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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 06/09/2015 11:37

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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bugista · 25/09/2015 10:42

I'm so sorry you're suffering grey but well done for finding this thread. We all completely understand and empathise with you as we have/are currently all where you are - it's miserable but I've found this place to be an amazing support and lifeline.

The advice you've already had is amazing - I would also suggest a couple of things (sorry if others already said this!):

  1. Sit down with your OH and explain that this is a debilitating condition that you have and it's NOT just normal morning sickness. I think a lot of people struggle to understand and also get confused because morning sickness is "common" and everyone else struggles through it so why are we different? Vomiting a lot and constant nausea is not normal and is REALLY hard to live with - you have to make all kinds of concessions like the others have mentioned. I'm now 14 weeks and things seems to be getting better but I've been off work since 6 weeks. I hope this doesn't scare you but it's important you get as much help as you can because if this continues all the support you can get will be really useful to you. My mum lives abroad and ended up coming to stay with my OH and I for three weeks just to be my nurse because i was so useless and could only lie in bed doing nothing.
  2. If your doctor isn't being supportive try another one! I say that as someone who has gone through lots of doctors and only yesterday (after 7 weeks of looking!!) has found a doctor that is understanding and takes this condition seriously. I've gone from metaclopramide to cyclizine to see how effective that is, and he also wants me to keep a record of what I weigh and go back and see him in a couple of wks. It's taken ages but this is the sort of medical treatment we ALL deserve but I know from experiences (my own and on here!) that unfortunately it can be hard to find. If you have medical questions there are some amazing women on here who know their stuff and can really help. This is baby #1 for me so I'm a total newbie but I can vouch for how much this thread has helped me - at the very least to keep me a bit more sane!

Your work sounds like the stickiest point at the moment. When/if you sit down with your OH maybe discuss this, see if there any other options? Remember you are sick, this is a very tough illness to have, and you need support.

Sorry, epic message over!! MOP love your comment about the ginger hit squad! Smile

Meerka · 25/09/2015 10:49

Can you try to print out the Meds pages NICE meds here? Also, go back to the doctors with your husband to act as an advocate. Say that it's essential that you can work, or you can't repay the mortgage and that obviously puts your home at risk. Which is not good, when you have a baby on the way.

Lay it on thick. HG often lasts until week 22 (though some people improve earlier!!) and if you're unlucky, even longer.

promethazine is fairly good, but different people respond to different meds. At -this- point, suggest you ask for prochlorperazine as well. You can take both. The best is ondansetron, but it's very expensive and also causes constipation sometimes. Prochlorperazine is a travel sickness remedy and also (at high doses) a good anti-psychotic, but it's a flexible med weith several uses, so don't be alarmed by the scary sound. Many, many, many preg women have taken it.

If this doctor won't help, then perhaps try another... there is another option if that doesn't work, ringing the Preg Sickness Support helpline, but it's better to get the meds through your own surgery if you can.

About the drooling, its a typical sign of HG. When you go to the doc, take a bowl and spit into it. The rest of the time, you can spit down the straw into an empty drinks packet, and put a towel on the bed at night.

When you go, emphasise how bad you are. Don't try to put a good face on it.

Good luck, and post here anytime. Bad preg sickness is absolutely awful, most people don't have any idea how bad it is :(

Ems10000 · 25/09/2015 11:05

grey not really much I can add, excellent advice from everyone as always! Got to your doctors and push for stronger meds, if what they give you doesn't work then you must keep going back. I've tried them all and I am on ondanestron which has helped me massively. I've took meds since week 6/7 and I'm 33 weeks now and still on them. It will get better but rest is the best thing, when you are self employed I know this isn't easy. I pushed myself to work and ended up being off more in the long run. You will get so much support here so please post when you need to x

LucindaE · 25/09/2015 11:22

Greyhorses Welcome, sorry you are suffering so horribly. I can only second the wonderful advice from Meerka TwoDrifters EMS and everyone. Do get those magic sticks from a chemists, you can see from shoop how quickly you can get seriously dehydrated (and she'd just been rehydrated in hospital unless I've got it wrong as I have a couple of times recenlty). Is there any possibility of deferring the mortgage payments just for the duration of this?
shoop As others say, so much for that hostile nurses' dismissive attitude; you were obviously very dehydrated to have collapsed veins, oh dear. I hope they've got it set up and you are starting to feel better.
spandau Those vomiting sessions sound horrific; I have heard of people getting migraines with Ondansetron, but such vomiting as this makes it entirely counter productive. Can you get an emergency appointment? You must be very dehydrated too by now so you may have to go to A and E? Have you got those sticks yet or do you have dry skin, headache, blurred vision etc?
BarmeeMarmee Keeping everything crossed for the funeral. They are bad enough when you feel healthy.
Ems Much sympathy about that Public Puking Performance that made you realise how ill you were.
Bugista Horrors about that treatment you received.
MotherofPearl and everyone, how are things today?
Waves to Meerka and everyone....

