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Bleeding at almost 8 weeks

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Greenglassteacup · 16/10/2016 20:49

Not much but it's there when I wipe and it's red. This has happened a few times, at around the time of implantation & then at weeks 5 and 6. Never much but there nevertheless. Mild cramps too. I've got a bad feeling this time

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:12

What can I do?

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LHReturns · 19/10/2016 12:18

How else can they receive the scans? By email? By fax? Are all their systems down?

Totally ridiculous - the notion that your treatment will be delayed because of an IT problem.

What is the deadline for getting the scans and reports to the Clinic?

LHReturns · 19/10/2016 12:20

Your scans and report MUST be backed up somewhere. If you turn up at the EPU and make an enormous emotional fuss - might someone be able to access this info somehow?

They must have back up power.

LHReturns · 19/10/2016 12:21

Could you go and get ANOTHER scan and report done this afternoon? Can the Spire Clinic suggest somewhere?

I know ridiculously expensive but you are desperate.

Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:28

It's not the epu it's a private screening centre. They said they have a power cut so cant even email. I have asked spire if i can be scanned there but they dont think it could all happen in time for the op to take place on friday. It is fucking ridiculous

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:29

Spire say they need the scans & report at my consultation tonight

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:30

I've got meetings that I can't get out of until 4pm

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:31

Have so had enough of all of this now

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LHReturns · 19/10/2016 12:33

Ok - so seems two possible options:

  1. private screening centre gets power back before tonight and email your details to Spire in time (could the consultant appointment be pushed back to tomorrow if necessary, without you losing your Friday surgery slot?)
  1. You get another scan and report done somewhere

Remind me where you are OP?

LuchiMangsho · 19/10/2016 12:40

Having been where you are (began bleeding the night before my 12 week scan), basically they will want to scan you again to make sure that the pregnancy is not viable (i.e. your dates are not off). This SOUNDS ridiculous but is actually the established practice. Having discovered a MMC at the 12 week scan, I eventually had a D&C at the point where I would have been nearly 14 weeks at which point they confirmed the miscarriage. It was a long wait. My son was 3 and a bit then, and I really struggled to look after him as well, with my emotions everywhere.

For the D&C I was under GA and it was over very quickly. I had the operation on a Thursday, stayed home on Friday and was back at work on the Monday.

You have my utmost sympathies.

LHReturns · 19/10/2016 12:43

Luchi, I am so sorry that happened to you at 12 weeks. It must have been so very hard.

Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:54

They have emailed me the scans & the report ( says 'likely to be a failed pregnancy'). The scans show nothing but an empty sac & a yolk. Surely that will be enough for spire to go ahead with d&c?

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 12:56

I've has two sets of scans, 10 days apart, most recently at 8 weeks.

Luchi I am sorry, it is awful

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LHReturns · 19/10/2016 13:08

I predict you will need scanning again for final confirmation before surgery but I would assume now you have the earlier reports then Spire can do that for you?

Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 13:11

God I hope so because I want this done before next week

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LuchiMangsho · 19/10/2016 13:57

So basically an empty sac could just mean for SOME women that their dates are wrong and that the foetus still has a chance. So he sac has to grow to some size (can't remember which) before they do the OP. I was scanned 3 times before it got to that place.
Thanks for your thoughts. I am finally, a year and a half later having mustered up the courage, nearly 15 weeks pregnant again. It never gets easier though. The one consolation I had during the MC was the number of people in real life who shared their stories with me. It gave me a lot of comfort knowing I wasn't some sort of freak.

Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 14:09

I will push for the operation this week on mental health grounds

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 14:11

I just can't wait any more. I've been having cramps this afternoon so maybe it'll come out of it's own accord. One more meeting to get through at 2.30 & hopefully I can leave at 4pm

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LHReturns · 19/10/2016 14:39

Please keep us informed Greenglass...always thinking of you.

Daisyflower2 · 19/10/2016 16:17

I had the same thing happen earlier this year - at almost 8 weeks. Started spotting which built up to heavy bleeding a few days later (sorry if this post is tmi). I was really upset leading up to the first scan as I had a feeling it wasn't going to be good news and my pregnancy were hormones all over the place. This was my first pregnancy and so didn't know what to expect.

The scan revealed an empty sac which was pretty devastating. I then had blood results a couple of days after which confirmed drop in hormone levels. I started to feel a bit better psychologically as at least I knew I was having a miscarriage, rather than uncertainty.

I had some bleeding for a few days, then three days of very heavy bleeding. I was still going to work and unfortunately had an incident in work after rushing to the bathroom with blood ending up soaking through to my clothes and had to go home. I felt a bit in shock after this. I went for another scan as convinced that this must be the worst of it over, but they said the empty sac was still there.

