Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

elizabethsmum I would have killed dh!

newshoes that is why DH was sent packing ??

Hi everyone

Sorry to hear everyone is still suffering. Today has been horrendous so far and it isn't even lunchtime. I just want this vomiting to stop! To top it all off I have bloody constipation and need to try and drink and keep down 300ml of metamucil. Oh the joy.

Re: the toothbrushing, this pregnancy I have had some success with clove-flavoured toothpaste from an Indian food shop - mine came from spicesofindia which is an online supplier. Not sure how effective it is compared to ordinary toothpaste but using this I did manage to at least attempt toothbrushing at some point most days, even during the worst bit, whereas I remember when pregnant with DS there were quite long periods when I couldn't even consider it.

Here's a link: www.spicesofindia.co.uk/acatalog/Dabur-Clove-Toothpaste.html#SID=3553

The Neem shampoo has an incredibly soothing smell I found too. But weirdly I have found Indian spices helpful right through both pregnancies. In hospital they switched me to the halal menu for a while because I had a fractionally better chance of managing to eat a tiny bit when the food was very spicy.

Wonderful to hear about okla's baby!

auntievemon you have my sympthay.

My DHs sis lives on the next street with my MIL and PIL. She doesn't work - my DH has given her a lot of support over the last three years as she has been in and out of prison. DH asked if she could watch the dds once a week for the two hours between after school and DH getting home. She said no 'cos its 'only pregnancy sickness' and DH shouldn't be enabling my attention seeking My mam and DHs parents all work full time, my dad part time but awkward hours. Of my two friends who live close by one has recently had surgery and the other a third baby. My neighbour who helps occasionaly has just lost her husband. I'm utterly and totally drawing a blank on childcare My dad has managed to rejig his hours this week and DH is taking some unpaid leave but cannot from next Monday and will have to do 9 till 10 shifts six days a week from Monday for four weeks. So I have seven days to get better Fuck. Anyone got a miracle cure?

willow
Well she sounds like a bloody delight. .
I wish I knew the answer for childcare help. I'm struggling too. I feel like I'm already taking the piss with friends etc. Nightmare.

Poor you Willow, how old are your DCs? I'm lucky in a way that DS is 6 so not physically reliant on me (although still pretty demanding!) and he can be reasoned with and understand Mummy is ill. Also DP will set up things like a packed lunch for DS and do as many jobs as possible before he goes to work such as put a load of washing on, and will take over as soon as he gets home. Can your DH do enough so that during his work hours you only have to do the absolute minimum? Obviously that depends on ages of DC.

Hope everyone is feeling okay today xx

They are 6 and 4 but my eldest is very emotionally very young and doesn't cope well entertaining herself and me being ill causes her a lot of anixety.

Oh that's tough, and how horrible that the ILs are so dismissive. I really hope you can work something out, and that you start to feel better soon. How are you getting on with meds?

goodness me willow, last time you'll be helping her out .. "attention seeking?!"

Im sorry, can you remind me what meds you are on? the situation -is- extremely difficult. You may need a combination of meds. Can your husband go with you to the doctor to explain the situation?

Read through and take a copy of the NICE guidelines that Mother Hen linked above. They are the best practise guidelines from the government's own body of clinical excellence. They give the Goals of treatment as being able to carry on as normal a life as possible and they also suggest which drugs can help. A combination would probably give you the best chance to carry on, but you need your doctor to understand how dire the situation is :(

Really hoping something works out for you.

How you doing basgettit and newshoes

< waves to everyone>

Hi meerka
Am off work today-although sickness isn't coming til evening lately, I just feel knackered. Still have a vile bruise along my vein from the drip last weekend too. Ds1 back to school today, ds2 with a friend of mine while I lay here trying not to vomit as per.

How are you feeling?

I'm doing okay Meerka, bit retchy but keeping the vomiting at bay. Starting to get other symptoms now related to late pregnancy, I've got quite bad pelvic pain and struggling to walk much. I've also still got that rotten abdo pain, but I'm now starting to wonder if that may be connected to the baby's position, everytime she attempts to move I wince. Her head is up by my ribs at the moment!

Hey everyone. I need some advice because I've reached a point were I'm not sure if I'm just being a wuss. I've been put on ondansetron and I'm keeping a bit more down to the point were I don't need to be in hospital. However I am still sick everytime I get up and sometimes still laying down. The first thing I do in the morning is throw up and I feel terrible all day. I still can't leave my bed. Do I tell the dr? I feel like there rant really any other meds I can take as I have tried metoclopromide and cyclazine already. I still can't eat anything. Do I need to man up and deal with it or do I need to see a dr?? I'm not sure how much of this is healthy or normal.

glitterbug yes you do need to talk to your doctor. The NICE guidelines say that medical treatment should enable you to lead a relatively normal life.

