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Cannabis whilst pregnant!

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MorgansMummy24 · 22/04/2015 22:04

As if I have just been to the shops for some late night snacks (feeling ravenous) and there is a lady outside the shop with a man, she is quite heavily pregnant and clearly smoking a joint of cannabis! Im really angry! To think of the people who miscarry or cannot concieve! I feel sick to my stomach, rotten!

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:16

But he didn't because as you say, you cannot charge somebody for the murder of an u born ( well you can but you have to prove they intended to actually kill that unborn child and that's hard)

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SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:17

well anyone can write anything and publish it on the internet, doesn't make it true!

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:19

Very true, there is nothing concrete but it's about taking that risk isn't it and in my opinion a good mother should try to minimise the risks to her unborn as much as possible. Maybe I'm wrong to judge but I will continue to do so when I'm walking past a shop and inhaling the fumes

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Amyyy27 · 23/04/2015 09:21

Im a bit confused as to the posters who are saying there are no studies/no proof ... i would imagine no one in their right mind would want to test the theory on pregnant ladies which would be why there is very little evidence..

Once again... why risk the baby? What are you actually gaining from smoking (anything) and drinking? That baby did not ask to be created. The least the mother could do is protect and care for that baby the best they can.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:22

there is proof however that alcohol consumption can lead to fetal alcohol syndrome so now I'm wondering is it safer to smoke cannabis than drink during pregnancy. I could drive myself mad with all this Hmm

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LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 23/04/2015 09:23

You are wrong to judge.

As my GP said to me while I was pregnant, if she can get some of the women on her caseload off heroin during their pregnancies, then they're going to over-use cigarettes and hash, but actually that's a win in her eyes. Some people are living desperate lives in desperate situations with desperate levels of addiction.

You can hold yourself to a higher standard without judging others.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:25

They chose to put drugs in their body not me, just because I don't take drugs it doesn't mean I haven't had a shit life, I will judge believe me

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Number3cometome · 23/04/2015 09:27

It's wrong on the level that a joint is made with cigarettes which we know full well is bad for unborn babies. Personally couldn't give a shit what has happened in her life, we've all had a crap time, doesn't mean we smoke weed.
Chances are she was already a smoker and just carried on.

I used to smoke weed pre-children, you have to be very careful as some dealers will mix some types (skunk) with coke or crack.

You can't stop her smoking in public, no one can, and reporting her won't change anything.

Some people just cannot see the link between growing a healthy baby by doing everything possible to prevent issues and just carrying on with their normal life. It is her choice and she will have to face the consequences should her choice of lifestyle affect the baby when it is born.

I know plenty of people who have smoked weed throughout and had normal babies, and others who have terrible asthma problems. I also know someone who smoked weed constantly and her child was born with one kidney. Who knows if they are linked.

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:28

" I used to smoke weed pre-children, you have to be very careful as some dealers will mix some types (skunk) with coke or crack."
well I do not know who you were buying it off, but that is complete bollocks.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:34

It's true though, do people really know what they are putting into their bodies when they buy it off street dealers? I agree with number it's a risk they take and may have to live with the consequences and harsh realities

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newbian · 23/04/2015 09:37

MorgansMummy in the craving wine thread, it's not just talking about cravings. There are women posting about drinking. I've seen plenty of posts on MN where people say it's OK to drink while pregnant and if you suggest otherwise you'll be called judgmental.

All I'm saying is babies need neither alcohol nor weed, but from the point of harm - one joint unlikely is more dangerous in any way than one glass of wine. So you need to be consistent. Go lecture those ladies in that thread if you're so high and mighty!

lucycant · 23/04/2015 09:40

The medical research is that small amounts of alcohol do not cause any problems. It is not being non judgemental, it is actually looking at the evidence.

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:41

thats right morgansmummy - there are not loads of babies born with 'cannabis faces' are tehre? Yet FAS babies are ever so common, now I think of some of the facial features of children at infant school and indeed my own friends. therefore I think you should save your ire for 'wine o clock' mummies. Or is that less satisfying to rant about?

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:42

I don't need to lecture anybody, most people know what they are doing is wrong and do not care and that bothers me when so many women cannot concieve or miscarry and are desperate for a baby to love and care for, I am entitled to have a rant about it as are you to have your opinion and clearly plenty of people share my view

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SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:44

well rant away, but I really do think that alcohol is more harmful if you want to get on a high horse about something.

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MorgansMummy24 · 23/04/2015 09:45

I don't disagree but I didn't come across a lady in the street drinking alcohol I came across one using drugs and after a horrible miscarriage last year I felt the need to offload

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lucycant · 23/04/2015 09:45

Sunny - You are diagnosing FAS by looking at children you know???

Amyyy27 · 23/04/2015 09:46

I believe this thread was about weed... the woman was not drinking a bottle of wine outside the shop.. or have i read something different..

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:46

well I am sorry that you had a miscarriage, it must have been awful for you.
But I do not see what it has to do with a random stranger smoking some weed. AFAIK weed does not cause miscarriage.

lucycant · 23/04/2015 09:47

Obviously smoking cannabis is not going to be good for a baby. But I am sure she knows that. And yes, you don't know about her life. Maybe she has managed to come off crack when getting pregnant for her baby, but is still smoking cannabis.

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:48

lucycant there was one child at the infant school with classic FAS features, plus his mum took an E and went into labour when she was coming up.
Another friend of mine definitely had those features.
Sorry if derailing slightly, but I do think we shoulld look at the bigger picture

lucycant · 23/04/2015 09:49

Sunny, FAS is rare. I do not think you should be going around diagnosing it in children you know.

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/04/2015 09:50

lol well I do not as a rule tbh, just that one child's features were classic FAS, plus I knew his mum and what she was like.
I am not sure it is that rare.

LadyDeadpool · 23/04/2015 09:51

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1957518
The results show no significant differences in developmental testing outcomes between children of marijuana-using and non-using mothers except at 30 days of age when the babies of users had more favourable scores on two clusters of the Brazelton Scales: autonomic stability and reflexes.

From a five year study done in Jamaica.

I'm not defending that woman's choices but pointing out that different studies have shown different effects.

Coyoacan · 23/04/2015 10:05

i would imagine no one in their right mind would want to test the theory on pregnant ladies which would be why there is very little evidence

I don't know of any studies on cannabis, but I don't see why there wouldn't be any. A friend of mine was in a study on the effects of tobacco in pregnancy.

OP, I'm sorry for your loss, but a quick look at wikipedia says that there are no known adverse effects from smoking cannabis during pregnancy.

I find when I start getting all judgy about other people's behaviour it is actually to avoid looking at something I myself am doing that I don't like.

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