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OH SH*T............................

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 22/09/2006 15:12

I'm 99.99% certain that there's a very faint positive line on the pg test I've just done. It is very faint, but compared to one I did the other day I'm sure there's a line there. And it is still a couple of day until AF is due.

Need to go to the chemist and get another one just to make absolute certain but I'm not feeling very optimistic that it's going to show a negative.

SHT SHT SH*T

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mymama · 23/09/2006 10:42

In the end you need to do what you want to do. Woman's right to choose and all of that. Can you live with yourself if you carried throught with a termination?? I don't sit in judgement as I was in a similar position before ds2. We had "thought" of having a number 3 but had decided against it when I fell pregnant after a biggish night. I was hopeful but devastated. It was me who wanted to terminate and even made the appointment. We fought daily and were just getting together financially. Then my dh asked if we would be able to find out if it had been a girl or a boy . Thinking of it in those terms I could not do it. Throughout pregnancy I was resentful and excited. Even now 3 years on I still have moments where I wonder what our family would be like without him, but I also cherish him. If you go ahead with the pregnancy your dh will come around. It is a lot of work but you get there in the end. But will you resent him if you go through with a termination?? As for the money thing - you will scrape by.

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 10:43

I managed to get some sleep - unfortunately we seem to be speaking even less today and last night. I think I must have tossed and turned a lot and disturbed him as about 5am he went downstairs and slept on the sofa. I got up about 1/2hr ago, and he was getting ready to go out to work (he's a few more sales to meet his bonus target this month - a bonus which we rely on!) and announced that he would be going up to Manchester as soon as he got back.

He's got some stuff to deliver to a cousins DH. This cousin (in Zimbabwe) has been on her own in Zim for nearly 5yrs and apart from phone calls the DH hasn't been back. DH has a package with a home video, letters and school certificates to deliver to the DH and hopefully will be able to persaude him to save to fly out to see his family.

So I doubt we're going to get much chance to talk today

Sounds crazy but when I got up I did the last pg test in the box.........just to check it wasn't all a bad dream - but of course it was still positive.

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jessicaandrebeccasmummy · 23/09/2006 10:47

QOQ - {{{{hugs}}}}

Please follow your heart. I was bullied into a Termination when I was 18 (pre DH and 2 gorgeous girls) I didnt have a choice in the matter, and i still grieve for that baby to this day. Luckily for me, the father of that child proved his worth and I am now in a loving relationship. Although pregnancy would be the WORST thing that could happen to us right now, we could not and would not terminate. Just because we cant get our shit together, doesnt mean i shouldnt bring a new life into this world.

I do believe that in your heart of hearts, you could not go through with a termination, and although the timing isnt brilliant, you will cope.

We are all here for you whatever you decide, but please please please do not be bullied into doing something you are not 110% happy with.

You are in my prayers QOQ xxx

hunkermunker · 23/09/2006 10:55

Carrotcake's post is very wise, I think.

QoQ, you've been in my thoughts constantly.

I keep thinking about your posts some time ago about DH being the one to make final decisions - please don't let him make this one, sweetheart. I truly believe it will break you as a couple for sure if you terminate x x x x x

jabberwocky · 23/09/2006 11:06

QofQ, I haven't been on MN much lately and have only just seen this. I am so, so, sorry. An unplanned pregnancy is such a difficult thing. I encountered this many years ago and did have a termination. However it was absolutely my decision and I still had a lot of problems with guilt for years afterward. I know it was the right decision for me at the time, but that didn't make it easy by any means and no one should pressure you into making such a huge decision. You know in your heart if you can and should keep the baby or not. Listen to that little voice and trust what it tells you.

Much love,
jabber

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 11:25

Thanks Jabber - the more I think about it the more I realise I CAN'T have a termination. I just have to find a way (and a time!) to sit down and explain to DH that I believe that me having a termination I don't really want could be worse for our relationship than having the baby and battling on.

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 11:27

And now I'd better get on - my brother just called me - he's coming to stay for a few weeks so DH and I can get some extra hours in to hopefully pay off a few more bits of debt. I'm still dressed, need to go to Morrisons yet (think we'll have lunch in the cafe....), and must do some housework - otherwise DH is going to come out with the old "if you can't cope with the housework with 2, how are you ever going to cope with 3" line!