I took 2 weeks off work and doctor signed me off as I wanted to wait and see if the sac passed naturally. I asked if I could take a photo of the scan print on my phone as I was interested in what was going on. The first scan measured 36.5mm / 33.5mm. I found that over the next few weeks there were different scanning people every time and they don't really volunteer information unless you ask specifically.

I spotted on an off over the weeks, and some times of cramping, especially after exercise. There were a couple of times when I thought this must be it now, but it wasn't. I couldn't go on holidays or away for weekends for fear of bleeding and the passing the sac away from home.

I wanted to have a natural miscarriage, but every time I went back for a scan, the nurses were trying to persuade me to have a D&C or the tablets in hospital. Although the nurses were nice to begin with, I started to feel bullied after a few weeks as they kept saying that I could get an infection and that it was time to get things moving now as it wasn't coming out on its own. However, I pointed out that research says that you are just as likely to get an infection from an operation as a natural miscarriage so no extra risk. Also, the NHS leaflet says that you can opt to have a natural miscarriage for as long as you want to - there is no time limit.

I saw the consultant and he said that all they know is that the sac will come out eventually - but they don't know when!

So I went back for several scans over the next 10 weeks. Each time they said that the sac was still there and I was really disappointed. Then I started asking about the measurements again and I wrote it down. After 7 weeks the size had reduced to 28mm. Then 23mm at 8 weeks. I knew it most be breaking down as I was passing clots. However, the scanning people and nurses kept saying that the scanning equipment might not be measuring it accurately and they still wanted me to book in for D&C etc. I actually gave up having scans after this as I was so fed up with their attitude. I did a pregnancy home test at around 8 weeks and it said negative.

After another 2 weeks after the negative pregnancy test, I had really bad cramps while out in the early afternoon. I came home and went to bed. I then had waves of extreme pain, I felt like I was kind of in a trance and had lots of what felt like contractions. It took about an hour to push the sac out in the bathroom. I couldn't see it when it came out. Afterwards I felt immediately much better and I knew that was the end of it.

I phoned the hospital the next day to ask for a scan as I wanted to check it had gone and they said you can't come back as you missed your last scan and you've done a pregnancy test which says negative. I explained I had done this test 2 weeks ago and I needed to check! So they reluctantly booked me an appointment with the consultant and he confirmed that it had all gone - I was massively relieved!

Also whilst waiting for the natural miscarriage I had gone to an homeopathy, but not taken the remedy. I went to acupuncture. Talking with the lady helped me the most as she gave me faith that the body can heal itself and said what did people do hundreds of years ago? I also looked online and shopping and bought High doses of natural vitamen C (1000mg), raspberry leaf tea and Dong Quai. I also did some reading of Louise Hay and did meditation. I don't know to what extent these things helped, but I felt better knowing I was taking action.

I am pleased I followed through the natural miscarriage, even though it took 10 weeks, but it felt right for me. I was struggling to find anyone who had been through this, so thought I would share everything for other people who are in the same situation. It is not an easy route though. I had to carry spare clothes with me all the time in work and was afraid to use public transport.

It is not an easy experience and I wish anyone well who is going through this. Just be kind to your body and know you will make the right decision.

I am now pregnant again so hoping that this one is a goodun. I started trying again straight afterwards as it felt right. I had one period 25 days after the miscarriage so my cycle went back to normal straight away. I'm not sure that this is always the case with D&C. I got pregnant after the first period and you are supposed to be more fertile after a miscarriage. I'm in my thirties, but I'm not sure it makes a massive difference as loads of younger people go through this as well!

Sending lots of love x x x

Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 16:31

I'm sorry that this happened to you, your very graphic account is frightening. That is what I am frightened of at work, a massive flood in front of everyone.

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ParForTheCourses · 19/10/2016 18:42

I'm so sorry green. Definitely push for the d and c. They put you under quickly and it's just after bleeding (so heavy get maternity pads and raspberry red leaf tea to help it) and pain- emotional and physical.

So many awful experiences, do many sad losses.

LHReturns · 19/10/2016 19:41

Greenglass , how are you doing? Have you seen the Spire consultant, and do you have a plan in place for Friday?

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Greenglassteacup · 19/10/2016 20:44

Hello All Flowers

I'm home now. I'll be having the d&c under general as a day patient on Friday afternoon. I'll have to go to the nhs hospital the day after for anti d injection. Consultant was very kind. Feeling very sad. Thank you all so much for talking to me, you've been wonderful

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LHReturns · 19/10/2016 20:49

Oh Glass I'm glad Friday is fixed.

You must feel so sad, and you have some hard days coming. I hope your DH and lovely daughter smother you in love and comfort while you go through this cruel process.

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