New posifrickentivity thread for pregnancy after miscarriage.

[squizita]

Hand holding and fish slapping...

Hi everyone

Had a lovely long lie-in today. Was exhausted after final week at work and busy day with visitors in the morning and shopping in the afternoon. There is a limit to how much I can do without having to stop for a rest now!

Am sort of ready for baby to come now, even though I'm not looking forward to the actual labour. I've finished work so will have time to sort the last bits and pieces quite quickly.

corpore try to distract yourself from the cm. I think if you are getting movements it's more likely to be from physical exertion. I had a little tinge of pink yesterday and I'm sure it's from being on my feet so much when I'm not really able for it.

radley I hope you will find it friendlier here. Lots of people will hold your hand or fish slap you or panic alongside you on your journey.

I might even add myself to the stats list now!

Having a wobble. Posted over on childbirth about usual time to come off clexane.
Bearing in mind I'm under Lesley Regan's team, so I was more concerned about lapses from her expertise by a junior doc.
Someone replied saying they were on it until the day before they were induced... And I aught to get a proper consultant.
Is this the norm?!?

I'm at the national centre ... Surely they wouldn't do it wrong as policy? They don't induce and (because after the post I rang and checked) 34 weeks is the norm?

I've never heard of clexane/heparin so close to birth... Surely this could cause hemmorages?

I'm terrified because on top of this I saw on FB on a Hughes Syndrome charity post someone just posted their (undiagnosed) sticky blood caused a stillbirth. Of course it was undiagnosed so the placenta was probably under attack throughout unlike mine.

Oh my, ds just launched himself, slamming down on my bump :( hurt. Hope baby ok and going to ramp up knicker watch to every two mins

Sorry to hear about your cramps and cm badger. It could still be all ok but I know it's hard to stay positive when it's been like this for you previous mcs.

squiz - sorry I know nothing about all those drugs. Maybe ask the RMC group to see what they say? I'm sure docs at the clinic are pretty hot on all this stuff for obvious reasons. I would call then if you are worried / want to talk it through.

Hi radley what a journey for you. Hope you find us more friendly here and this is a happy healthy pregnancy too.

corp I think movement is a good sign and prob just causing some small bits of blood to come out. Try take it easy for next day or so.

Hi all need a bit of advice if no one minds? Have had terrible sickness the last few days. Can't keep anything down and even water turns my stomach. The only thing I can sip is flat diet coke but am worried about my caffeine intake? I did ring my midwife and she said if it carries on for a few more days to ring the GP but does anyone here have any suggestions?

Welcome radley and all other new people joining wishing you a happy and positive 40 weeks

Badger - fingers and everything crossed that it's not what you fear x

You tried sparkling water ellis ? One of few drinks I could consume. Or go for the caffeine free diet coke if you are worried. Hope gets better soon

Hi all. Hope everyone is well,

Badger please don't give up hope, you never know what's happening inside.

Hi addicted. Welcome,

Big waves all, I need the fish today please, I'm such a tit can I be slapped, the doctor put me on antibiotics for my bacterial vaginosis, i was meant to do two a day but only managed two first day then reduced it to one and yes I was physically vomiting with it, so my sickness hasn't been from being pg at all, it's a lack of symptoms now, I have none sore boobs now and again, but no tablets today and no sickess. Wails........ Wet fish or worry some?

Ellis try ginger ale it works when pg with ds 1 not beer though.

Badgers fx for you, hope a false alarm.

Fedup how worrying but I'm sure nature has evolved bumps to be toddler proof!! Take it easy and call the maternity helpline if you're worried?

Ellis I found cream soda worked like cola for some reason. Also fizzy grape/vimto.

David my sickness came and went and all I had for some time was mild sore boobs. So as long as you're not in pain/red blood, don't panic. :)

Self fish slapped using the emergency anchovy I keep for such occasions and read the big published books I bought about heparin. So the upshot is, if you're on heparin from 6-34 weeks and baby is normal, your chances of live birth are the same as for non clexane ladies. There is a greater risk YOU will have high blood pressure, and your baby may be small (but not dangerously so) or early (but again, weeks not months). So say the expert books. Some women with severe APS stay on and are induced in case they get clots themselves (doesn't apply to me).
Will take my books with me to next appointment and ask to be off at 34 weeks.

