Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Rae So glad you had a good scan - can't improve on advice of others on that placenta thing. Your boss sounds really good. I'm glad people are looking out for you.
Lucy Glad you had a good time. Sorry about headaches and treachery.
SleepymrsE I hope the acid vomits have stopped.
icklekid That sounds nasty at 1.30 .It's so much worse at night.
SpecialStains Great advice. Hope you still feel okay-ish.
mrsmonkey And you too...
Apologies to anyone overlooked.

Oh, and icklkid A belated happy birthday to LO!

Crossing each other all over the place last night! Well was sick in night again was not impressed. I also had a panic wake up at 4am thinking where something I needed was...was too tired so did go back to sleep and found it easily first thing this morning! Ds kindly slept in until 6 this morning which was much appreciated! He is now asleep napping after refusing food so am also having a lie down catching up on rubbish tv! If he could have a nice long sleep that would be much appreciated. Then pop into town to keep us busy this afternoon!

Hope everyone is ok today

Sorry to hear you were sick in the night again ickle, if it is reflux related I would definitely recommend the omeprazole as it's helped reduce it considerably for me. That and not letting anything pass my lips after about 7.30 seems to be working. I slept awfully last night. DS woke up screaming at 11.45 and then I just struggled to get comfy so was awake for hours. Then up at 6.30 this morning. He's napping now so think I might try and have a short snooze myself!

Should not have gone into town 😥 fell asleep with ds and then he wouldn't eat so thought would feed him there. Well he wouldn't eat out so I spent £5 on nothing! He then wouldn't get back into pushchair, nearly got stuck in lift doors and they didn't have the watch I wanted to see. On the plus side I did pick up a lovely 2 helium balloon for him for tomorrow and a present from my granny which he will love. We are now both cuddled up on the sofa watching thomas! I don't even care! I love cuddles and need a rest!

Oh ickle what a rubbish day! Hope that you have a lovely day tomorrow with the birthday boy and are enjoying your cuddles.

Flipping heck Sleepy, I hope you managed to get a nap in this afternoon! I'm so much worse when I'm tired, sleep is needed to fend off the HG!

Well I survived 4 full time days this week. I'm broken! So glad it's Friday. Going into London tomorrow to see my old uni friends, we're meeting at a pizza express. I'm hoping I can pick at a salad or small pizza and not be sick! Only planning to be in the city for 5 hours tops, don't want to push it and have an hour on the train there and back.

Oh dear, I hope that icklekid and SleepymrsE have a better night tonight, and no puking for icklekid and for tommorow, a lovely day, with no lifts and refused food...
Rae Good luck for a great London reunion.
I hope everyone has a good night.

Morning all. Body seems to be prepping for newborn stage again as I'm waking every 2/3 hours 😵 So tired.
Had lovely day with DD yest (conscious it's one of the last days on our own together), usually DH takes over when he gets in from work but he went out last night (which I don't begrudge at all) which meant I did the whole day solo, and then DD wouldn't go to bed so I pretty much collapsed when I finally got her in cot at 8.30! I think it's related to the baby arrival, all week she's been refusing to go to bed. Aargh! Alas she seems to need less sleep suddenly, although I'm clinging to the afternoon nap for now!
Sickness and nausea still much improved, but in a lot of pain with pelvis. I guess i can't have everything! I'm managing to drink a lot more, and get v nauseous but I'm able to hold off actual vomitin which is good, although a little uncomfortable.
ickle sounds like you're in danger of overdoing it again!! Please rest!!!! Sorry to hear you've been having rough time. I echo recommendation to get an extra med for the acid if you haven't already. Hope you have lovely party for DS.
sleepy sorry to hear you've been struggling to sleep too. Can you rest more now it's weekend?
rae well done for surviving work. I hope you manage your meet up today - I'm worried you're trying to do too much too! (Sorry, stealing lucinda 's mother hen lines again!)