I'm just back from the docs and was basically told that as i am not vomiting i don't have a problem He has given me prochlorperazine to try instead of the cyclzine. I felt dismissed. Im getting worried about the dangers of long term being in bed.

glitter that doesn't sound right to me.. you poor thing

willow your pregnancy just sounds identical to mine. Prochlorperazine has stopped me going back into hospital but that's probably about it.

glitter yes go back to the doc. Ondan is the strongest you can get but other meds work in different ways. Prochlorperazine is a stronger version of cyclizine, which is an antihistamine that does help some people (quite a few find that a combination of ondan and cyclizine together help). It also makes many people a bit sleepy which is great, its the best way of getting thru HG. Just don't drive if you get sleepy on it! (if you can drive anyway :s)

Promethazine works on your sense of balance which also has an effect on the feeling of nausea.

Metoclopramide works by emptying the tummy faster, giving you less to throw up.

Many people find a combination of meds that work on different thigns help. I'm afraid that may be the best option and that nothing will make things actually normal until the HG passes :(

Some people have found acupuncture helps though. I think mother hen did.

willow it's miserable being in bed all the time isn't it :( I don't think that many people here have found any problem from being in bed most of the time though, in the year and a bit I've been here.

newshoes Im okay thank you, even better now the squeak is sleeping a bit better =). I do find that things are weighing on my mind a bit ... a year ago that I got uterine infection leading to sepsis from the placental test (there was no Harmony in the NL then). Was so ill from the HG that I didn't realise I had a temp of 40.3 and was dangerously ill. We so nearly lost our Squeak ... So very, very glad we came out of it, him and I. I went into hospital on the wed this week a year ago and somehow I find it is still taking some coming to terms with.

Hope you are surviving ...

Oh meerka! Sometimes these worries/realisations creep up on us and torture us. Remember little squeak is safe and fine now. Thank goodness.

Oddly this has made me reflect a lot on my first pregnancy- a decade ago! I was 17 and so anxious and depressed not a day passed that I didn't think about suicide until he was placed into my arms!
Sorry I'm emotional today..

Oh goodness newshoes that must have been a terrible time. I hope you didn't have HG too then He must be a big young man that you're proud of now! For all the misery of HG, this pregnancy has got to be better than that ... better support systems!

Glitter how much ondansetron are you on?

I'm not on much at the moment as I have an essay due on Friday...

Hi. Just wanted to mark my place.

Am 9+4 and after people and even myself thinking I was just 'extra sick' for the past 4 weeks I've finally been diagnosed.

Been in hospital on a drip and some meds to try and get things under control. Home now and have even eaten a satsuma and a bag of marmite crisps so things are looking up!

Hi bubalou, I always feel a bit better for a few days after having fluids, hopefully you can keep improving! Have they sent you home with meds?

I'm still retchy but remaining vomit free at present, very uncomfortable at the moment though, baby feels like she is trying to move but can't and it really hurts! I've had a good morning though, DP is off today and after an unsettled night I stirred this morning to find him about to leave for the school run. He'd basically ordered DS not to disturb me, got him ready, done his packed lunch and taken in our early delivery of online shopping, and all I had to do was present myself at the top of the stairs to kiss DS goodbye. Could get used to this!

Hope everyone is doing okay today xx

meerka I didnt have hg with my first-I wish I'd made the most then!

basgetti that's ao lovely! Well done your dh!

bubalou glad you're being taken seriously! I hope you improve steadily. Do you have any medication at home?

I'm on 4mg of oden. I'm scared nothing is going to work. It has helped a little as I'm only being sick about 5 times now and not 30 odd but I still can't walk about or eat.

glitter if you can't eat at all you need to see someone again. Even if you are managing to drink a bit if you are completely unable to eat you will start to starve - it is actually starvation not dehydration itself which produces the ketones. I have (repeatedly) been in the position of still producing 4+ ketones after a full week in hospital on a drip because ultimately water alone does not keep you alive!

The max dose of ondansetron is 8mg 3x a day so it sounds as if they could still put it up (though watch out for the constipation). Also a lot of women find that even if the other drugs didn't help much or at all on their own, they can still be useful in conjunction with ondansetron, so it might be worth trying e.g. alternating cyclizine and ondansetron so that you take something every 3-4 hours rather than having to wait 6-8 each time.

Realistically, you may not be able to get out of bed during the worst few weeks if you are in the unlucky worst bracket, but you do need to be able to eat something and keep it down.

Hi all.

Yes they're trying me on promethazine tablets at home but it really knocks me out so I may ask them to try something else.

It's so nice to find some where with others who can really relate to this. Bless the people on my antenatal thread but I think a lot of people on there and in real life must think 'stop being a wimp, you're pregnant not sick'!

Just eaten half an apple and a breadstick - woohoo!