...and the 70% success rate includes 1st trimester losses for all reasons covering 29% of losses and the rest being sadly 14-24 weeks. So basically, by 34 weeks placenta and bubs can hang on in there till delivery. Big phew.

replaces anchovy into travel case and pops back into handbag

Having a wobble. 6 weeks now and I have my scan on Friday morning when I will be nearly 7 weeks. I'm panicking about them not finding anything. I've had some mild cramps today and my symptoms don't seem to be consistent. Argh. Slap me!

Sea salt my symptoms were on/off till over 7 weeks, its quite normal. :) No reason why the scan will be a problem based on stop start symptoms this early.

Badger try not to lose hope yet. I've been there and thankfully so far baby is hanging on in there I'll staple baby to my uterus if needed Keeping FX for you.

Thanks Fed Up and Ellis I'm feeling very welcome already.

Squitz I was on tinzaparine (same as clexane) until two days before I was admitted to be induced. However, I was on the injections mostly for me thanks to my wretched lung tumours and a previous DVT/PE. This time I started earlier (the day after a positive POAS at 4wks) to try to help baby because of all the MCs. So I think when it's for baby stopping at 34-36 weeks is perfectly normal and stopping 2 days before labour (how's that even possible with spontaneous labour as opposed to induced?! Lol) is normal if injections are to stop blood clots in mother. Hope you get the reassurance you need.

I have a 'feeling' that all will be ok with this baby, the same feeling I had with DS (when I was told it was twins I told DP not to get excited as I 'knew' we'd only have one). So I'm hoping that I'm right. However, I'm still obsessively knicker checking and stare at check the toilet paper after wiping every time I go to the loo, and this is much more frequent than I'd like! I'm also over thinking everything, much more than is healthy. I am lucky to be having a scan every two weeks but even so it's still not enough :( Thinking of buying a doppler so I can listen to baby's heart beat before s/he starts kicking me - anyone think it's a good idea or is that just a receipe for manic OCD worrying?

Addicted Thanks, yes that's exactly what my reading suggests... If I am not at risk they stop at 34, if not they control and induce.
Re dopplers... Like you I thought it would make me even more paranoid so I didn't get one. But some find them reassuring. Mind you even trainee mW struggle to find the HB sometimes so I reckon I would be too clumsy!!

Squiz that's exactly what I was worried about! I'd be ringing EPU (or gynae ward if out of hours) and telling them I can't find a heart beat on the doppler, I'd go all the way up to hospital in the early hours (dragging the entire family out of bed!) and then find all was well. Yes - I can see that happening. Perhaps it's not a great idea

How on earth did our parents/grandparents etc cope before scans? You'd just have to wait and see for 9 months! I couldn't cope with that, 2 weeks is bad enough let alone 40

I've not got a Doppler for those reasons too. Would panic if I can't find it. So am going on the kicks now ( this obviously only works when they start kicking) but that period between 12 and 20 weeks is hard as can't feel movement regularly.

One of the pluses of the 'olden' days is they didn't POAS - they had to go to doctors something like 8 weeks after period was late! Must be so frustrating knowing you are preg but not 'official' but worse if period was just late.

Hi all, thanks for the reassurance over the weekend. Naturally after much stress and grumpiness, the spotting has stopped this morning. That may have been a nice sunny Sunday ruined by panicking needlessly then. Aaaargh, how many more weeks? Hoping that I can get an early scan, although if not I shall pay for one. I'm going on holiday for 4 weeks soon so really want to know before then if it's progressing okay, since I won't be particularly close to medical attention.

