Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Actually why am I awake at 4.57am?! Damn bladder!

It's ridiculous isn't it? At least I'm not alone in my wee vomit episode.

Has anyone found gaviscon to be any help? My stomach feels like a damn volcano.

fraggle Im afraid the last few weeks can often be a bit worse again, either juts a bit or to the point of it becoming pretty miserable ... Though never ever as bad as the first weeks.

The only plus is that at least the end is in sight, even if it does feel a long long way away!

newshoes god, the 'leaking'... arg. If it helps, if you squat over the toilet/bowl/bucket with your knees on the ground, you can rest your crotch on your heel so it's pressing against where you wee from, it really helps.

emsy great timing by your OH there .... I hope he didn't just turn tail and run!

bagsetti hope you feel a bit better soon.

I am my parents for the half term as i am utterly incapable of leaving the house - the cycline has stopped the vomiting but im dizzy and the nausea is so bad it stops me sleeping. My dad just told me this morning that i don't seem ill as im able to eat im forcing myself to eat every two hours as an empty tummy = vomit. Why do people think i would make this up?

newshoes i once simutanlousy vomited and peed on a midwife Up till then she had been very dismissive of how i was feeling but was much more sympathetic after that.

re food everything tastes crap and i feel sick anyway - i think.its more smells for me. I can't set foot in a shop for example and struggle cooking for the kids. Images don't bother me. Ice lollies don't work for me.

newshoes there is no harm in trying gaviscon. Never helped me but always worth a try.

and emys good luck with the scan

meerka I'll try that technique!

willow sounds like she deserved it if she was being unsympathetic! [Mean]
Why do people feel the need to tell you that you "must be fine". It doesn't help matters!

Seems I went to bed a grumpy bitch, and I've awoken a grumpy bitch. As predicted.

I'm personally already sick of people telling me about poor princess kate who's over hg at 16 weeks. Baring in mind I had it (less severely) until 24 weeks last time. I'm not related to kate. My pregnancy won't mimic hers.

Morning all

Weeing while vomiting. Yep. I never did find a solution to that. I know one of the girls on here just used to take her pants off so at least she didn't have to change her clothes afterwards.

NewShoes Gaviscon just made me puke. I got ranitidine tablets from the doctor which helped a lot. Or some prefer to prescribe omeprazole. Either work well.

Emsy good luck with the scan!

Willow glad you have support, they'll realise how bad it is eventually. It took my parents a while too but they got there in the end.

Fraggle I started getting worse again towards the end too. And you're uncomfortable too as you're heavily pregnant. It's not much fun but I don't think anyone has ever been pregnant forever so it will come to an end. Eventually!

Still no Oklette...

Is anyone else finding their body seems to be rejecting their OH? I've always loved the way he smelled but ever since the HG started I've been completely repulsed by his breath, his natural scent, and being touched or kissed by him. This sounds so horrible but it's got to the point where we can't even sleep in the same room. He's trying so hard to be understanding but I just seem to be getting worse.

Am really dehydrated right now and it seem the worse I'm feeling the more I can't be near him. When I came out of hospital a few weeks ago I felt completely better and was snuggling up to him back to normal, then the sickness kicked back in and it's just got worse and worse ever since.

Has anyone else had this? I feel SO guilty at all the effort he's putting in and how much I'm pushing him away...

red I've heard of this happening quite often yes. People have even found the smell of their own little children unbearable :( that has got to really hurt.

Would it help him to read this thread? therés so many odd quirks to HG that you never thought of .. the endless saliva and bad taste in the mouth was one that really was an unexpected but surprisingly unpleasant aspect for me. The smells thing is just awful though too. Anyone smoking 4 houses down could make me upchuck :/

Hi all, being admitted again. I'll update when I can.

Hope everyone is okay xx

fraggle with DS I had my best patch between about 25 and 30 weeks and then went gradually downhill again, I never lost it again completely though and I did manage to go into work two or three days a week the last couple of months (despite being on crutches with v. bad SPD). I was always sicker the day after going in but it was worth it for the morale boost/feeling normal.

This pregnancy has been worse in every way - I didn't get out of hospital at all until 14 weeks and I was on big dose of steroids for months whereas I never had steroids last time (though maybe should have done). I am 27 weeks now and definitely already sliding - I am being sick a lot more than I was at this point last time, despite being a lot less active because the SPD is much worse too - I am already housebound which I wasn't completely last time till the last few weeks. To be honest I still spend most of my time in bed! I only really get up to spend a bit of time with DS in the morning and evening, to go to the hospital for the endless appointments, and to cook dinner.

So basically I think for the unlucky few a 'slide' in the third trimester does seem quite common, but I am hoping that like last time it will never get as bad as the beginning again. I am still eating OK and in fact I am more likely to be sick if I don't eat regularly enough. Also after a long period of slow/no weight gain, I have finally put on a few kilos very quickly in the last few weeks and I have a real bump now so that's reassuring (though bad for the SPD).

basgetti you have had a really dreadful time, it seems like they have never really got on top of it. What medication are you taking at the moment? Have they discussed a slightly early induction/section for you? I'm afraid I've forgotten your history - was it as bad as this with DS?

Oh basgetti I just saw your update. Poor you. I hope they are nice to you at least.

Hi kali quick post whilst I wait for taxi! Was bad with DS but not this bad, was over the worst by 28 weeks. This time it's just relentless, they give me fluids, send me home with meds and after a little boost I go downhill again. I have cyclizine, stemetil, ondanestron. Can't take metoclopramide. Also on ranitidine. Not keeping my meds down at the moment, last admission I had low potassium and liver enzymes all raised, MW said I need to come in for blood tests and fluids. Been told by about 3 different people now they will likely offer me induction any time after 37 weeks depending how bad I am.

