Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Feeling the constant nausea today. Up since 6am thanks to dd after a night of no sleep. The exhaustion seems to make the nausea worse. I hate this taste in my mouth and the constant saliva. Only things helping are coke, sucking sweets and a teaspoon of Nutella to suck on...not exactly the best diet but who cares!

Eali, sorry to hear baby is still keeping you waiting. Fx they arrive soon!

Hope everyone else is having a slightly better day so far.

Reebok, I so agree about the saliva and the bad taste. It makes everything taste 'wrong', and nothing seems to get rid of it. Hope you manage to get some rest today. There's no doubt that tiredness makes the sickness worse.
After a couple of weeks of not brushing my teeth at all (gross I know), I have finally found a toothpaste I can stand. It's a kids one, orange-flavoured but very mild.
Ealli, I know you must be at your wit's end waiting for baby, and waiting for your HG nightmare to be over. It's a terrible wait, but you are very nearly at the end.
Hope everyone else managing. DP has taken himself and the DCs to his parents for the day, which means the house is quiet, but a little depressing on a Saturday.

Reebok You poor thing, it's bad enough with not getting enough sleep with toddlers without having Hyperemesis.

MotherofPearl I found strawberry kids' toothpaste good too, just rubbing it on the teeth if you can't stand a toothbrush; plus rinsing out with diluted bicarb of soda, though no doubt you're not meant to do that because of salt or some such...Some people swear by those ones they sell in health food shops.
I found barley sugar good for the foul taste in the mouth (sometimes meallic, and sometimes as if you'd been chewing someone's socks or eating out of a bin;sorry, I hope those foul images aren't too nauseating). I did wonder if it encouraged that disgusting saliva..
ealliwson You've been really brave. You'll be going up the drawbridge of the Pink Castle soon.

I use dds strawberry toothpaste but even then just a smudge. Gross I know. Feeling really rubbish. I don't know what to do. The nausea just won't go today at all. I usually have a window where I feel ok for an hour but no such thing today. Dh keeps trying to push me to go for a walk with him and dd. He just doesn't understand how awful I feel right now. A walk will kill me.

Can I join? 6+5 so early on, spent the last week in hospital being rehydrated and having Iv anti sickness , in the middle of a lupus flare , home now and the sickness is terrible again. going to spend some time reading through this thread.

Welcome icant, I really hope all the extra stuff settles down so you can 'enjoy' HG on its own... glad you've found the hospital and rehydration -don't hesitate to take yourself back if you feel yourself slipping again.

Ladies, I found that a child's mouthwash (mac leans 'my big teeth', I think) a god send. You're not meant to brush your teeth for 15 mins post vom (even if you can, I couldn't!) But having something to rinse your mouth with can really make a difference. The mouthwash I used had a really bubblegum smell and I found that sometimes it would help me stop feeling sick to sniff it. I have bottles everywhere (next to both loos, in the car, in the lounge, at my in laws, in my bag!). It's worth trying to find a mouthwash that works (I went thru 4 or 5 that really did not work for me!)

Thank you eallison.
I shall be using that tip re mouthwash too as I struggle with brushing teeth afterwards

Hi all, I was discharged from hospital last night, still with 2+ ketones even though the doctor had told the nurses to wait til I was 0 this time - I think they'd had enough of me! Am glad to be back - going to catch up with the thread now, hope you're all doing OK

Been having a bad day again. Thrown up 5 times .. the ondanstron are not helping I'm on 4mg x3 a day
Any one else same?
My oh is getting fed up with childcare of other 4 children and even considered terminating the pregnancy after throwing up and nearly blacking out.
Yes I am a bad person .. bit I'm really not coping
I wish I didn't have such bad pains in my stomach all day n night .. throwing up is painful acid even though I'm on zantac ..
Dunno how iv done this with 4 children before ...
Need a kick up the bum today xxx

Welcome icant...sorry things are so tough. This thread truly is a life line so stick around.

Thanks for the mouthwash idea eali.

Glad you're out shoop. Hope you're feeling a little better.

Spandau I really think you need the hospital. You sound really awful. Sorry oh is being a prat.

Also feeling crap. Thrown up 4 times so far. Everything I've eaten today or tried to has come up.

Sorry to hear those that are struggling. Spandau I agree you should go to the hospital, how can you carry on like this? Still can't believe you've done this 4 times!

Eallison hope you don't have too much longer to wait. It's so close!

I'm struggling with smells today and the nausea is back, but not complaining as I've had a good week not being sick and generally felt better.

Thank you Reebok it's nice to find a place where others understand.
spandau I agree that it sounds like you need hospital; sounds terrible for you :(

Welcomev Icant, and sorry to hear you're in a bad way. I assume they discharged you with anti-sickness meds?
Spandau, I'm on the same dose of Ondansetron as you are, but it sounds like it's not working so well for you. It's brought me down to about 3 voms a day. Maybe your dosage needs revising by doctor?
Shoop, glad you're home but sorry to hear you still have ketones. It seems that HCPs are really inconsistent about ketones.
thisis, sorry to hear that nasty nausea is returning. It's so draining.
Oh Reebok, you poor thing. It's so miserable. At least this horrible day is almost over.
Keep on keeping on is my motto now.

mother no didn't discharge me with any - they said it was the lupus but had HG last time round , rang my GP but can't get an appointment until Monday so hopefully will then. OOH refused to prescribe as apparently it's dangerous, although I've pre pregnancy anti sickness medication (cyclzine) so will take that tomorrow.

