Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Wetting myself is also standard it's so embarrassing !!

LH Peaceandlove and user you have my solidarity. I am also wallowing in my own filth. It just seems so bloody typical - there have been days where I have struggled with enough wee for a kesostix and then I vomit and the floodgates literally open. It wouldn't be quite as humiliating if it was a bit of a damp pants scenario but I regularly soak through knickers and trousers and leave a puddle as well! As if the constant sicking wasn't unpleasant and undignified enough.

Will have to try the kneeling LH - I think that the stand and squat (I was going for more of a legs apart,second position stance) must be the worst for those of us whose poor bladders have had enough of the violent retching.

I don't often make it to the toilet so have to stand on tip toes to vom in the kitchen sink. I'm not tall enough not a position I recommend.

Welcome back Cake, although sorry to hear the sickness is trying to stage a comeback! For those having trouble with weeing while vomiting: someone on the thread last year swore they had nailed a position for this. I can't remember all the details but it involved kneeling at the loo and somehow pressing the heel of one foot firmly between the legs (which also have to be pressed tightly together). Lucinda, can you remember more? It was Eallison's ingenious scheme, iirc.

Good grief LH, what a day eh? That unwanted Ondansetron cold turkey sounded pretty unpleasant. Hope things are looking up a bit now.

It is indeed great to have Boobs and Iamserious back again. That story about your GP had me all fired up again, Iamserious. Considering you've been taking Ondansetron, I'd have been tempted to say, 'Thanks for suggesting ginger biscuits, but considering I've been taking meds usually prescribed for cancer patients, I think it's unlikely that baked goods are going to have any effect.'

Mimosa, HG and norovirus under one roof does not sound like a good idea! Much sympathy.

Nerr, glad you're stabilising on the cyclizine, and lovely that you got to hear the heartbeat.

Four, how did you get on with the Capri suns?

I wonder how South is doing? Cheery greetings to all.

Overdid it a bit with the Capri suns... brain freeze followed by still cold purple vomit. In hindsight I maybe should have spaced them out a bit more... had another since with no issues :)

I can't believe how many people are having ginger biscuits suggested by HCPs... saw my GP on only the second day of extreme vomit and he immediately gave me drugs. Bit worried about seeing the midwife next week now. Hope she's a good'un... not sure how I'll react when I'm weighed if she suggests baked goods to replace the stone I've lost. I know that if she suggests fruit and veg I'll vomit just thinking about it. Queasy now. Bleugh.

Oh yikes I too have wet myself with the retching - so disgusting. Cannot wait for it all to be over. I'm due June 14 so months and months to go :((

Oh dear Four, sorry to hear about the Capri sun incident. Hope your midwife is nice - mine has been lovely, especially when I cried and told her I had barely eaten any fruit or veg and struggled with my pregnancy vitamins but was doing well with battenburg cake. She told me to keep going with whatever I could.

Mimosa sorry your part of our inauspicious weeing whilst sicking club. Time does seem to go so slowly on the bad days (of which most are for HG sufferers!). I have taken to chanting 'This too shall pass' between retching which helps me marginally emotionally.

Hi ladies just popping back to say hello from the other side! My daughter is 3 months old now but hg nearly pushed me over the edge. You are all doing so well to get through each day right now- eat anything you can and make sure you get good medication. It is all worth it. I got so many comments about how well I looked post birth basically because I had been so ill all pregnancy. You are all super heroes. Hope this thread helps you as much as it did me!

Hi can anyone on ondansetron please tell me the name of the suppository or laxatives used for constipation !? I am pretty desperate do I need a script for this ?

Lovely to hear from you Ickle! 3 months already! My DD2 is going to be 6 months tomorrow. The time post-birth seems to accelerate wildly compared with the way it drags during pregnancy.
User, you don't need a prescription for the glycerin suppositories. You can buy them cheaply off the shelf in Boots or any pharmacy. Some chemists can be funny about selling them to pregnant women so if you look pregnant then you can ask someone else to buy them for you. But they're used on ante-natal wards so they are perfectly safe. One woman on here resorted to buying a home enema kit (like anything else, you can buy them online from Amazon!) for relief from Ondansetron constipation. Good luck!

So nice to hear from you Ickle - hurrah for being on the other side!!!