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MotherofPearl · 25/09/2015 11:47

Just to say that the glycerol suppositories did the trick for me. Much relief!

Meerka · 25/09/2015 12:03

oh good MoP!

LucindaE · 25/09/2015 12:27

MotherofPearl Ah, the relief. Grin about Ginger Hit Squad.
sapndau Added your date. Very worried about how ill and dehydrated you must be.
Ha, Ha, you youngsters feeling old at thirty-five,the grandmother of the group is certainly Mother Hen. I suffered years ago,and my daughter's at University now.
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Amy 11 November
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Laura 24 November
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Kayme 28 January
RubyReins 6 February
mrsm14 14 February
Mirabel 19 February
mygreeneyedboy 22 February
BarmeeMarmee 10 March
Reebok 23 April
spandau 8 May
Motherof Pearl 12 May.

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BarmeeMarmee · 25/09/2015 12:52

Thanks for the good wishes. I survived without vomiting on anyone thankfully! Now at the airport waiting to fly home again (was up at 4 this morning to get here!)... Feel like I'm ready for my bed already and it's only lunchtime!

Reebok · 25/09/2015 12:55

Thanks for the hand holding ladies. Helps to know I'm not the only one who feels like this. Decided to go for a walk to tesco today and bought myself a doughnut...I usually hate doughnuts but it was the only thing that looks appealing. Feel sick as hell after coming back as the walk really took it out of me. Will probably be in bed now for the rest of the day.

Grey, welcome. I'm sorry to hear you are suffering so badly. I second all of the advice the other wonderful ladies have given you. Forget about the state of your home. I haven't cleaned in 3/4 weeks and my home looks a state but I'm past caring. The job aspect is probably the hardest thing...I'm currently signed off from teaching. Suppose it will be much harder as you're self employed. Anyway this thread is definitely a lifeline. It helped me through my first hg pregnancy and is what keeps me slightly sane at the moment in my second one. Feel free to vent whenever you need to.

Mop, glad to hear the suppositories worked for you and you feel relief now.

MotherofPearl · 25/09/2015 13:31

Food of the day (fx they stay down: ice cold green seedless grapes.
Hope your doughnut stays put Reebok.
You must be exhausted Barmee, do get some rest.

Greyhorses · 25/09/2015 13:41

Thank you to all of you, it's lovely not to feel so alone!

I will go back and speak to my doctors. I have been planning to switch to a new doctor but they require me to go and register and I can't face the drive or the waiting in the que so I have been putting it off.

I'm not sure what to try to eat, I don't want anything at all but I know I will have to try something. Soups and all usual 'sick' foods have made me vomit.

I have spent most of my week lying on the sofa watching films with very quiet volume as I can't stand noise, I have nearly exhausted netflix but have slept through most of them! I am such an independant person I hate asking for help but I am going to have to beg some people to walk dogs etc as they are as bored as I am Sad

bugista · 25/09/2015 13:48

Barmee well done for making it through the funeral- when you get home I hope you can put your feet up and eat! You too Reebok, you're v brave to go down to the shops but sounds like you shouldn't push it any further if you can avoid it.

Mop glad the suppositories worked, that's great. I lived on frozen grapes and watermelon for a few days, yum!

Grey it's often really difficult to find foods that stay down. I mainly went for foods that weren't too bad if they came back up again but it's trial and error. You could try frozen grapes like MoP or watermelon? They help to rehydrate you too. There's a post on the preg support site on foods to try, I'll dig it out.

bugista · 25/09/2015 13:53

Here it is: www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/eating-advice/

Greyhorses · 25/09/2015 14:29

Thank you bugista I am going to read and try and find something I can manage! I am so hungry but can't even look at food!

spandau1980 · 25/09/2015 16:23

Anyone else find food sits in stomach hurting ... gonna be sick pain ... all dam day
My oh and I are not getting on he can't cope with another pregnancy and me being ill and keeps saying we need to look at options..
Feel so lonely
My parenst ll go mental when they find out I'm pregnant again so avoiding them
Feel like a wreck

Reebok · 25/09/2015 18:04

Thanks Mop but it was disgusting. I went through a phase too with ice cold grapes and then stopped being able to keep them down.

Bugista I definitely made a mistake going out...feel awful today but I needed some fresh air. We live in a flat upstairs so no garden. Grey, I pick food the same way...I think about what will be easiest coming back up.

