Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Pebbles.... where r they ? I ll come spew in them and say whoops I'm sorry I'm 20.weeks should have gone 8 weeks ago ....ignorant twits

It's written everywhere hypermeresis may MAY MAY.start to go from.16 weeks...
Alot suffer all the way through...

I'm 20 weeks and feel rough as arse

peyiait's different with each woman, like any pregnancy related stuff. For me it didn't go completely until my little boy was born (11 weeks ago!), but it went immediately as soon as he was born. Like a fog lifting! I remember the milky tea and toast afterwards as the best dammed tea and toast ever! However, I felt much much better for the last ten-fifteen weeks of my pregnancy, able to eat a little more and drink much more. Most people get some-complete relief between 14-22 weeks. Good days creep in and then you find the good days outnumber the bad days.

The best thing for HG is rest rest and more rest. So I'm glad you took yourself home rather than fighting on at work. Are you in a position to speak to a doctor about work - either signed off, or reduced hours? I did a lot of both options!

Oh and pebblesit would seem your gps need to further their understanding of what HG is and how it affects women. I would stand your ground and see a different GP l (if there is one?). Perhaps take someone with you, maybe your other half, who can be your advocate and stand up for you if you struggle to. There is no shame in struggling to stand up to poor health care professionals, when youre fighting HG it's a battle to look after yourself let alone anything else. You're doing so well to get thru every day, keep fighting and keep your head up!

You're all one day closer to meeting your beautiful babies!!

cyclizine works by reducing your body's reaction to the pregnancy hormones, like HcG (the hormone that the blue line picks up and shows). It is actually pretty effective for most people but ... yeah. It can make you sleepy.

there are quite a few other meds though. Metoclopramide ... eh, i've got a list somewhere ... here !

cyclizine (old fashioned anti-histamine; can make you sleepy)
Metoclopramide (empties the stomach faster, less to upchuck)
Domperidone (similar)
Prochlorperazine (stemetil/Avomine/Buccastem) (works on your sense of balance; also a travel remedy; can be good for some people).
Promethazine (called Phenergan)(stronger old fashioned anti-histamine, also sleepy-making)
Ondansetron (the strongest and many people find the best, but causes constipation).

HG is pretty rare-ish, so lots of HCPs don't see it much and quite a few of them don't seem to have had any training about it either. Sigh.

ealli amazing to think that tinyealli was only born 11 weeks ago!

onceameer I know! Feels like only a couple of weeks ago, bit also a lifetime ago!

Ladies, I was thinking - wouldn't we be great for schools to use for sex ed talks aimed at reducing teenage pregnancies?! Once we told them all about the delights of HG: the voms, the grinding nausea, the peeing-while-you-vom, the constipation, piles, acid, bile runs, the exhaustion, we'd slash the pregnancy rates down to zero I reckon!
Another day nearly done.

Welcome newbies and sorry you have to be here. Great advice as always from Meerka and Ealli.

Haha! Mop I've actually been told by work colleagues that I'm an advert for contraception!

Hard day once again...relentless nausea and pain. Had to force myself to pop to local shops today to buy dd an Xmas jumper for her party tomorrow. Was difficult as I had to stop every few minutes from the pain. I can't seem to walk anymore these days without cramps. It doesn't feel like stretching...that I can't handle. These feel like contractions but I've been checked again and again...baby is fine, cervix closed. 21 weeks tomorrow. April feels like a lifetime away. DDs nursery closes next Tuesday for 2 weeks even though I still get charged! I want to cry as I'm really struggling to look after her and just want to rest. I'm not sleeping at all because of pain, vomiting, peeing, nausea. Just feel like a wreck at the moment and I look it too!

Pebbles you should show your gp this thread! Might teach them a thing or two about hg!

reebok apparently braxton hicks actually do start really early on - earlier than 20 weeks even, iirc. Not sure about that. Could it possibly be them? They're supposed to be painless but just like the idea of a serene and happy joyful pregnancy, it's not always true!

Really hoping you can get some help in the next two weeks ... no way you can call on family or friends?

Possible it's Braxton hicks. And if it is it's bloody painful. I literally can't move when I have them. Sister will be down for a few days over the break to help but haven't really got anyone else. Friends are busy and the ones who aren't are either pregnant or have LOs of their own.