Re: weeing, do try pads for "sensitive bladder" (Tena and Always do them). Although they look really flimsy I've found they hold a surprising amount (they get quite heavy). Other than that I think all you can do is wee often so there hopefully isn't too much to come out but then when you're really bad with the sickness having the energy to make it to the loo isn't a given is it? But maybe a pad together with toilet roll could do the trick?

Just reordering the list to make it date order ... sorry, Marie Kondo made me do it...

Updated due date list
Lucy 15 December
Light 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
LHReturns 1 June
Boobs 6 June
Peacelove 9 June
Fourcorneredcircle 11 June

Goodness, this thread has been busy! I've been scribbling notes for half an hour. Welcome to bloopbleep I so agree wth others, do go for meds. That is absurd advice, woefully outdated. If they still refuse, then do phone the Pregnancy Sickness Support number on 024 7638 2020 . They will have to phone you back, but they will and they have helped so many women on here. How are liquids staying down? Are ice lollies, or ice cubes, soda water, elderflower water, sips of coke, the juice of tinned fruit or chocolate milk shake any good?
peaceloveandbiscuts Sorry, I called you 'peach love and biscuits' before. Again, I so agree with others. Ridiculous medical advice! Don't try and tough it out. If there isn't another doctor at your practice, do phone
024 7638 2020 and again, they will phone back and advise you about getting meds. You shouldn't have to suffer like this.
MotherofPearl and everyone about wetting yourself when puking, I was just the same. That position was, I believe, invented by Onceameeralwaysameer and greatly advocated by eallison as you say. I think you have summed it up pretty well. I was a great whipper off of knickers too and pee-er on the floor, too. I actually did wet myself in public once - in a Public Puking Session - where you can't exactly do that- and it showed through the back of my dress . Anyway, at least urine is sterile, that's one thing.
NerrSnerr Glad you don't feel too bad. I hope toddler naps?
Blondes Glad you feel a bit better. Good advice, and from MotherofPearl.
icklekid How lovely of you to come back to encourage others. Baby is three months already! I'm glad the thread helped you; I remember you had an awful time.
IAmSeriousAndDon'tCallMeShirley Sorry you lost us - can they add cyclizine to the ondansetron, as that has helped so many people as a combination? I can't believe someone medically trained could advise ginger biscuits as well as saying you may need admission. You were very restrained. How are you now? What do the ketones measure?
ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets
I am so sorry you were re-admitted, but glad you feel a bit better.
I well remember that tiredness. I never know how people can work with this and that fatigue.
Allabouthecake16
Sorry you feel bad again, and have a cold to spoil your holiday even more.
Great advice from others. I think friends who are disgusted at peeing are very squeamish. How do they endure giving birth, I wonder? Goodness knows what they would make of some of the things we discuss on here.
fourcorneredcircle
I am glad your doctor was sympathetic and prescribed at once, anyway!
LightTripper Good advice, as ever.
LAReturns
Goodness, fifteen separate vomiting sessions of many heaves is truly horrendous! Yes, now you're not at the end of the list!
Updated due date list (to go on word; put in order by LightTripper thank you)
Lucy 15 December
Light 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
LHReturns 1 June
Boobs 6 June
Peacelove 9 June
Fourcorneredcircle 11 June

Hi guys
I started a message this morning, got distracted and it's gone. All ok yest, got home had food and went to bed so didn't check my phone. This morning I had a near sick miss brushing my teeth but recovered. Commute got delayed and although eaten a bit more now I can't get rid of nausea. Got some stressful things to deal with at work at it's making it worse I think. I'm just hiding upstairs in the loo now. I am employing lots of mindfulness to barely cope. I was going to join an EFT group starting tonight but it's an hour from work and hour from home so I cancelled this one. I am too scared to feel unwell at a strangers house. Plus I just only like being in bed.

Updated list!
Lucy 15 December
Light 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
LHReturns 1 June
Boobs 6 June
Peacelove 9 June
Fourcorneredcircle 11 June
South London 15 June

Hoping i don't stop feeling sick last as well!

The end of the list spot is occupied by me. Lucky, lucky me. 31 weeks and three days. Not that I'm counting.