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jabberwocky · 23/09/2006 11:28

I think when he realizes how you feel about it he will come around. It's so different for men, isn't it? With my second pg I have really lowered my expectations of dh's involvement. He never really cares much about feeling the baby kicking or anything. But, once ds was born he was head over heels and I know he'll feel the same about this one.

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 11:40

oh great - he's just called and told me he may need to be in Manchester overnight /

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WideWebWitch · 23/09/2006 11:42

I hope you and dh manage to resolve this QofQ, just wanted to add my sympathy to this thread.

Rowlers · 23/09/2006 11:42

Not much to add - just sending you my congratulations as I think that's what's called for!
I hope all works out for you.
I'm very jealous of your fertility! - would love a second one.

Quootiepie · 23/09/2006 11:45

Not really said anything on this thread before because I wasnt really sure what - but congratulations. You have made the best decision and you will never ever regret it. ((hugs))

Beetroot · 23/09/2006 11:56

QofQ

Congratulations

Firstly, don't let this become your problem and fault. You both made it. You tried to stop it happning and it didn't work. Now you both have to come to terms with it and be together on this.

You may well find it hard to cope, sometimes, that is ok and normal. Together you can get through it.

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 12:00

just written him a note and am going to print it out. Any thoughts on the matter (ps the "assume" thing is from something he told me a few weeks back - in a happy conversation "never assume or you'll make an "ass" out "u" and "me"). Don't even know if it makes sense or if I've explained certain things well enough. What do you think???

I thought the easiest way to explain my feelings about this pregnancy issue would be to write it down for you to read and hopefully that way you?ll understand how I feel. We do need to talk about it as well though, but I think me telling you some of this in writing first will hopefully prevent any arguments over it.

I listened to everything you said last night. That our relationship needs work, our finances need sorting, and the Zim thing could be an issue too. I can?t deny our relationship needs work, some serious work particularly on my behalf. We need to spend more time together for ?us? without the boys there to try and find each other again. We?ve both changed since we married and I know that we need to find out how each other has changed and understand it. Our finances definitely need sorting too, but we?re getting there.

I know that you don?t want anymore children, and that this must have come as a horrible shock for you especially as we were just starting to get sorted now the boys are just that little bit older. I should have checked that you were wearing a condom that night, and I?m genuinely really sorry that I didn?t think to check. I was stupid and just ?assumed? and this time it?s definitely made an ass out of me. I really do want to make this relationship work, I don?t know what I?d do without you. And I don?t want the boys to grow up with us constantly bickering at each other. I love you and want to make you happy. However this issue of termination is a huge one for me.

I?ve never believed in termination, neither from a personal or religious viewpoint. From a personal viewpoint it takes 2-3 weeks (yes I?ve looked into it already) to actually have a termination. By that time the baby will have a heartbeat and limbs will be starting to form. To me that?s totally different from the morning after pill where is simply (sometimes) stops a fertilised egg from implanting in the womb. From a religious viewpoint it?s against everything I believe in. I took the Morning After Pill because I hope it would work by delaying ovulation, or stopping the sperm from reaching the egg. Which to be isn?t abortion. But what you?re asking me to do is to kill our baby, and deep in my heart of hearts I can?t do that. The bible tells us that life begins at conception, and that has already occurred ? so as far as I?m concerned life has started.

From the Dr.s point of view it?s highly unlikely that they?d actually give me the termination as two Dr.s have to agree that not terminating the pregnancy could damage the mothers health, either physical or mental. With how strongly I feel about this baby, a baby which you know that I have always hoped for (but not for several years to come ? and only if you?d agreed before conception!) I don?t know if I?d be able to convince them that keeping the baby would damage my mental health. In fact I feel strongly that me having an abortion which I don?t really want could only add further problems to our marriage. As much as I love you, and want to make you happy, I?m not sure I?d ever be able to get past the trauma of aborting. I?m worried that I could resent you for wanting me to have it and that could drive us even further apart.

I want to keep this baby and uphold my strong beliefs on abortion, but at the same time I don?t want to lose you. Please could we both have a few days to think more clearly about this and then have a proper discussion.

