Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Mum's are always right. Does this magical ability come with the baby or do we have to learn it somewhere?

Been very tired this weekend but only sick a few times. Horrid headache though, but I think that's stress.

Check it out though, I finished one - ta daaaar!

Fresh just saw your message. Me too. That wasn't the deal!

Fresh the second trimester isn't great for me either! Soooo tired. My hair has gone really shiny though, which is the only good pregnancy symptom I've had so far! Hope you're managing to rest.

Well done Lucy!

Been for a little walk round town with my Mum today. Had to buy some new foundation because I'm so pale from being ill that my old one looks ridiculous!!

DH is home from his event. We're both shattered- I think an early night is called for.

LucyIt's very brave of you to be so assertive about this bullying when ill.
That work looks good!
for mother knowing best!
Rae Glad you feel okay-ish.
icklekid I am so glad you had a nice celebration.
I hope everyone is coping today. Hot again.

rae and fresh I found very little improvement until the middle/end of 2nd trimester then only really appreciated it as got so much worse at the start of 3rd! think that is unusual though so fingers crossed you feel better soon. Rest rest rest...

lucy very impressed with those doors looking fantastic. Don't worry about rushing to get it done better to stay well. As for mums knowing best is it a bit like teachers knowing everything? Fake it until you make it? I went with the stripey dress- I love the lace but probably a bit dressy for the occasion and I will definitely get more use out of the stripey one. I still have to post the rest back tomorrow so may still keep both...

rae yes I snuck in - he is so sweet when asleep! I used to laugh at those who did this as ds was such a light sleeper never did it when he was in his own room as wasn't worth the risk. Then when he moved to duvet rather than gro bag started to so could make sure he didn't freeze/bake. Now I love it every night when I go to bed. Can totally understand why you would be worried about scan, does sound like your hairdresser was most unhelpful though to be honest...

liucinda has anyone told you recently how amazing you are for looking out for us all? You are so kind and always so positive. Thank you

Well my party was brilliant- just wish I'd taken some photos but had a great time. Dh did sych a good job. Then yesterday went to ds friends party and sat and enjoyed him being brilliant again. So grateful his behaviour has been amazing (what a difference having a house to ourselves and some nice weather so can enjoy being outside makes!) Am meant to be going into work to make a timetable for next 3 weeks of what meetings Ineed to be at however given currently feeling unable to drive we may do the meeting via phone as not worth driving an hour to be in half an hour!

Morning all. Glad to hear the party went well ickle, we had a mini tea party yesterday for DS's birthday and totally know what you mean about the weather being a godsend. You sound like you're listening to your body a bit more now and taking it easy where you can.

lucy what a horrible thing that you are going through. As lucinda rightly pointed out that is cyber bullying. These people are grown ups you say. They are indeed behaving like a group of teenagers. Pleased to hear you are being the better person. Sorry to hear of the loss of your grandparent too. On a positive note, the cupboards look great. I painted DS's new bed (it was my single bed at my parents house from when I was a teenager) and it's given it a totally new lease of life.

rae, fresh and others, the sickness & nausea has finally started to ease a bit now that I'm on extra meds for reflux. Still absolutely exhausted and suffering some nausea but def better than it was.

lucinda I second what ickle says about looking after us all. You do a great job of helping us all realise that it is only a short lived phase in life and that it will all be worth it when little ones arrive.

I'm just about to hop on a train to London (early start of 5.20). Had to put my boots on as my feet will swell and flip flops would a) not be practical trekking in London and b) wouldn't look very professional. Hoping I can cope with any heat. Someone has already commented on how big I look and surprised when I said I still have 3 months to go. Finding my size difficult at the minute. Threw a tantrum yesterday because everything made me look huge!!

Hi to everyone else I've very rudely missed. Hope you all have a good day and the nausea / sickness isn't too horrendous.

Thanks for the pep talk about feeling better ickle Glad you had a peek at your DS. I think my hairdresser must just hear so many horrible stories, she wanted to share the horror! Well done on doing the meeting over the phone

Sleepy I'm glad you're feeling better than you have been. Make sure you rest when you can- easier said than done I know! How did you get on in London with the heat? I'm going in on Saturday to meet friends for a couple of hours, I'll be walking to avoid the tube in the heat!

