Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi all, just wanted to update. My condition has got a lot worse in the last couple of days, and I've been admitted to hospital for emergency fluids. I am feeling quite a bit better already after only a couple of hours on the drip. Hoping to be discharged tomorrow though the doctor is saying Sunday at the earliest.

Thanks Lucinda.
Rae, sorry to hear you're in hospital but honestly it's the best place for you. IV fluids and IV meds make a huge difference to how you feel and really help to interrupt that downward cycle. What meds have they got you on? Hope they discharge with a prescription.

rae glad fluids helping sorry your in hospital over the weekend though not ideal!

motherofpearl yay for baby being in position!

reebok you have done so so well and let's hope not much longer now! I remember Brixton hicks for about 3 weeks last time and all the odd looks I used to get! I imagine your very used to that now...

This cold has officially been over a week and I still have a dripping tap for a nose. Ds is trying to blow his nose which is quite cute except he's using his mouth not his nose to blow! I keep wanting chocolate then having a tiny bit and not wanting it any more

Mother thank you- I'm not sure to be honest! 2 different types- one begins with 'o'. I know that neither are cyclizine as apparently there's a shortage of the IV version. The doctor I saw yesterday said they'd discharge me with something to dissolve against my gum? They've also booked me in for a scan on Monday when I'll be 8+3 to check everything is ok.

ickle thank you. To be honest I'm just glad my GP sent me here yesterday- I haven't found out of hours very sympathetic and don't think I'd get any help from them.

Does anyone else have a very painful throat? I'm guessing it's due to being sick so much?

Nurses keep pestering me to eat and drink...

Sounds like Ondanestron Rae. It would be great if they could give you a prescription for oral Ondansetron when you leave. It really is the best.
Ickle, sorry that the cold lingers on. Mine is currently in full flood, quite literally.

Sorry to hear you've been admitted rae but it was a turning point for me and allowed me to get on top of the sickness. Sorry for those full of colds, it must make the sickness worse plus you'll be feeling doubly rubbish. I've just got back from braving a supermarket trip which has totally wiped me out. Thought I was going to pass out by the time we got to the end of the shop and desperately wanted to be home. Hopefully DS will go down for his nap soon and I can have a snooze on the sofa. Didn't puke tho so should be thankful for small mercies.

MotherofPearl yes, that's it! Apparently GPs don't like to prescribe it because it's too expensive so they're going to start me here to make sure my GP does give it.

Thank you Sleepy, I'm hoping it will be the same for me too. Hope you get a rest soon!

Bloods ok :)
Baby fine
Just said I have excess amniotic fluid now
Don't google that sigh more worry
Consultant next thurs
Roll on May
Can't breath properly feel so tired
Sick of everything and everyone x

Sorry about your hospital trip Rae, but good news about the ondansetron. It hasn't taken away my nausea but has stopped most vomiting. At my worst I took 8mg/3 times a day, but currently down to 4mg/2 a day. It really is fabulous stuff.

MoP good news about baby turning.

Hope everyone else is surviving.

I recieved a letter from the ultrasound department at the hospital, asking me to attend a 30week scan. This wasn't mentioned at my 20week scan, and all babies measurements are normal, and other than hg I have no other underlying conditions. The only reason I can think for this is that I have an anterior placenta (but not praevia). Has anyone else had extra scans for this reason? I tried to call and ask but obviously they're not open on a Saturday morning. Now I'm going to worry all weekend.

*baby's not babies. No plurality here!

SpecialStains Might it be because of the Hyperemesis just to check growth rates? That often happens, even if they're measuring OK, just to be sure.
RaeSkywalker Really sorry to hear you've been admitted, though I'm sure you're feeling all the better for it. With any luck they'll give you more effective meds now. What did your ketones measure when they finally took action? The retching makes the throat really sore, and it can even bleed now and then. Hopefully if they give you effective meds, you'll have a lot less and the throat can heal a bit.
spandau Sorry to hear things are no better. What a marathon for you it's been.
SleepymrsE Congratulations on non puking shopping trip, anyway!
Much sympathy to icklekid MotherofPearl amysummmy and all those with colds.
Reebok I am still happy you've reached that magic 36 weeks, and thinking of you with those awful contractions.
squeezed How far along are you now? Are things jogging on much as ever?
I hope Ican't is OK.
Apologies to anyone overlooked. Back soon.

Special glad to hear it's good!

Lucinda they didn't really say, just "over 4". Consultant this morning told me I was "dry as a crisp" when I was admitted, which I'm guessing isn't the best thing ever! I am feeling better now and have (so far) kept down all food and drink. I'm really hoping they let me go home tomorrow . My throat seems to be improving though!

sleepy hope you got your nap. My ds is never going to be allowed to drop his as so nice to rest. I've also been wiped out after trip today so sympathy if you feel as frustrated as I did...surely I can cope with 1 little trip out etc. ..

rae glad you have ondansetron I found it definitely helps me to stay hydrated even if still being sick. Most on this thread seem to find it (sometimes in combination with other meds eg cyclazine) does stop sickness better than I have. Fingers crossed for early release today so your back home!

spandau focus on positives of bloods, baby both fine and consultant appointment is there to support you. Hope next few days aren't too much of a nervous wait

special try not to worry hopefully they will explain what the scan is for (I would keep ringing on Monday too!) I'm actually shocked how quickly this 20 week scan has come around and how this is last chance to see baby until it's born (week on mon!)

lucinda hope you are doing OK at the moment!