I?m not sure this makes total sense, but hopefully I?ve explained my feelings better than if I?d tried to explain it all in words.

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hunkermunker · 23/09/2006 12:10

DON'T take so much blame for it. HE is the one who should've worn a condom - it's HIM who didn't want more children now. It's not just been a shock for him, it's one for you too.

If he's worthy of your love, he will NOT force you into a termination, I really believe that.

And it's not just you who needs to make more effort - stop being so down on yourself, sweetheart x x x

3andnomore · 23/09/2006 12:10

QofQ...I think your letter is really good and hopefully it will help your dh to understand beter where you are coming from!
LOl at the "assume" part...but why should you hvae checked he was wearing a condom? Is he not old enough to do that himself? Fair enough, if the woman takes the pill for contraception that the woman is responsible to do so, but if the man is supposed to wear condoms, then surely that is HIS responsibility not yours?
But I don't know all the ins and outs...of course!
Anyway, just hoping that all will pan out for you!

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 12:13

I do feel partly responsbile for him not wearing a condom as we usually both make sure we've got protection (ie condom) - he was a p*ssed as a fart (told him he shouldn't have drunk whisky AND wine!) and I was tipsy........

Right now need some help on a even more urgent thread here at least want to do my best in other parts of our relationship ATM lol.

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hunkermunker · 23/09/2006 12:17

His responsibility to drink that much too, QoQ. Please don't let him off the hook here. He's an adult, responsible for how much he drinks and where he puts his pecker

PeachyClairHasBadHair · 23/09/2006 12:18

QofQ

That letter is just fab, well done. But don't purely blame yourself for the condom: it's a JOINT responsibility, really it is.

I understand your reluctance to trerminate: i don't habe the same religious beliefs as you but I ahve the same moral ones and I couldn't do it either.

Sending you hugs and if there is anything I can do please do feel free to contact me.

You're one brave woman and I admire your morality. Always have done.

Tutter · 23/09/2006 12:22

QoQ just caught up with your thread. so sorry you're going through this tough time - really hope it turns out to have a happy outcome.

i think the letter is fab.

fayelily · 23/09/2006 13:37

I feel so emotional reading all this as I was in the same situation last August.We had a condom fail on us. My husband was very keen for me to take the MAP. I chose not to and found myself pg with no3.
You have to give him time to get his head round it. DH was very quiet, all I wanted to do was talk about it. After a very big emotional row, it was accepted that we were going to keep the baby. I spent the whole of the pregnancy feeling very guilty. As it progressed,he slowly started to come to terms with it,but there wasn't much enthusiasm.He had a vasectomy when I was 27 weeks,and felt better knowing that 3 children was definatly it. In April I had ds and he is so thrilled with him. Everything is absolutely fine. We are both very happy with our 2dd's and ds. When your DH see's his new baby I'm sure everything will be fine. I must say though I am only just stating to lose the guilt feelings.

mumandlovingit · 23/09/2006 13:37

good on you. great letter.i think it really explains how you're feeling about the situation and hopefully he will take it in and realise just how strongly you want this baby, his baby.i agree with the others though, dont blame yourself for the lack of condom.its not just your responsibility.i hope you get a good response from this.you're being true to yourself which is all you can do.
CONGRATULATIONS
you've got a tiny baby growing inside you.look ater yourself and try to stop worrying so much.sounds silly but what will be will be.once you've said how you feel the balls in his court so to speak.

wools · 23/09/2006 13:40

QofQ, sorry you're going through this turmoil at the moment. I think the letter you have written is great and I hope that you will work things out with your dh. Like the others, I think once he's recovered from the shock he will come round to the idea. Wishing you the best outcome.

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2006 13:43

Well I hope so. In some ways it's quite good that he's going to be away for the night (I've found and booked a room - after 2hrs of hunting!) as he can take the letter with him and read it in peace without me hovering "wanting to know his thoughts".

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mumandlovingit · 23/09/2006 13:46

it'll give you the chance to let things sink in abit and give him the chance to really think about it all.
once that babys in his arms all this will seem such a distant memory.
good luck.do you know how far you are? i recall you're only 4 weeks?