, surely it is late and you will have to go through a labour, which is far more trauamatic than the early ones. I may be wrong,but I believe so. Thinking of you. Do keep us informed.
Mulberry2624 Welcome. Excuse my seeming off hand,
usually I welcome newcomers first thing, but that was an exception, with that terrible news from BlahBlahBlahEtc). What meds did they put you on? As others say, to honest, it is very difficult to work with this in the first tri at least, and being a Reception teacher must be exhuasting. I do think you need to ask for a sick note for a few weeks. As fourcorneredcircle* says, you are bound to have 'teacher guilt' but it really can't be helped.
Have you got kesostix from a chemist or online to check on the early stages of dehydration if you are vomiting or unable to drink much? How do you find ice lollies, sips of flat coke, elderflower water, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit (especially peaches and pears), cuppa soup, slices of melon, cheap ice cream, nibbles of crisps, or sips of chocolate (can be soya)? Those are favourite recommendations. Disgusting diet, I know.
MagnumAddict What HaichM says of IAmSerious's fatigue sounds worth investigating. It is very hard not to get 'run down' with this scourge.
sprite25 I think most find it particularly hard to bear in the early stages when you are at your worst and there is so long to go. The scan may hearten you when you see it. Try and get by day to day, and much sympathy.
Great advice from LightTripper - Glad you aren't overdoing it - Blondes Mellebacaand everyone.

Mulberry - I'm so sorry to say this, but for me anyways, weeks 8-13 are my sickest, and then after being so bad for so long the recovery is never ending (but somewhat functioning around 20w).

Four - it's hard to comprehend being medicated the whole way through, but as you now know, the meds are helping. I came off them during maternity leave and managed not to relapse, the sleeping and resting continuously helped.

Light tripper- you're so close! Crossing my fingers that baby doesn't make you wait too long. Hard enough having HG till the end, going overdue would just be icing on top. In NZ, they induce at 10 days over, so I counted down to that.

Sprite - I've been fed up since 6w. Hubby keeps telling me to look at how far I've come, not how far I still have to go. His optimistic BS is something I would say, but I'm too far down the tunnel to really hear it at the moment.

I'm getting better, but the recovery is so long! I still vomit just as much, but I don't get worn out from talking as much. Still bedridden though. Friday this week is my first day alone with DD since about 6w ago. Have to start figuring out how to look after her again as the visitors and help start going back to their own lives in March. And need to be as close to fully functioning by April when hubby goes on a business trip.

Waves to all! 🌼🌸🌺

Sorry, I don't know why part of that came out in bold, can't have put in the second asterisk - it looks as if I'm shouting!

@four. Def worth staying on 3dose. I do try and come off it every now and again and then am sick and takes a few days to get pulls back in system

Yet again I seem to have a double prescription of cyczline so now have 3mths spare - way past bubs who will be here 5ish weeks ekkkkkkk

If anyone needs any cyczline or doc won't give them any let me know and will send you a months supply while you argue with them

Teaching. Bloody hard when I'll. might need to be signed off