Waves to lucinda special Lucy and everyone else I've missed. I wonder how our newbies are getting on - esp erin as we were worried how you were coping in halls?

Happy Saturday to all x

mrsmonkey sorry to hear about the sleeplessness and pelvic pain! Must be torture. The situation with your DD sounds tough. I guess on the plus side you get more cuddles?

Just got home from London. Had a nice time with my friends but exhausted and sick now! Time for bed soon I think.

It's quiet on here today, hope everyone is ok

Glad you made it through your day in London rae, hope you had a lovely time even if you are now tired & sick.

ickle hope your DS's birthday went ok today and that you had less tantrumy behaviour.

mrsmonkey sorry to hear you're not sleeping great either. Fingers crossed for a good night tonight. As you say, I'm sure it's mother natures way of trying to prepare for the arrival of newborn. And on the plus side, at least when baby is here you'll be waking up not to throw up!

I'm absolutely exhausted. DS up again at 5.30 and we've had what feels like tantrum after tantrum to deal with today just because he's been so tired. Probably doesn't help that I'm not massively patient while I'm tired too. Plus lifting a screaming, tantrumy toddler off the floor is not easy with a big bump! Ah well here's to a better day tomorrow. In bed now and will try for a good night although the humid weather won't help any of us.

Hi everyone, hope everyone is getting through the day.
Rae I am shocked at your work place..I didn't think that was legal.

I've been on cyclizine for over a week now. I'm being sick 4 or 5 times a day rather than 20 now. Still not eating properly apart from porridge in the morning and a slice of toast in the evening. I have lost 1 and half stone! Currently 11 weeks and have been off work 3 weeks so far and can't imagine going back.

Feeling light headed the last few days and this morning got up and fainted. Luckily fell into the wash basket rather than the wall!

Oh dear Sleepy. I have zero patience when I'm tired too! It's my number 1 worry about parenthood. I've been known to cry because I'm tired before Hope you sleep well, despite the humidity. I can't sleep unless I'm covered so I think I'll have to dig out an extra flat sheet tonight, it's way too hot for a duvet!

Thanks Vixx. Unfortunately it is! They have however been logging my sick days as 'sick days' rather than 'sick days related to pregnancy' which is illegal I believe, so I'll keep that one tucked up my sleeve to use if needed. Sorry to hear that you've lost so much weight. Are you monitoring your ketones? I was finally hospitalised after I fainted, I seemed to make my GP take me seriously (finally).

Rae can you have a meeting with the HR department? They are taking the piss!

I had my ketones checked at my booking in appointment last week and was fine. No idea why I fainted but I will keep an eye on it.

mrsmonkey Well done on solo care. Sympathy about pelvic pain.
I too, am wondering about erin and everyone we haven't heard from again.
SleepymrsE Sorry to hear about tantrums; when they decide to stage a real performance going on and on, it's so exhuasting.
Rae I'm glad you had a nice time. It's a shame you're having to pay for enjoying yourself by sickness and exhaustion.
Vixxefacee I wonder if it's worth asking if they can give you something as well, or instead of cyclizine, as four or five seperate vomits a day is quite lot? Glad those ketones are OK. I suppose you have the famous kesostix now?
Waves to all.

Rae Glad you found that one out, about how they're logging your sick days.

rae would classifying sickness as pregnancy related have any impact on pay? Definitely worth seeking advice if so...just seems so horribly unfair that your having to push yourself so much and not good for you or baby

vixx not good that you fainted sounds like you might need something in combination with the cyclazine. Last pregnancy I was so happy with reduction in sickness not realising it was possible to feel even better! I still can't eat much more than that all way through pregnancy but doesn't leave me with much energy!

sleepy I have so little patience when tired. Hope ds sleeps better (sadly 5.30 start is normal here!) And tomorrow is a better day...I often tell myself it can't be worse! If nothing else it's a new day!

mrsmonkey how old is your dd? Hoping afternoon nap continues for a long time with 2 year old ds..at least another year 😉 sorry about sleep being so disrupted no fun at all.

