Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Just wanted to report that for me, so far I have had no nausea at all. 4+6, and reading back on my previous pregnancy the nausea was on/off from 4+5 until 6+3 when the vomiting began.

I'm really hoping taking the medication early has helped.

I'll keep you updated.

thanks. I hope that when we're back that people are having an easier time ... everyone having it difficult atm :(

bas you're keeping an eye on your ketones? it's really unlucky to have it so bad for so long :(

Ketones +2 this evening Meerka, I think I'll be back in hospital by the end of the week. I'm taking cyclizine, ondanestron and even trying buccastem again even though it's useless and tastes foul. I don't know what else to do. With DS I managed just with cyclizine and was much improved by about 28 weeks. I never expected this, its bloody relentless. Is it cos I'm a fair bit older now? Or because it's a girl??

Hope everyone else is feeling okay this evening xx

I think it's sheer sad luck :( though being older doesn't help. I did notice the difference between preg at 38 and preg at 44, even though I was fitter before getting preg the second time.

Hg just varies quite a bit

Thedetective that's really encouraging, if I ever fell pregnant again. Although dp and I have made a pact to stop here at 2! Mainly because of hg it has to be said, originally we thought 3 would be our limit.
bas hugs, so sorry you're suffering this far along. Sounds like you're doing everything you can, hope you can get lots of rest.
I have been signed off until 5th November at my request and have an appointment with the doctor to discuss alternative medication. I am not sure if I should just lump the nausea and lack of ability to do anything other than exist as the cyclizine has done what I wanted it to, allowed me to eat and drink. From reading other people's stories nausea appears to be pretty hard to budge?
Hope everyone is ok. X

Muddy that's where I ended up. Nothing would shift the nausea. I took the drugs, lay on the sofa and managed to keep down enough food & water to stay out of hospital. It's not much fun though.

I hope Freckle is feeling a bit better. Muddylettuce You are so right, rest is as important as meds in the early stages, the nausea will tail off along with the vomiting as time goes on, but it's very hard to bear. Yes,it's worrying about poor Glitterbug. I think she is probably in hospital.
basgetti You poor thing, this is too bad at this stage. Really feel for you heading for admission at this stage. Gentle cyber pats on offer.
Oklahoma I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
Waves to elizabethsmumand wishes Meerka a lovely trip.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked or with whom I've cross posted.
xx

Hi all, just checking in to say 'Hello'.

So sorry for those who are still suffering so badly. Basgetti fingers crossed you don't end up in hospital again.

Meerka have a lovely time away I have found that HG has got worse the older I am. I had DC 1 at 19 and was horrendously sick but it went away at 14 weeks, DC 2, I was 23, vomiting not as bad but nausea was horrendous and went on for about 25 weeks, DC 3, I was 30 absolutely horrendous, really acute vomiting, awful, awful time but went away by about 20 weeks. This time around, I'm 34 and HG hasn't been as acute as last time but the nausea has continued throughout, in fact I think it has got worse in the last few weeks.

Thankfully I am now 36 weeks and have a date for my ELCS......14th Nov......so there is an end in sight. I have also been asked by the consultant if I want to be sterilised at the same time.

I do because a) 4 DC's are definitely enough, b) I cannot go through another pregnancy feeling like this, c) I cannot put my family through this again, it's not fair on them.
But having done a bit of research on this I have found that having this procedure at the same time as a C-Section is not as successful as it normally would be and that a male vasectomy is much more successful.
The easiest thing for me to do would be to have it done whilst I'm already having an op iyswim but I want it to work. DH is not that keen on a vasectomy but will go and have one if I'm not sterilised. I feel guilty for wanting him to do this as me being done would be so much easier. I do feel really strongly however about giving us the best chance of not ever getting pregnant again and I would never have a termination.
Does any of that make sense? What would you do if you were in this situation?

In your situation - and I am in it, no WAY do I want another preg, nor could I live with a termination myself - I'd actually wait til I'd healed up from the preg and then get sterilized actually. That tiny chance is just too big a chance to take, for me.

I'm waiting til jan til we can change our insurers here (1700euros for it :( ) to one that will cover it and then I'm getting done. I'm -never- getting preg again, my husband is young enough to start again should anything catastrophic happen. It makes sense for me to have it.

But no method of contraception is failsafe except a hysterectomy and they won't give me that. I did ask! Our first son got born despite 2 forms of contraception. So I'd go for the method that gives the lowest risk possible.