Well, I've had a terrible day. Woke up at 2am having a horrendous nosebleed, blood all over the place. Spent an hour in to bathroom trying to get it to stop, and then vomiting because I'd swallowed loads of blood (sorry for the overshare!) Then I got into work to an email from HR, (who had previously said to take all the time I needed to recover, they wouldn't hold policies over my head, etc), saying that they're cutting my pay in half as of last Friday as I've had too much time off. I cried at my desk which was so embarrassing- luckily only my manager was in. I've talked with DH and decided that I need to try and go back full time from tomorrow, as I don't want to eat up all our savings before the baby is born and have to go back to work quickly after the birth. I understand that a policy has been followed, but I am very upset- I was given no warning that they would do this- if they had highlighted it, it would have enabled me to enable me to plan financially (DH has shares he could sell to cover my salary for a month, but it takes about 6 weeks to get the money from the sale), I was given the impression that they were not going to do this, they sent it via email rather than telling me face to face or calling me, and there was nobody in HR today to discuss it with to get some clarity (letter was very vaguely worded). Anyway, I've just seen the Dr and can go back tomorrow, full time. I think I'm in shock about how quickly their treatment of me has shifted and am kicking myself for trusting them.

... And then to top it all, I was driving home and a lorry nearly ploughed me into the central reservation on a busy motorway. I'm ok but had to sit for half an hour to stop shaking! It was 100% the lorry' fault, clearly didn't check his mirrors and just started moving into my lane.

... And now I'm worrying about how much damage all this worrying and upset is doing to the baby. The irony.

I'm so sorry rae that is all horrendous!!!!! :( xxxx

Thanks fresh. I think I need to have a really good cry about it all and I'll feel better (I always bottle things up for ages and then feel better as soon as I've given into it). However, as the cherry on top of a fantastic day, DH and I have a solicitor coming to see us at 6pm to re-do our wills. So I'm going to have to suck it up!

Thank you for lovely comments, SleepymrsE and icklekid. Just come back and seen them.
Rae My goodness, horrors . What a dreadful day. Just the noseblood would be bad enough. Cyber pats on offer. Much sympathy over such a shock. I wonder if that's more common these days, as that happened to me once travelling as pasanger. Exactly the same thing;, the lorry driver pulled in without looking, OH accelerated, trying to get away; only just made it. Terrifying. I'm sure baby will be fine, anyway.
Only just got back in so waves to Fresh Lucy and everyone and will catch up properly tomorrow.

rae how are you feeling this morning? Would supplies of chocolate milk help? I can arrange that... hope that your ok and manage to have an actual face to face adult conversation with hr- it would make me really cross that they felt email was an appropriate way of communicating something so important. How long until maternity leave?

sleepy I am trying- didn't go in yesterday and will only pop in for a couple of hours today. Feel horrendous to be honest but better to get this meeting out the way and come home to bed. Glad nausea is a bit reduced and hope this is the start of a more enjoyable phase of pregnancy- everyone comments on how huge pregnant ladies are! I was at toddler group with a lady who is 38 weeks and she was even bigger and also running after a toddler! Oh the joys. So grateful ds is independent and happy to play by himself/ with older children without needing me!

lucy how are you feeling at the moment? Did you hear back from the friend who didn't realise how hurtful the joke was? Hope you've got some good support in RL as got enough going on without all this drama!

Well ds was awake at 4.30am... 😩 wanted Mummy by 5...just laid him down next to me and he chatted away until 6 when I gave up and had a shower. I will definitely be in need of a nap later!

Rae What an awful thing to happen regarding pay, and that sounds like a spectacularly bad Monday. HR really should have given you more notice. Hope you get things sorted. Are you in a union?

Ickle Glad you had a nice party! I know that there is nothing pleasant about being woken at 4.30am...but I'm getting very excited about meeting my DS, and sort of think it's also very sweet! My rainbow blankets arrived and they are really lovely.

Sleepy Glad the nausea/sickness is easing.

I had to run out of my NCT class on Saturday to do a lovely acidy, nose vomit (my first vomit in ages). I've been feeling a bit more sick than usual since, and have been having to wake DH in the middle of the night to get me dry toast to stop me vomiting again. Thought we were past this nonsense. I'm keeping enough down though, so no worries there.

34 weeks! Not long now.

I really don't know how I got through school run today and now I'm lying on the sofa had given My 3 yr old some milk, his dummy and put boomerang on and I'm struggling to stay awake. I feel really guilty as the house is a MESS and I have a washing pile as tall as myself.

icklied Glad you aren't forcing yourself to do too much. Congratulations on having got your LO to play by himself. My daughter demanded to be played with throughout her childhood - I believe, sensed my guilt that I hadn't given her a sibling to play with - and exhausted me with demands for play, particularly for Gothic stories involving her Barbies...[straight face]
Ray I have only just seen the part about the pay cut. Can they do that legally, with your sickness being pregnancy related? Hope you feel better and up to dealing with such an unpleasant situation.
Jodders Much sympathy, but congratulations on doing the school run.
I hope that Lucy mrsmonkey SleepymrsE and everyone is more or less OK.