I made damned sure the girls at my school know how difficult my pregnancy was, tho I didn't go into all the details... didn't really want them looking at me when I'm trying to lead prayer and them imagining me vomiting whilst peeing on my husband!

reebok those pains sound horrid. Hopefully they'll settle in the next few days rather than hanging around for the next few months. Fingers crossed.

sorry not caught up on the thread I've been bad again. yet another dvt in other arm as well as cellulites that turned into sepsis again. had bleeding too and local hospital has no maternity department so in a hospital 40/50 miles away from home.
drs took ages to cannulate me (new picc had to come out) and the vomiting has been horrendous by the time they got it in my ketones were 4+.
so think I've had my fair share of bad luck and medical dramas now.

not sure if I've mentioned on this thread - my sister is getting married Monday and I'm chief bridesmaid yet been told I'll need 7days at least iv antibiotics so God knows what's going to happen.

sorry for the me me me post - always thinking of you all. I really hope at least some of us will have respite over the Xmas period.

Oh icant, you poor thing, yet again! Again, glad you're getting treatment but goodness me, it's never ending for you. If it cones to it, I'm sure your sister will understand, though I know you won't want to miss stuff cos of this. Sending get well and healthy vibes your way!

Sorry just catching up! MotherofPearl induction was a fait accompli last time as I was diabetic and got to 40 weeks so that was it. I was so ground down by then that I just agreed albeit in a rather petulant and teenagery way. DH kept asking why and as they couldn't give an answer based on reason so he got me a few extra days' grace but I was still induced. Nought to 60 in minutes (or so it felt) and the whole thing was really horrible. I am not a "birth experience" kinda gal and I am very pragmatic but this was ultimately done because it suited the staff. My notes attest to that. So unless I can be given a solid reason for induction this time that doesn't give rise to an endless cycle of "because we say so" then it ain't happening. My community midwife is supportive of my approach but she doesn't hold much sway. The relationship between doctors and midwives at my hospital is pretty poor with the latter being dismissed out of hand by the former rather a lot. No time for such discourtesy.

Hope everyone is managing. I see mention of Braxton Hicks - enjoying those right now... Ever so slightly alarming!!!

Thanks Ruby. That sounds like a really frustrating experience for sure. The reason they have given me is that placental function degrades rapidly after 39 weeks in women over 40. They didn't seem to want to force me, but said they 'strongly recommend' it. Obviously I'm aware that the rate of stillbirths is higher in older mothers, so I'd never forgive myself if I declined the induction and then something happened to the baby. On the other hand I do dread the 0 to 60 experience you've described. Hope you get to have a much better experience this time around.
Icant, you poor thing. If only you could just get even a few days of respite. I know you must be worried about your sister's wedding, but given how poorly you've been and that you're in hospital, I'm sure she'll understand.
Reebok, so glad you're not going into work but hope your OH is going to pull his weight while your DD is off nursery.

Hi all..
Iv been induced and it is very rapid once it kicks in.. Alot more.painful than natural labour .. but it's a means to am ends. .. I wouldn't want induction again.. but if there was any risk to baby then odd go through it again.. hope that helps MOP

Had hideous day and night. Son s got excluded from school for swearing.. his twin brother was pushed against a wall and has lump on his head from a lad who is a complete prat goes about hurting others for no reason.. both 14/15 yr old so it's a serious bump on his head :(

Dd up in night and I had first acid waking of this preg with such painful acid in my throat I threw up its killing me this morning had a bout 2 hrs sleep.. spd is hurting and I feel so sick

I can't .... I can't believe this should be ur user name !!!
How soon can a baby be delivered with high success of survival no complications ect I'd be asking as this pregnacy of yours is high risk of harming you !!!

Reebok I'm having braxton s I believe.. they take my breath away.. not realky painful.. but my spd is and it affect my lower back and my lower tummy.. had it last preg so more confident it's that .. last time I was convinced it was a miscarriage or something awful

Do you have pain in front of pelvis where bones meet over your .. eh hem privates ?