Admittedly I'm paranoid now !

muddy Im afraid that almost nothing helped the nausea for me; metoclopramide a bit, a tiny bit. Ondansetron rather more, the short time I took it. But I'm afraid it was a most unwelcome guest for the duration :(

I was told that it makes the c-section recovery more painful and lengthy if you are sterilised at the same time as a c-section. I'm not sure what to do. DH faints at needles or even the thought of them so I was due to be sterilised before falling pg with DC5. But, I think maybe DH just needs to 'man up' as I don't do well with hormonal contraception and the thought of an unnecessary GA makes me think it's better for us if DH is done. Also, he has a very busy job so I know that he will only rest if he knows that his recovery is at stake. I doubt that he will give me much recovery time at all.

Thank you for you thoughts, it's nice to talk to people who understand. A couple of friends I mentioned this to (husband and wife) were both horrified at the thought of me being sterilised as they thought it was so "final". That is actually the idea.

Meerka I don't want to have to go back for another operation and the consultant was of the attitude that he didn't want to have to open me up again.......although if this is what I decide to do then I will do regardless of what he thinks......but I can see where he is coming from.

NoRoom I hadn't realised it can make the recovery more painful and lengthy, not really what I want as I feel my body will be under enough stress already. Last time I had an infection in my wound and my milk didn't come in properly for 2 weeks, DD was losing weight and I was eventually put on Metaclopromide for it's lactating side effects. My MW at the time thought that it was because my body was under so much stress.

It's a tough decision as my DH is still fairly young......we both are but he's 4 years younger than me so is young enough to start again should the worst happen.

Thanks guys, that's as I feared. I will go see the doctor anyway and check in but as the cyclizine is working I don't want to make any changes that might upset the fragile balance I have going on here.
Made epic mistake today, dp and I booked a venture photography session today months ago before I got preggers. So we went along, stayed out of the photos so just dd got snapped thank god because I look like death. Anyway, just the effort of walking a few hundred yards from the car park to the venue and back had me vomiting horrendously even when there was nothing left to come up, retching over and over. Now all I can taste is blood. Urgh.
To be fair it could have been the smell of garlic coming off dp that did it, I have banned it from the house but he was on nights last night and eveidently got his hands on some. Normally I love garlic and shove it in everything but it's my nemesis at the moment. I have also had to ask dp not to use his usual deodorant because the smell sets me off! I kinda feel like I'm picking on him a bit poor bloke.
Hope everyone has a good evening. X

Hi all, stopping back in after a bit of a backslide at 23 + 3. Couple of hectic days has upset my stomach quite a bit so I'm back to sipping cola and hoping for the best. I'm loving the increased movements and it ALMOST became enough to remember the horrors of weeks 6-19, but currently being reminded of exactly why I don't think I would become pregnant again. I completely empathise with those choosing sterilisation or just making the decision to not try again.

I'm at a stage where I don't want to be pregnant again; although I know my DH would love two DC. I can't wait to meet our little boy and I am so excited to be a Mum... but I'm not entirely sure I could be a pregnant woman again and I'm only just halfway through.

Hope those that've been hospitalised are seeing some improvements. Much love xxx

Sorry, I meant enough to FORGET, not remember!

Hello guys. Just got out of spending a few days in hospital. How comes in the hospital I felt kind of okay, wasn't sick once and then as soon as I get home the flood gates open!!! Hopefully I can avoid another admission till all my needle marks have heeled lol. Currently stuck in bed with a bucket at the moment. Also found out I am 8 weeks as I got a scan! So already now I know that. Best wishes to everyone suffering x

Glitter Good to hear from you, we were all worried. When were you admitted, and what have they got you on?
Frenetic Poor you over relapse, disappointing. I hope everyone's not suffering too badly. Nice to hear from Mampam too, so sorry it hasn't let up this time. My goodness, FOUR Hyperemeiss pregnancies, I think NoRoom is at number four too, you deerve medals...
Leaves clucking anxiously...
xx

evening all..
glitter sorry you are suffering again so soon after coming home- did your keytones come down ok in hospital. my worst phase for admissions in second preg was one admission a week for 5 weeks (7-12). I was usually much better by the second day in hospital, came home and ok for a couple of days and then quickly back into the same state. Please go back to gp asap if it is all getting out of control at home again.

fraggle - sorry for relapse- I had one at about 23 weeks in first preg and ended up back in hospital. it is very disheartening I know xxx

there was no way I was having a second pregnancy after the first....we waited 4.5 years and then irony of ironies- twins and even worse hg. dh virtually ran to the gp to request the snip when the twins were a few weeks old as we definitely did not ever want to risk another pregnancy and as the straight talking practice nurse at our surgery said 'I should think so! God knows you've done your bit'!

Apologies I meant frenetic although waves to everyone on thread!!

Hi all. So sorry to see everyone suffering. Glad you got admitted glitter even if it's horrible being in hospital it's good you got taken seriously. Hopefully your support network will come together now. Do ring the pss number. Actually considering volunteering once the newborn phase is over. I'm sorry about the relapse frenetic. Take it easy.