SpecialStains Much sympathy over acid nose vomits - but over OH having to get up in the night to make toast.

Hi all! Sorry for the lack of posts, I was in the office 7-4 and it was pretty relentless.

Lucinda sorry that the lorry thing has happened to you too! I was genuinely thinking about which way I should throw myself to make it less likely that the baby and I would die- and then I thought "flipping typical that I'm about to crash when I'm supposed to be trading this car in on Thursday" I'm not sure about the legalities of what's happened with work- I'm assuming that they can. The sickness policy is that if you have more than 8 weeks of accrued absence in a year, your sick pay is halved for 8 weeks, then goes down to nothing. I'm assuming that applies whether you're pregnant or not

ickle no face to face conversation has been had. I responded to the email with the revised sick note attached saying that I would be back full time from today, asking her to clarify what the impact on my July salary would be, and also confirm that as per our maternity policy (and the law), I am still entitled to paid time off for antenatal appointments. I've had no reply at all. My boss marched over mid-morning and said that she trusted me totally and would be authorising me to work at home whenever I requested it, and they agreed. So I guess that's it! I'm only 20+5 so I have a long way to go until mat leave unfortunately Hope that your DS let you have a nap?

Special I'm not in a union, there's not really an appropriate one sadly. It's just been handled so so badly, my manager and I were both given the impression that the business would be supporting me for as long as needed, so this was a total shock for both of us. The sickness policy hasn't been mentioned once the whole time I've had HG! I've worked so flipping hard for them as well, always a 60-70 hour week before HG kicked in. I've learned my lesson. It's horrible waking up in the night feeling sick- I hope it subsides for you soon.

Jodders just look after yourself and DC (let the TV babysit)- nothing else is important, you just need to survive!

Well, I survived day 1. I think I'll go to bed at about 7-8 tonight, battle through tomorrow, and then we have the scan on Thursday so I'll see if I can work from home after it- should make for a slightly less frenetic working day. I'm trying not to think too much about how I'm feeling because I think my willpower will crumble if I do, so I'm just going to ignore and power through as best I can!

Thinking of you all

Lucinda I've just spent some time on Google- as long as I've been given the same sickness benefits as anyone else at the business, they've done nothing wrong.

jodders please don't feel guilty, I feel guilty all the time that I'm not looking after my dd or the house as well as I feel I should. My fatigue is so strong, doesn't take much to set it off then fatigue sets off more nausea. I went to bed at 8pm last night but dd was up at 3am and didn't settle for half an hour I just couldn't function this morning and asked mum if she could take dd to her swimming lesson and back to her house after, I flopped into bed and slept soundly for two hours and I can already feel I need to go to bed soon. I had a burst of energy between 14 & 17 wks and now I'm heading towards 19 weeks I feel worse and constantly exhausted. Dh does so much, I could do with a cheap cleaner to just help with dusting and hoovering, if I try to do housework or laundry for one or two hours I'm flat out the next day, so frustrating

rae sounds to me like your manager does appreciate you and doesn't want to have to put you in this situation. I would take her advice and on days when your getting tired then work from home. Would your pay still cut as part of a phased return (amended hours or duties?) Hope you survive the rest of the week anyway without feeling too exhausted

fresh amd jodders I've been there and felt awful at how little I could do- just hoped dh appreciated how much I normally do by comparison! It's not forever (although I didn't do much with a newborn either!) And sometimes we just have to listen to our bodies saying no!

lucinda gothic barbie stories you say...thats quite an imagination your dd has! 😄

special most nct sessions I was sick at some point! I was also sick at pilates class last night however the worst was heartburn at 4am yet ds woke and took an hour to get him back to sleep lying cuddled up on me! I darent move to get the gaviscon! What a way to start my 30th! However on the plus side I have a child free day, not working as got everything done yesterday and so can treat myself! Chocolate milk to celebrate anyone?!