My really close friend text to say they had their baby yesterday evening am so delighted and put everything back into perspective. I can and will get through this for that gorgeous baby (who then won't sleep and will feed non stop for weeks 😉)

ickekid You are so right about perspective.
RaeSkywalker 4+ ketones is very high. They usually admit at 3+. You must have felt dreadful.If they put you on Ondansetron, remember to ask about meds for constipation, as that is a menace with that drug. It's awkward without a strong medication as over the counter stuff such as fibrogel is so puke making and they won't sell the jelly suppository things to pregnant women, though they do use them in maternity wards.
I hope all are coping today.

I've been discharged!!! Just had a lovely shower so feel like 'me' again. Thank you all for your support.

ickle they have given me cyclizine again as well. I think I'll take it all for a few days and hope I can get things to settle.

Lucinda I honestly had no clue! I don't think I realised how ill I was at the time

Hello all.

Feeling very sorry for myself. Had to come home early from work because of vomiting, and then get through to hospital on the phone ask why I'm on the multiple scan pathway to be told that I have low Papp-A and should have been under consultant care since week 16. They can't get me a consultant appointment until next week, and I am freaking myself out googling about Papp-A. My combined screening risk was low for downs at 1:1952 and they would have said if there were any anomalies at the 20week scan, right? Anyone else had this?

Glad you are out of hospital,Rae. Let's hope the meds continue to help.

Hope everyone else is surviving. I just want to hibernate and wake up when everything is OK again.

Sorry you're feeling miserable special, I have no experience but I can imagine how you must be worrying. I've worried more this time than in my first pregnancy even though I sort of know what to expect. I would think that any problems would have been picked up at the 20 week anomaly scan as they do a thorough check at that point.

How are you doing today rae? Hopefully you're on the up now.

How is everyone else? Thinking of icant & reebok especially.

I'm doing ok. Still working from home at the minute but braving the office on Wednesday. So tired today, DS had a really bad night and I tried to help soothe him a few times to no avail. Ended up sobbing to DH that I didn't know what was wrong with him and that I couldn't do it. Not sure if it was the hormones, the tiredness or the nausea but I felt a rubbish mummy. Needless to say once DH brought him into bed with us I got very little sleep and now feel totally rubbish.

Special I so wish I had more knowledge of these newer tests and what the figures mean, but as SleepymrsE says, they have given you the 20 week scan and a low risk rate earlier, which is encouraging. Sorry you felt awful at work, too. A horrible day for you. I hope you get reassuring news soon.
RaeSkywalker So glad that you are out. With which meds did they send you home?
Thinking of you all. I too, am especially concerned for squeezed spandau Reebok and ICan't.

Thanks for the sympathy. Calmed down a bit now. Low Papp-A can also be an indicator of the placenta not being hugely efficient, and 20week scan measurements were all OK. I'll get extra scans at 30, 32 and 36 weeks, just to check baby is growing normally. If any problems I may be induced early. If it is a downs indicator, it doesn't matter as we wouldn't have terminated pregnancy for that reason anyway. I think I was just a bit thrown by having a good scan result last week and then finding out about this so shortly after.

I know it's ridiculous, and I have no control over this, but I really feel like I'm doing a shit job of being pregnant. I'm trying so hard to hold it together, and things were just starting to get better.

Good luck for going into the office on Wednesday, Sleepy. Sorry you had a bad night sleep. Everything is much harder when you're sleep deprived. Hope your ds let's you sleep a bit more tonight.

Hi Lucinda, thanks for the sympathies. How are you getting on?

Huge hugs and non-scented to anyone else feeling down today.

hello!

rae glad you are out of hospital but sorry you are having such a bad time.

i'm in week 8 now and can't believe i'm only 2 weeks into hg! it feels like forever and i have had enough. had to travel this weekend for a family event. Threw up probably 20 time including in 2 bins, 1 hedge, 1 grass verge and multiple sick bags. Once through the nose. Public displays are so embarrassing- i bet peoples' first thought isnt morning sickness. maybe i could wear a badge saying "i'm pregnant, not pissed, and you are not going to catch anything."

struggling to stay hydrated as with the low gut motility even liquids take hours to go through my stomach! the wikipedia page says that slow gut motility can be a problem in hg, but the doctors dont seem to know about it?! cyclazine is partially effective but only lasts 3-4 hours, and can only take 3 pills a day.

Sorry about those of you going through difficult times. Bit of a me post I'm afraid. Not kept anything down today and feeling rotton. Despite barely doing anything, I think the tiredness from the sleep disturbance from the spd is making the HG worse. Although I don't get many days like this anymore, only once a week, they're really tough.