Much like others we thnk this will be our last pregnancy. Originally wanted 3 but can't imagine having 2 toddlers and being out of action for so long again.

Nausea beginning to return here but not too bad and seems to be related to stress.I have a tendency to panic about food now and still shun healthy food. Still faint and feeble; spent about 40 minutes lying under my desk at work today. Fortunately/ worryingly nobody noticed!

Good luck and hope you all sleep well

So tired of this now. Had a discussion with DP about how many children he realistically think we can have. We've always said we want 2 or 3 and to have them relatively close together. HG has changed my feelings on this massively and I told him that I honestly don't think I can do this again. He's quite gutted, been very quiet tonight.

Had a really really bad day on Sunday, nothing stayed down and I was again sitting on the bathroom floor for prolonged periods due to the frequency of vomiting fits. In between, I did try to drink but it was no good. Yesterday was slightly better and today I managed to keep down everything I ate (not much, just toast bit better than nothing). Really trying to avoid another hospital visit. 12 week scan is tomorrow. I'm Trying to get excited but really can't muster and enthusiasm at all.

Hope everyone else has had a better day x

This is my 6th pregnancy. I've had hyperemesis in all of them. My first was the worst because I didn't know enough to get myself treated properly.

My last one was the best because I demanded various medication/treatment. It resolved at 14 weeks.

(I had 3 TOP's for HG in between those two pregnancies)

This pregnancy I've been taking pre emptive cyclizine and I'm 5+1 and still feel great. Not a jot of nausea. Feel just like me. Not even having side effects from the cyclizine!

Ill keep reporting back here as to how things go.

But just putting it out there for those who are thinking about future pregnancies. I started it at 4+0.

Wow Detective - 6 pregencies with HG you are amazing.

Went back to doctors as Cyclizine was only working for 3 hrs. Changed to Prochlorperazine - works better don't feel sick when lead down but as soon as I do anything - move to have a shower etc then I am vomiting again. And boy it does make me feel so tired.

Doc signed me off work for 4 weeks which is great - hopefully post 1st scan.

DH away on work until tomorrow night - so need to do pick up of kids and bath / bed by myself - dreading it ( which I feel terrible for thinking) - wish me luck

Glitter can only echo what Elletorritoelizabethsmum says, don't hesitate to go back if you get dehydrated again and am sure you've got the famous kesostix now. elizabethsmum* That in and out must have been so dismal.
Eletorrito People didn't NOTICE your lying under the desk??!!!
DuckyGood luck from me. It is very hard, I honestly don't know how people cope with LO's with this horror.
TheDetective Hugs. It must have been so hard.
GEttheRedHoutI know just how you feel. I didn't go for it again, partly because daughter was sleepless and I got such dreadful migraines besides the sickness I just didn't know how I'd cope, but I do regret it a bit to be honest.
Hope Everyone is coping today. watch me cross post with someone...
xx

Ducky glad you got signed off by the docs, try and rest up as much as you can. Glitter I am so relieved you got treatment, hope you are resting as much as you can at home. Eletorrito that's unbelievable, I thought my work was bad for not noticing I was in the loo for 45 minutes! I like to think they might have noticed if I was on the floor!
How is everyone today? So many people seem to be struggling.
I am still soldiering on. Went to see doctors today (hour and a half wait for my appointment though! Was exhausting). She agreed not to change meds, said to rest and signed me off work, she will review in two weeks and basically go with what I say. She reckons this week is when the hormones peak and so I should be feeling better soon. Pah! I've heard that before! Not holding out much hope.
Finding it hard to feel positive about anything right now so understand how you feel gettheredout, how did the scan go?

Hi everyone, just checking in and haven't fully caught up on posts yet but I was discharged last night. I felt a big improvement yesterday when in hospital, managed to eat and drink the best I have so far in pregnancy. Unfortunately, similar to you Glitter I feel terrible now I'm back home. I haven't been sick but the nausea is persistent.
I suppose in hospital in a single room there are minimal smells and triggers, but back home the smell of anything from cooking to the bin to a scented candle will trigger nausea.
I've been signed off for 4 weeks. I was absolutely gutted by this as of made me think about feeling this way for another 4 weeks, but I know the reality is it could be longer or it could be less, we just don't know.
I also found being in a maternity ward very hard and upsetting at times; I could hear babies crying and relatives visiting. Everytime a new visitor entered a room to meet a newborn there were "aaahs" and "ooohs" galore - lovely of course and I don't mean to sound nasty at all - but I felt so detached from it all. I'm 11 weeks today and I don't feel the magical feelings, I don't feel pregnant, I just feel really ill.
Is that really awful to say!?
I also feel like I'll never meet these babies, as if this is far too hard to be healthy and they will give up on me. It's terrifying. x