Hugs to everyone xxx

mop ask for the stats about placenta function, I think you've got a good few weeks before that's a real issue. Trust your body to know what is doing. But I understand your positron on not wanting to risk anything.

spandau I had that pain you describe, it's part of spd. Again I'd suggest a chiropractor if you can afford one, I know they're expensive though.

Just to be clear, I would never put my baby at risk for some spurious reason or a jealously guarded preference! It was just that no one could tell me why I had to be induced last time. Had they given me an answer to my question that was based in reason then I would have accepted that. It was the absence of that which made me so uneasy last time. I was never told there was any danger to the baby or anything like that. It was during the World Cup and there was a flippant suggestion by a midwife that my care was unduly influenced by that! They certainly weren't supportive of induction in my case but doctors I had never met were so that's what happened. I just want to guard against that feeling of helplessness this time!

Didn't mean to scare anyone either! If it's necessary then it's necessary.

Hi guys. Well I would say I'm def a fully fledged member of this club now. Thought I was handling it ok until Wednesday when I started throwing up 15 plus times a day! As it stands ive not eaten since Tuesday, but have started on the drugs today (phenergen) so am hoping they will help! Have been so rough that I've had to send my toddler to his grandparents for the last 2 days as there s no way I could look after him! I just feel really weak now, I guess after not eating for so long. I hope the rest of you are feeling better! X

chattycat I'm awfully glad you've got family nearby who can help. He's probably having a proper adventure, and loving the time with them. Glad you're on meds now, hope they work quickly. If they don't, please don't hesitate to go back to doctor and ask to try something different. Are you able to drink anything? Fruit juice is good , and people often find fizzy things work surprisingly well. Very hot or very cold also seems to work well (I was a very cold!).

I'm drinking lucozade! Thanks for the tip though. Wil get some fruit juice. How are u feeling eallison? Do u have it under control?

Chatty cat how far are u ?

Iv had a guts full today .. I'm exhausted
U keep missing social occasions and friends due to feeling so shitty Al the time and my mood has plumeted this afternoon

Welcome back to Chattycat Peja (hope I've got that right) and
Pebbles601 The Pregnancy Sickness Support advice number is
024 7638 2020 and they will have to ring you back, but they will give great advice about obtaining meds from unhelpful GP's. I think you all need some kesostix to check on the early stages of dehydration (available from any chemists). ChattyCat So glad you've got meds. Pebblest601 I am shocked that the doctor said that. Even normal pregnancy sickness often lasts 14 weeks, or even 16. What a thing to say.
Ican't Oh, no. What can we say? I have never known anyone suffer so horribly. Can only offer gentle cyber pats. I know your OH was very worried about being off, and on top of everything your local hospital is a long way from your house.
Reebok Very sorry about pain, that sounds awful. My ribs did hurt a lot, and I was told that was them stretching. I wonder if that is a factor, besides bh which I agree with OnceaMeer frankly hurt.
RubyReins and MotherofPearl I never knew that about placentas and blood supply in women over forty. I was thirty-five and the consultant insisted on inducing me at 40 weeks and two days because of a slight front waters leakage, commenting on my being an 'elderly primo'. Induction was savage,, I agree, and led to baby's head not turning, forceps, infected stitches, etc etc... I can't help feeling that some of these 'medical facts' they insist on are based on averages rather than indvididual ones, but I have never researched it and could be wrong. I'm sure you'll take the best decision in the circumstances.
spandau Sorry there's no let up yet.
MotherofPearl and eallison Ha, ha, you are so right...
OnceaMeer Great advice on meds etc as ever.
Apologies if Ive overlooked anyone/cross posted.

Spandau- 11 weeks/ so I assume ive got weeks and weeks of this ahead of me. I can relate to missing social occasions. I missed my team Xmas lunch yesterday and also star wars today due to the damn HG.

Ps on a different subject, I was induced with my first pregnancy and I wouldn't recommend it unless absolutely necessary. It was not nice and ended in a forceps delivery in theatre- almost a c section too.

MoP Now I have a mental image of a bed-bound HG woman being wheeled into class with a big tummy, stringy hair and a nice bucket she's upchucking into.

I was induced the first time and it was yes, rather painful .... But frankly between the experience the first time and the second, I reckon that the key is asking demanding insisting on good pain relief in enough time.

Agreed that feeling you have some measure of control or at least input is really really important.