All this vomiting has aggravated my reflux and my chest and throat are on fire. The pain is so severe. The ranitidine isn't touching it. I've been in tears for the past hour because of the burning. Can't take much more. Can't even sleep because it hurts so much. I want that other drug but gp won't risk it until second trimester.

Mop I hope you're feeling slightly better today? Know you've had a tough few weeks.

Waves weakly to everyone else.

You can buy nexium otc now ... I had it before pregnancy
It's excellent
Some ppl have it in early weeks

Do some go ogling and see

X

spandau please don't feel like a bad person - i think we have all felt that desperate at points. go to hospital and your OH will just have to suck it up and deal with it.
Reebok am so sorry to hear you're still so bad - what concution are you on now? when was last time you saw doc/hospital?

So I've spent most of the evening feeling/being sick, feeling sorry for myself and fantasising about all the food in going to eat when this baby decides to arrive. Now, if the last few nights are anything to go by, I'll spend the night lying awake, feeling sorry for myself, wondering if every little twitch and sensation means anything. And getting more and more pissed off with my poor husbands fire the heinous crime of sleeping. Where's the bloody pink castle?!

Oh is being a prat again. Constant complaints this weekend about having to take over with dd. I really don't need it. Woke up feeling sick. Been up since half 5. Days like today I want an abortion or worse yet another mc.

It must be so difficult when your partner isn't being helpful or understanding. Are there friends who can take your daughter for a few hours? Give you both a bit of relief? Maybe another opportunity to try to explain to partner just how difficult this is for you?

Everyone is in a bad way. I do feel for you all, but that doesn't achieve much.
Welcome to ICan'tThinkOfAUserName. Welcome. I can't believe, after you suffered last time, and therefore they must know that you are more likely to get Hyperemesis, that they have discharged you wihtout meds. There must be some it is safe for you to take, surely? I admit I have no idea what 'lupus' is, not being medically trained. I think it would be a good idea to phone the symapathetic and experienced retired doctor on Pregnancy Sickness Support: 02 47638 2020. You have to leave a message, but he will phone back with excellent advice and has helped a lot of women on these threads obtain meds in difficult circumstances.
shoop I can't believe that they've discharged you with 2+ ketones again. Did they change the meds at all, add anything?
I don't know if they have changed procedures; years ago, only your consultant could discharge you. Story to raise a smile: when I was in hospital for an operation, not to do with Hyperemesis, years ago, I was stuck in over the weekend, though I was well enough to go home and taking up a bed, as the consultant had forgotten about me and gone home for the weekend. The staff under him were too scared of him to ring him at home, so I had to stay until Monday morning. Well, that was before all these cuts to the NHS.
spandau Everyone has these dark thoughts, you are NOT a bad person to have them. I'm sorry OH isn't being supportive. Things will get a lot better, but now is hard to get through. I agree with others, you sound as if you need an emergency appointment or to go to the hospital. How are the ketones measuring? Sorry to sound bossy, but when you get to a certain stage of deydration, as you know far better than me, being four times veteran, you stop realising how ill you are or that you need urgent treatment.
Reebok I am sorry that OH is demanding walks (like a dog). Staggering along retching is not fun. He might get the idea if he saw you, but it's humiliating unless you live in the middle of nowhere.
eallison Great idea about the kids' mouthwash.
Apologies to anyone overlooked. Back soon.

Eali, unfortunately I have no real life support. Parents aren't well enough to pitch in and any friends I have either disappeared when I got sick or they have their own young children to deal with/live further away. Have spent the morning ignoring him. He keeps trying to speak to me but I'm not going to waste my breath anymore. Will just have to get through this hg alone. Praying it ends soon.

Reebok Hugs. I wish I could think of something to suggest. Things will get better. Would reading any of the information (not this thread, for obvious reasons) make him understand a bit better? Pregnancy Sickness Support, and so on.
thisisnow How are things for you today?

Eallison sorry you're still waiting, every minute/hour must feel like a lifetime for you!

Reebok massive hugs - it sounds like you're really struggling, I don't know how you keep going to be honest - it sounds really tough

I've only up-chucked once today and that's because I got excited and drank too much Capri-Sun. Missing cups of tea so much. Only 6 months to go (that feels like ages!)

Lucinda and others hope you're all doing okay

Reebok sorry your DH is being an arse. This thread is such a lifeline when other people just don't understand!

Ellison the pink castle WILL come... This too shall pass.

Well my DH has gone out for the afternoon to watch one of the World Cup rugby matches with his best friend. I'm so glad he's gone -he really needs the break. What isn't so great is that my constipation from the ondansetron has chosen today to lift so I'm running back and forward to the toilet and vomiting and pooing in unison! Lovely. Thankfully the DCs are being great and are happily making their own Christmas wrapping paper while I cause chaos around them, lol!