My hospital are lovely, always very kind and seem pretty clued up about HG so I have no worries there. x

oh dear basgetti I'm sorry you're so bad again. Have they considered steroids? though they may decide against. But this is just endless for you :( you and kali have gone through murder :(

Oh basgetti :( I hope being in hospital at least provides some temporary relief for you.

basgetti You poor thing, so sorry it's this bad. Thank goodness they are clued up in there. Cyber gentle pats.
Fraggle Oh no, that is so disappointing - that horrible escalator puking episode impressed me - I'm amazed you've battled in to work so long after it. Lovely to have you with us again, but sorry about the circumstances...What meds are you on?
Kali I'm so sorry it's even worse this time round. I thought it was amazing the way you actually managed to do some lecturing last time as it was...
GetTheRedOut Me too, it's so upsetting - i found the body scent of OH I had loved I found sickening and disgusting, and had to hold a lavender satchet to my nose when in bed (right at the other side).
Oklahoma Sorry no baby yet. Oh dear...
Oklahoma emysmarieNewShoes WillowHouse GettheRedOut and othes, lol, the knicker removing sprinter was me. I managed to wet myself when puking in bins in the street, too.... Oh dear, emysmarie That is grotesquely funny, it's so awful and demeaning. Meerka's advice seems very good, quite expert, lol.
NewShoes I did find gaviscon made me produce a lot of strange foam when vomited up, but it was comparatively painless, much better than bile...
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored, or with whom i've cross posted.
xx

So in a not-great development, DH was suddenly struck with severe abdominal pains and D&V at 7 this morning; the D&V ran its course within a couple of hours as you'd expect but after four hours he was still in totally unrelenting severe pain - really groaning and pacing continuously. I even gave him some codeine I had and it didn't really do anything. In the end we rang the GP for advice at lunchtime and he sent him to A&E! He doesn't have a temp - in fact his temperature is low - but he said the level of pain wasn't really normal so I guess they have to exclude appendicitis etc. I can't really be alone with DS as I'm not meant to lift him at all on account of my collapsed pelvis, but fortunately our nanny has agreed to stay this evening until a friend of mine gets here, if DH is still stuck in A&E as seems all too likely.

I have spent the whole morning staggering around the flat desperately disinfecting everything in a probably vain attempt to prevent us all getting it if it turns out to be just gastroenteritis/norovirus or whatever. On the plus side, the whole flat now reeks of Dettol and weirdly I find that the smell is really helping my nausea! How odd. Thought I would mention it in case anyone has some dettol lurking in a cupboard and wants to give it a try . . .

gettheredout everyone smelt absolutely vile to me for months; perfectly clean ordinary people smelt like a homeless unwashed person even from right across the room, unless they had literally just walked out of the shower. Was awful. Men were worse then women and women worse than children, but even toddler DS smelt bad to me at the absolute worst bit. One good thing about being in hospital is that the smells are muted (except at mealtimes). My sense of smell is still very sensitive but not as bad as during the worst sickness phase, so you probably won't be stuck with it for ever.

basgetti thank goodness you have a good hospital at least, who are doing their best. I wonder if you'd had steroids for a bit earlier on you would have been able to get it more under control? Even though I've been off the steroids for about 6 weeks now I haven't been back in hospital, and I think psychologically they helped a lot because they helped me feel like eating which meant that despite the worse vomiting I haven't lost confidence in eating as much this pregnancy as I did last time.

kalia how frightening - i hope you get some answers soon.
and bagesitti sorry to hear you are back in hospital

I've had enough and im only eight weeks pregnant. No idea how im going to make it through as last time i was sick until dd2 was born. Just want to be able to run around with my kids. Not helped by my friend (who doesn't know im pg) bleating about how sad she is to be coming to the end of her wonderful last pregnancy and how she'll miss it. Just once i would like to experince that kind of pregnancy.

I'm glad to know it's not just me. We have to sleep in different rooms :( He's being so caring and kind, I just feel guilty.

Oh willow sounds like we are due at a similar time! I don't know what to say in way of comfort, but I hope by some miracle things improve for you.

I also can't bare the smell of my husband. It's so weird. Just another revolting side affect.

I've just vommed up the stupid cyclizine.

newshoes if you vomited soon after taking it you can just take it again as you won't have absorbed it anyway.

willowhouse I totally sympathise! When I was 8 weeks people kept telling me it would go away at 12 weeks and I'd feel much better then! Such flaming ignorance. At 14 weeks and no sign of improvement! I don't know how you were able to take this on again after one HG pregnancy already, huge respect to you! I've told DP I can't do this again and I've even told him if he wants more after this one we'll have to look into surrogacy. This is after 4 solid days of vomiting every 20 minutes, including all night.

It's so tiresome hearing about other peoples perfect pregnancies isn't it? Some soul destroying about it.

gettheredout my two dds were with an ex and my dh badly wanted a child. The docs promised me drugs - i was breastfeeding last time - and so i agreed. As i've been on the drugs from day one i've only had the odd vomit it just the relentless nausea and bad taste thats driving me mad. But im back to the docs next week and i'll try different drugs. I would never have even considered it without my wonderful GP. Last time i was under a different doc and just kept being fobbed off with the usual 'ginger and seasickness bands'. However i do also think my brain blocked out the worst bits and its hard, much harder than i remembered. And longer - why does it take forty weeks?

Because babies are completely unreasonable and selfish and have a ridiculously long gestation period. I will seriously punch the next person who tells me about ginger biscuits.

Me too. Especially medical professionals. If ginger biscuits worked would we all be living this through choice? Of course fucking not.
Imagine if someone broke an arm and we went "oh just stretch it".