So today was definitely better for ds than yesterday. I was sick in the night again so will be seeing gp start of next week to discuss acid/reflux medication. Had lots of family over- it absolutely chucked it down ubtil about 11 so didn't go straight out but ds loved playing with his toy kitchen! We then went to Thomasland which was a) exhausting for me and b) slightly disappointing as ds hated any rides- even short train one to zoo area! He loved waving at everyone else on them etc but screamed from moment got on, long wait until actually started and actual ride. It felt like at least 15mins was probably less than 5! He was so distressed and I felt awful as couldn't calm him! He hadn't really napped on way there so being tired wouldn't have helped! Sorry for essay anyway I've rested since got back and escaped to bed at 9.30 having been sick again. Promise I will take it easy tomorrow anyway...doubt my body will give me much choice to be honest...

Vixx I could ask for one but I don't think it will help, I might mention it when I have my MATB1 form and can request a meeting to discuss maternity leave, and bring up this meeting them. I'm also thinking I might ask for my boss or DH to come with me to any meetings, so I've got support and someone who can vouch for what happened if needed. Glad you had your ketones checked- might be a good idea to buy some ketostix so that you can check at home.

Thanks Lucinda. I think it was worth it but next week will be a struggle as a result!

ickle it won't change the pay now, but if there were redundancies in the future then they can legally consider 'sick days' taken as a factor to help in the decision making, but not if they are related to pregnancy. So I'll be making a point of asking for my HG days to be re-classified. I mentioned it to them the other day just in passing and they were quite dismissive- "we'd never hold those days against you, you don't need to worry". Unfortunately I don't feel I can trust what they promise me verbally any more. I hate being petty but I need to do the sensible thing to protect my family. Glad you're seeing your GP about the reflux! Thomas Land sounds exhausting, what a shame! Hope you have a calmer day tomorrow and DS is key quiet by his kitchen. Maybe this means he'll be cooking for you in a few years!

I haven't tried ketosTix. I might get dp to go chemist.
Anything to recommend I take alongside the cyclizine. I'm ashamed to say but I do not want to go back to work!

Hi there ladies, nearly at week 8 of 3rd HG pregnancy and I feel like I'm about to fall apart. 😥 Never really found a med that's worked from GP or EPAU but got prochloperazine this time and we thought great, not being sick but terrible nausea which I thought I could live with. Then 2 days ago, bang- all day sickness not keeping anything down struck. I have a 5 year DS and a 8 month old DD and I keep trying to tell myself it will pass but feeling quite down at the mo. HG with DS didn't pass until I was 18 weeks preg and only lasted till week 13 with DD but trying to cope with two kids now is soul destroying. Just looking to hear I'm not along I guess

Vixx, ondansetron has saved bacon, big time- I was prescribed it in hospital and the consultant did say that primary care professionals can be reluctant to prescribe as it's quite expensive, so you might have to fight for it.

Second welcome, sorry you're suffering again. I am in awe of anyone who can cope with HG whilst looking after other children. What meds have you tried before? It sounds like you need help if the vimiting has ramped up. Are you monitoring your ketones? Can you keep anything down? I found ice lollies were ok when I was really bad.

Rae, thanks for reply. Well over the years been on quite a few different antiemetics and all the usual homeopathic stuff too, nothing has worked. Cyclizine, promethazine, metaclopramide and now prochloperazine. I've asked in past for ondansetron but they wouldn't give me it as said I wasn't dehydrated enough! Never mind not being able to function or care for children and vomiting every hour. So I've lost faith in my GP and the hospital. And yeah big time on the ice lollies this time around, about only thing I can handle. Trying to ride out next few days to see if it settles again, if not then may be a trip straight to mat assessment.