Spandau, my food sits in my throat. I can feel it there for hours after...very bad indigestion which makes the nausea worse. I'm
Sorry to hear your oh is being so mean! Men rarely understand. My oh definitely doesn't but is getting better at realizing he has to take over for a while with dd. Are there any friends around who can help? It doesn't matter what your parents think. You want this baby and that's all that matters. Sending you gentle hugs.

MotherofPearl · 25/09/2015 18:23

My DP mentioned to DS's nursery that I'm not well, and today he's come home with a beautiful 'get well soon mummy' card which they helped him to make. On the front they've stuck a picture of him wearing a little doctor's outfit! It's cheered me up no end, so sweet and touching.

eallison88 · 25/09/2015 18:51

Lots of new names, welcome! Sorry you need the board, but stick around: you'll find much support and advice and a listening ear for when all you need to do is rant! Those of you in those horrid early days when your pregnancy seems to stretch out for eternity in front of you; hang on in there. I remember it very, very vividly. I never thought I'd make it go where I am now (4 days overdue!!!) but by hook and by crook I've made it, and though I'm looking forward to not worrying about what to eat/drink and not feeling slightly nauseous most of the time, since about weeks 25-30 (to be honest datea/times have blurred) things have been manageable. You take each day as it comes (or hour or minute at times!) and you get there.

Reebok · 25/09/2015 19:59

Aw Mop that sounds lovely.

As always Eali, your encouragement means a lot to us. I wish I could fast forward time to be at the stage you're at now...sorry you're overdue! First children tend to be. DD was 10 days over but luckily my sickness had passed besides reflux.

I really must become faster at sitting on the loo whilst vomiting. If I pee myself one more time while throwing up I'm going to scream! Today has been hard...my own fault really for taking a walk outside. Should have known I wasn't ready. I should be 10 weeks tomorrow but according to the scan, it puts me just under a week behind...I refuse to use the scan dates though...it could be wrong right?

spandau1980 · 25/09/2015 20:41

Scan dates and weights are crap... don't think 9 weeks u stick to 10 weeks :)
In my head I'm 39 weeks I wish :(
Bring on the spd and heartburn anything but this ...
Food goes down and it's like I have a footballer kicking it back

Do u puke in a bowl reebok ?
Have you tried tenar lady ?
I pee too hun ... its really glamorous I puke down the loo as cant Bare cleaning a bowel after ....
#hatemylife

Reebok · 25/09/2015 20:50

Does it burn when it comes up like acid spandau? Could be reflux in which case, get yourself on ranitidine (Zantac)....it's not helping me much but some women swear by it. Perfectly safe in pregnancy.

Yep I can't stand throwing up in the loo...I end up feeling sicker and hate splash back.

Suffering from severe heartburn and indigestion at the moment. It kills! I still do not understand how I am throwing things up that I ate 6 hours ago....it's frustrating. Days like today I'm not sure why I bother eating.

eallison88 · 25/09/2015 23:06

I'm a loo vomiter -hate dealing with a bowl. I made myself towel nests and would stay there for hours. I got to the point where I didn't care if I wet myself!

MotherofPearl · 26/09/2015 09:06

Do others find that standing up is a trigger to vom? I lie in bed nearly all the time, propped up on pillows and keeping as still as I can. I feel so lazy watching DP do everything, but then when I do stand up it makes my stomach lurch and nearly always leads to instant vom.

LucindaE · 26/09/2015 10:59

Oh dear, everyone. Suffering all round.
greyhorses and bugista It varies so much for everyone - but numerous sufferers say nibbles of crisps, sometimes chips, jelly and cheap ice cream are a bit more bearable, but opinion is divided about crisps re-appearing...
MotherofPearl A number of people on here have said that lying down is one of the few thing that helps. I hope you soon get past this awful stage.
Barmee Goodness, I didn't know you had to fly; that was brave.
spandau How are those pesky ketones? That sensation is horrible; it's dreadful when you have it all day.
eallison Very nice of you to post encouragement when you must be fed up with baby dilly dallying on the way.
When I suffered - which wasn't for long compared to many here, and was long ago, I staggered about with a bowl because I wasn't a Polite Puker, who can hold it in until she reaches a loo, and then do it silently...Horrible sound effects have always been the order of the day with me.
Somebody, sorry, I can't remember who, recommended adult colouring books and it sounded just the thing to cheer you up. Audio books are highly recommended, too, so you don't have to focus.
shoop How are things now?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked; watch me cross post.

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eallison88 · 26/09/2015 11:48

Oh I lost the silent puking ability very early on! Still, the ease of a flush and go, as it were, always won out over a bowl!

This baby needs to hurry up and get born so I can stop vomiting. I'm so, so over this! Though its nowhere near as bad, practically it's really very difficult!