I seem to be switching to evening being my worst time. The last couple of nights I get more and more nauseous until every single turn of my head makes me retch. This lasts until 2am. I'm still throwing up once or twice AM and feeling generally sick most of the time but napping on and off sees me through the day without major incident normally. Lying awake in the dark trying not to move is awful though.

X-post with South who has taken the last spot. This has cheered me up a bit. Sorry south ... especially since you're having a bad day. I'm very impressed that you've broached your teeth. I haven't managed that for... a long time. Dirty mare I am.

SouthLondon and Fourcorneredcircle Sorry you are going through the worse bit, when the end seems an age away. Sorry, SouthLondon I had a message for you and left it out of that great long post. But about tooth cleaning, I did find a kids little toothbrush and strawberry kids toothpaste helped. That strong mint taste of adults really nauseated me. At times I was so desperate, I rinsed my teeth out with a bicarbonate of soda mix, but you're probably not meant to do that because of the salt!

DH has a go at me if he notices I haven't brushed my teeth, but when you've got nothing left to vom, the very idea of sticking something in your mouth and forcing some more bile up is quite unappealing.
And I can live without him kissing me for the foreseeable

I feel like time passes so slowly when you could vomit at any time!

Had a stupid late lunch, aka lunch break now. Got a microwave paella that is a bit spicy and now feel awful. Spat loads out and being calm so as not to hiccup. I've got some pineapple to have, hope that stops the dread.... totes sad I am the last one lol. I feel like this is the reverse pregnancy group (which is up my street) and other people are annoying for glowing and being thin and 'embracing'!
I've got underlying anxiety and ultimately I just want a healthy baby in June. So then I feel guilty for hating every moment of it. Told my sister in laws today and they are all really excited. In the end I had to text because I was too sick to call. I had 5 mins of feeling ok at the bus stop so thought to just tell them. One (3 kids) said 'morning sickness can be hard', I asked if she had ever had it and she hadn't! sigh
Sorry to moan all. I used the be such a smiley annoying person lol

Just accidentally found how to make things bold .... you learn something new every day! First visit to midwife tomorrow. Will they be able to prescribe? Will they be annoying and suggest wrist bands and ginger biscuits?

Also .... before pregnancy who knew brushing your teeth could be so traumatic!

South, afaik midwives can't prescribe. If she mentions ginger we'll set the Ginger Hit Squad onto her. It's nice to be able to tell people about being pregnant, so glad your SILs are excited for you. I like the idea of this as a reverse pg thread! I think everyone who is/has been on this thread is grateful to be pg, knows it's worth it etc, but (quite rightly) hates pretty much every second of being pg! Nobody knows how utterly dire it is unless they've experienced an HG pregnancy!

Those struggling with teeth cleaning: the advice is to avoid brushing teeth for 30 mins after being sick (just rinse with water). If you can't face brushing or minty things, how about a non-minty mouthwash? I developed a dependency on Listerine Cool Citrus at one point. I grew to love the smell and sometimes used to just have a little sniff of the bottle to stave off a pang of nausea. Why does HG make us so weird?!

Hello

Four and South sorry you're having bad days.
Those of you due in June, this is the worst bit, wishing the time away quickly for you.

I had my 16 week check up today and all was well. Heard the heart beat and starting to feel flutters. You'll be at this point soon xxx

I might tattoo on my forhead 'don't mention ginger' ... but it would be permenant, and hurt, and be really small as so many words will so people would have to get close to read it! ... not a good idea.
Very worried about getting to hosp as the one near me isn't good so I've picked a better one but journey will be painful at 8.30am when I can't cope (I know it means it will also be painful in Labour lol). Did ok in the end. Only just eaten as stayed at work til half 8! So annoyed because everyone else went home and what I was doing was not my job. My husband turned around on way home to major divert to come to my work so he could commute home with me as was worried to be sick or faint. Need to mention feeling faint tomorrow but don't think it's blood pressure, more to do with being consumed with nausea.

How is everyone else?

New people, are you medicated?

Still unmedicated because we didn't leave the house today. Was still sick twice, though. I'll make an effort to go next week, but it takes all my energy to get through the days without the pain of having to try and get a GP appointment. Have to go out tomorrow afternoon and am steeling myself for the walk.