Secondtimemummy84 Welcome. Sorry you are suffering so horribly.
As a veteran, I'm sure your monitoring your urine for early signs of dehydration with keostix. This sounds awful; if it goes on, unfortunately you might well qualify for dehydration enough to get Ondansetron even by your medical practice's standards. It might be worth phoning the Pregnancy Sickness Support people on 024 7638 2020 to see if they can give advice about obtaining, Ondansetron. They'll have to phone you back, but they will, and there's a great retired doctor on there who has helped many women on these threads get effective meds.
Oh dear, about only ice lollies being bearable. Do you find flat coke frozen as ice cubes bearable, too? A lot of people can stand the juice of tinned fruit, too.
Rae They do sound a bit as if you'll have to watch them. Really upsetting, when you have to cope with this.
*ickekid' It sounds a good idea to get something for the acid. A lot of people have said what huge difference it makes to sickness is that is controlled effectively. Oh dear, about LO on the ride. That sort of thing is exhausting even normally.
VixxxFacee I hope DP gets you the famous sticks.
SleepymrsE and everyone...much sympathy over broken nights, early rising.
Waves to mrsmonkey and everyone.

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Second please make sure you get help if you continue to suffer. Ondansetron has really helped me, it's improved my quality of life no end and I would be devastated if they took it away from me. Lucinda gives great advice about phoning for guidance on how to obtain it. I feel for you, 6-12 weeks was the worst for me, you're right in the middle of it! I hope you've got lots of support at home?

Thanks Lucinda. Yes, it's really rubbish. I feel very vulnerable at the moment. Feeling a bit resentful really as I genuinely worked my socks off for them before I had HG (never less than a 60 hour week, often more than 70). No point dwelling though!

Hope everyone is ok and coping in this humidity!

Rae and lucinda
Thanks very much for the replies and support. Today has been a good bit better than my darkest day yesterday so on I go hoping each day gets me closer to it all being over! I'd love to be on ondansetron but I don't see it happening. If things persist I will def try the number you have giving me, thank you so much for this! I'd just like to say well done to all the mammys on here doing this first second or more times, for all the horrendous months of my life spent suffering from HG it has been worth it once baby has arrived, that is sometimes the only thing that gets me through the hours x

Hi second sorry to hear your suffering through another pregnancy 😥 any chance seeing a different doctor might help? I only got ondansetron when went into hospital because of ketones and agree that if they are under control generally hcp seem less concerned. However the last dr I saw was still concerned that I had continuous low levels of ketones (more than 2/3 consecutive days) hope you have lots of support to help with tour other dc. Being off work without ds for 3 days and having family help is the only way ds and I have survived this pregnancy! Fingers crossed the worst doesn't last too long.

rae not surprised you feel vulnerable and taken advantage of. Having a child always makes you reassess priorities at work but they really haven't helped themselves. By contrast my work have been so good both pregnancies that I feel very loyal to them (been with them nearly 9 yeara and no plans to change...)

lucinda I actually wanted to cry at one point! Mil was trying to take photo and I gave dh a look and he told her not to! Clearly a very distressed 2 year old didn't need a photo taking at that point!!!

vixx Don't feel ashamed of not wanting to work the reality is many of us are very unwell and ot just isn't possible. Ketostix have been great for me as it feels like I have taken control of knowing when/how dehydrated I am. At a time when I am not in control of much this helps. I can go to gp and say my ketones are low/high and get appropriate responce rather than weekly wee!

Well definitely a rest day yesterday although ds was a bit clingy after falling off our bed earlier and banging his head! He had a really long afternoon nap (which I may have panicked during which about concussion but he'd eaten lunch, no bump, no sickness etc...) which was great. However dh and I then both really wanted to go to an event at church at 6 so didn't get home until 7 45 (7.30 is normally passed out asleep bed time!) He seemed to go down ok until 8.30 when he woke and would not settle. I ended up with him in our bed (I'm far too big for his atm!) And dh had to move him. If he wakes at 5 the childminder is going to have a horrible day! If he sleeps in I will probably resent the fact its not a weekend! Sickness levels not too bad but feel awful as a result of too much on Saturday!