SeaSalt, my symptoms are really on and off too - yesterday my breasts felt completely normal, today it appears that someone has attached two huge and painful appendages to the front of me and I can't do anything without them getting in the way. I'm only a B cup!

seasalt just keep thinking you are still pregnant. There's no reason for your worries is there?

addicted I haven't got a doppler. I think before, they wouldn't know there's a MMC until they actually bleed. My mum told me she has to go to the doctors and did a blood test to confirm pregnancy. There's no such thing as POAS. In a way, I'd imagine they have less MC because not many would know at 4-6 weeks, would they? They might think they are pregnant, but then if they bleed, they'd just assume it's a late period. Hopefully the EPU can confirm a heartbeat for you.

badgers hope you are ok too.

I did a bit of baby shopping today. I went online and bought some cheeky wipes! They are reusable baby wipes and they are having a 25% today and tomorrow. I used cotton wool with water with DD last time and it was a major PITA. A cloth nappy friend used them and they looked fab. I'm still going to use disposable nappies though. I have eczema and DD too. So I can't imagine new baby wouldn't so I won't be able to use disposable baby wipes for maybe 6mo. (They are quite harsh chemically and lots of babies end up with ugly rashes. That's why the recommendation is to use cotton wool + water). So if you have eczema or sensitive skin, I would definitely recommend having a look at reusable wipes.

I'm in my third trimester now and the terror household is in omg we better start preparing mode. We cleared out 1/2 the junk in the drawers in the guest bedroom. (Just have another chest of drawers to go). After that, it's just getting rid of the junk chests and putting children furniture in.

Did everyone have a nice weekend?

I've just had to hide that thread I started over on childbirth.

I keep saying Mr Rai is my hematologist at St Marys and other posters just keep saying "get a hemotologist" and recommending ones up North, and insisting the St Marys team don't know what they're talking about. It's getting quite triggering to my anxiety.
It's like before, almost everyone I knew on my regimen came off clexane at 34-36 weeks, and induction wasn't required... over on childbirth apparently that's the norm and death happens otherwise... pretty sure so many hospitals wouldn't let clexane ladies have natural births then?!?

squizita but surely the ladies on MN aren't expert hematologist either? We all know the perils of listening to health care advice online. In the end, you'll just have to trust the opinion of the experts. And do you trust St Mary and Mr Rai?

Squiz if you have concerns contact your team at St Marys. Mumsnet can be great for support and general information but for anything else you need to be guided by the experts

Well after spending yesterday laying on the sofa with a sick bucket, ginger ale and watching dolly on the tv I woke up this morning feeling fine. Then I got to work. Am now at my desk feeling woozy and queasy again. Only 6 more working hours to go.....

ellis it will pass! The first trimester is absolutely horrid.

Yep One and Ellis exactly I trust St Marys (tbh online lots of people don't because they are so big on APA/APS and womb shape so if you ain't got that or a cervical/uterus issue they ain't got your answer ... but I DO have that!! So I trust them). And TBH I don't care if Prof Regan is brisk and too clinical (another objection to her) so long as her team give me the right dose!
I really think it's a typo from a more junior member of the team. So a mistake has been made... but not one meaning I need to be induced!
I've rung Mr Rai's secretary and basically said "as he prescribed it, please can you get him to confirm it's 34 weeks I'm to stay on it till not 32?" As he works ob/gyn on Friday and RMC Tuesday, somehow I will get an answer before my next appointment. :)

Squiz, it's exactly as One says - they're not medical experts and don't know you or your medical history. If you could diagnose and treat someone online then none of us would ever set foot in a surgery or hospital. Hiding the thread sounds like by far the best idea! Trust the medical professionals who have seen you and been treating you successfully up until now.

Question for those of you in the 2nd/3rd tri.....

Was there ever a point where your early preg bloating went down, before your proper bump appeared?
Im 9+3 (with a good scan at 8 weeks), and tummy is feeling quite a bit flatter today (plenty of tiredness/sore boobs/no bleeding). Please someone tell me this is OK! And then can I just hide in a cave until 12 weeks please, this waiting is driving me insane!

gail I don't think I have a tummy at 9 weeks. I remembered going to my 12 week scan in my normal work trousers and they are the tight no elastic type. So I'm sure it's ok!