Rae, glad you've been discharged and are feeling more like yourself. Sometimes a spell in hospital on IV meds and fluids is really what's needed to break the spell and allow you to get on top of the sickness.
Rocket, sounds like you're in a very bad way. Being sick 20+ times is not morning sickness and I really think you need different meds - doesn't sound like the cyclizine is working. All sympathies on the grass verge vom - you reminded me of my previous HG pregnancy; we had a long driving trip out and I kept having to ask my DP to stop so I could be sick on grass verges! I have horrible memories of myself on my hands and knees on a grass verge in Scotland, being violently sick! Luckily it was quite remote...
Special, sorry to hear about this distressing Papp-A worry. I'm sure that if your 20 week scan showed all was well, then you should try not to worry - easier said than done of course. What does your DH say? (Am I right in remembering he's a HCP?). Hope you have a vomit free day tomorrow, whether you're at work or not.
Sleepy and Squeezed, you are both suffering with tiredness and it's one of the biggest sickness triggers. Really hope you manage to get some rest.
My sickness has been hugely improved the last few days by ranitidine. My midwife suggested it to me last week and said I could get it over the counter as Zantac, which I got DP to do for me. It's really helped with my late afternoon acid voms, which have been so persistent. And going to sleep is a bit easier now that acid doesn't rise up into my throat every time I turn over in bed. Now I just need to get through to Friday and maternity leave starts - can't wait!
Like all of us I'm thinking of Icant and Reebok. Ages since we heard from Amys. Also hoping MrsAmerican, MrsMonkey, Ickle, Spandau and everyone else surviving. Another day down everyone. X

special feel free to feel sorry for yourself any time. I do it regularly and hibernation is very appealing . Hope your feeling ok about your scan now

rocket I remember right at the start thinking this was just unbearable and how would I get through it. I clung to the hope it would get better. For the majority of people it definitely does. To be fair once I found the right medication my dehydration is a lot better. I guess I had hoped I would be able to eat/not be sick throughout the day but now at 19 weeks I've adjusted. All things are manageable however sometimes work has to give in order to rest. However frustrating that may be. Sounds like you need something in addition to cyclizine. That way always something in your system

sleepy I think your reaction to ds was very normal. I made dh get up to crying ds is the morning at the weekend and he snapped at me. I don't even care I do all middle of the nights (tbf these are rare) and get him up when dh is at work. Our partners have to share this burden especially when other dc are involved

squeezed the frustration and exhaustion that comes from not keeping anything down is like nothing else. As my bump gets bigger I feel really twinges as I'm being sick. I remember struggling with spd and being sick last pregnancy (but that was just 1 a day...) and am terrified of spd coming back this pregnancy!

motherofpearl so delighted to hear new medication has had an impact that's great news. Horray for a midwife suggesting something better than ginger! Not long until Friday will be on countdown with you!

I've made it to my parents house as am exhausted and need to find energy for 2 weeks childminder free with ds! My dad took him to the park yesterday and he's come back with the biggest graze right beside his eye. I think he feels bad enough without me saying anything. Looking forward to getting some help but miss dh- am aware how pathetic I am. My mum keeps pushing me to eat though which is really not helpful. Looking forward to 20 week scan on mon!

Hello.

Really fed up. Vomited brushing my teeth this morning and feeling very nauseous, so not going into work again. Really scared and angry that due to an admin error on the hospitals side I've found out about this Papp-A thing two months late. I'm tired, emotional, and my (lovely) mil is staying for an indefinite amount of time which is fine, but I just want to curl up in bed with my cat and she keeps on talking to me. I just want it to be August and my baby to be out and to never be pregnant again.

Rocket doesn't sound like cyclizine is the best drug for you. I found it worked for a while, but was no where near as good as ondansetron.

squeezed sorry you had a crappy day yesterday. Is today looking any better?

MoP glad the sickness is improving and yay for the start of maternity leave!

ickle good luck for the 20week scan! It's not pathetic to miss your dh. More than ever this pregnancy I've been constantly reminded at how wonderful my dh is, and would not be functioning quite so well without his support! Have a lovely time with your parents, and I hope you get on alright over the next two weeks!

Thanks again for all the kind words. I don't know what to do with myself atm. Just waiting for consultant appointment on Friday 11am.

rocket like others have said, it doesn't sound like the medication is doing much. Go back to your doctors to ask for an additional type of tablet or try a change. Again as others have said ondansatron is quite good especially in combination with cyclizine.

Sorry to hear you're really struggling at the min squeezed and special, I do think being tired makes things so much worse. I (and DS) had a much better nights sleep last night plus I had a 2 hour nap yesterday afternoon which has helped.

At 13+3 I am definitely feeling more in control, the meds seem to be doing their thing and I am able to eat a bit more (jacket spud & cheese for lunch are the latest fad) even if it is beige food! And looking back to the time when I wasn't able to move without being sick at 6 weeks I realise how much better I actually am. Looking forward to being back in the office for a bit of company although think I'll miss the opportunity to nap if I need to. Also feeling apprehensive about telling people I'm pregnant although I already have a pronounced bump despite losing quite a bit of weight.