Morning all. Sorry, I've been reading but not posting as just too exhausted! On the plus side, I don't like to jinx things BUT I feel 'OK'. Nauseous, but eating and drinking better than I have for weeks and haven't been sick for days - tentatively hoping this is a last min reprieve?!! Also baby now over 37 wk so is full term, I made it!!! 😊

Happy birthday ickle hope you have a restful day and glad to hear that the party was a success!
rae sorry to hear of awful day, not what you needed. And sick pay situation sounds very stressful. I can't believe they didn't send you the sick pay policy earlier. I was very fortunate that I've been in my job a long time and had fairly generous terms so was able to be signed off without suffering financially - must be awful to be forced back for money. Glad to hear your manager is supportive and definitely try to work from home as much as poss. Hopefully she might also be able to not officially report it if you need to work less?? Esp if you are at home working.

special I had to vom in my NCT classes too! This time round my NCT girls reminded me I had planned what I would eat after baby is born last time! (It was black miso cod!). This time I think I've forgotten what a normal diet looks like, I've no idea what I'll eat post baby.

lucy the cyber bullying sounds awful, so sorry. Sounds like teenagers not grown women. Hope you're able to get away from them, they sound toxic.
jodders and fresh sorry to hear you're struggling with DC. It is so hard to do this and still parent. TV and outside help if at all poss. And yes if you can get help with housework too, I know that I have 'coped' only due to childminder, cleaner and DH being brilliant (most of the time!). And DD doesn't seem to have noticed too much (although I cried when she started imitating retching noises as I was so sad 😢), but she's only just 2 so may be harder for older children who might notice more? Anyway, you are doing BRILLIANTLY and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

sleepy glad to hear DS tea party went well! I'm impressed you got on an early commuter train, hope you're not overdoing it? Sorry you feel big, it can be quite demoralising can't it - I'm sure that you look great, and remember you're growing a baby, it's not you that's big.

Waves to lucinda !

Sorry to everyone I've missed, I can't scroll back further on my phone.

Hospital for check up today. Limping towards delivery, feels like end is in sight, yet also now bloody terrified at thought I'm actually having another baby. Pls pls let the newborn stage with this baby be ok!!

Back soon.

Fresh don't beat yourself up. I'm a week ahead of you and exactly the same. DH says I'm growing a human for him so the least he can do is pick up the housework I can't cope with.

ickle yes, I'd have full out for hours I worked, but half pay for any I didn't. It's just not an option for us financially, we've committed to more house renovations this month and I'm getting a new car on Thursday. Happy Happy Birthday! sorry about the early start- hope things improve. I am toasting you with milkshake as a type (hoping the sugar will get me through the first part of the day!)

mrsmonkey congratulations on being full term! Hope that you are getting a reprieve. I think my manager would do whatever she can to help me- I don't want to put her in that position though. DH also works at the same place (different floor, different department, we rarely see each other at work), and has already made it clear to the manager that he reports into that he will be working less for the next few months because he has to be at home more to support me after what's happened- last night I was totally broken, he practically had to dress me for bed! He's also scheduling meetings around sitting with me at lunch too- I'm anxious about food smells and people staring at me!

Hope you all have good days, will check in later if I can- off to workbow.

Good luck rae take it as easy as you can (and I know this will be hard for you but slack off as much as is possible without getting into trouble) - otherwise danger is you'll be back in hospital. Thinking of you.

Oh dear rae that pressure is so unhelpful and I really feel for you. So pleased dh is stepping up and will be there to support you at all times. I think you may have to be physically there but not always mentally performing to your best in order to get through this...

mrsmonkey so lovely to hear from you and congratulations on making it to full term! Hope hospital check up goes ok, there will be elements of having a newborn that seem like a breeze by comparisson... oh and my da has been imitating me being sick over the toilet for months. I just have to laugh now because otherwise I would cry!

Well dh left early for work- bought me a pair of maternity trousers a size too small (they didn't have the right size in...), a maternity pjyama top that he thought was just a vest top and a watch in rose gold which, whilst lovely, doesnt really match yellow gold wedding/engagement ring. I know I'm being ungrateful but he is so good at presents normally and these just seem a bit haphazard and pregnancy related on what should be a special birthday! Now I've got a day to myself and tidying/painting to face so that the house looks ready for family visiting this weekend for ds birthday!

Haha, best laid plans and all that- worked until 12:30, then got a phone call from the Dr saying that I do have a UTI (tests in the surgery came back clear but the hospital found an infection) and I needed to get some antibiotics urgently. So I've just been to collect the prescription and am working from home this afternoon!

Thanks mrsmonkey! ickle I think you're right, I might have to disengage my brain a bit! I'd be a bit miffed with those presents too to be honest. I was going to ask for a change bag for my birthday but decided it wasn't fair if I got baby stuff- DH won't get bought anything baby-related for his! Are you doing anything nice later to make up for it?

rae Doubt will do anything nice... plans this eve are to get ds birthday cake baked!!! However DH is forgiven as the trousers actually fit- have not been this size since I was about 20 I recon!!! Anyway sorry to hear about UTI but secretly glad you can work from home...rest!