Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Welcome sambo you're more than welcome, glad the doctors have put you on some meds and that your DH is looking out for you. That's how my hospital admission came about too, as I laid on the bathroom floor sobbing that I was just being pathetic and puking my guts up, DH phoned 111 and a paramedic later I was in hospital! It's hard to recognise the signs yourself when you are so ill, take it easy, the more rest the better ATM.

kalidasa sorry about your news, there's never a good time but this seems particularly horrible for you

kalidasa I'm so, so sorry to hear this. I agree with lottie that there is never a good time, but this is especially awful when you are stuck in bed. :-( I hope she is okay, especially as it sounds as though she beat cancer last time. My thoughts are very much with you and your family.

kalidasa I am so sorry to hear that. I really hope that they can give your sister the treatment she needs. It must be really hard not to be in a position to offer practical help. Maybe your sister could come over and watch some feel good films with you or something, just to give you some "together" time?

Sambo sorry you are feeling so awful. My hospital admission last time came about in a very similar way - DH called out of hours on a Sunday. They insisted on speaking to me, I just kept vomiting mid-conversation, they sent me to triage and I was kept in. I have almost avoided hospital this time (one admission, send by GP first thing in the morning, but I was out again the same evening after a bit if pleading) as I think I know better what to expect and how to deal with it (and if I am truly honest my HG is mild compared to many people's, although that is a hard thing to admit when you feel this bad!) - first time you just try it out a brave face on it for as long as possible, and don't quite realise how "not normal" it is until it's gone too far).

Nothing doing here. Sofa is starting to mold to my shape. I caved and ordered a doppler, which arrived today. Inevitably I couldn't find HB, then did find it and it was too slow. So I googled and panicked and eventually tried again, and found it at 170, which is fine for this gestation. First one must have been mine. At least it took my mind off the sickness for the hour that I wasted.

some totally know what you mean about the sofa moulding to your shape. I feel the same about my bed, too! Nothing wrong with time-wasting and I'm glad you finally got that Doppler working properly. For me, I've just started knitting a lace scarf in a moderately complicated pattern, because I figure it will keep me occupied, plus I don't care when/if I finish it. Although, the yarn is very nice heather-coloured, silk/mohair mix, so it would be nice to finish it...

Sick again this morning... and the baby is now upside down. Really panicked me because it now feels as if I'm physically ramping up for the final push (as it were). So, bought all the final bits and bobs on my spread-sheet, including nappies etc., in a big online blitz and feel a bit more prepared, at least in terms of 'stuff'. Just need to sort my mind out, and this may take a bit more time :-/

khali I'm so sorry to hear that. What is up with these last few days :( is she going to the Marsden for treatment? I'd highly recommend it if she hasn't been referred there already.

starry don't worry they flip around a lot up to around 35 weeks. My consultant said first babies get settled and comfy head down quite early on. Daisy went breech around 31 weeks to my horror then went back to head down again around 34 and stayed there.

Kali I am so sorry to hear that. What awful news at this time when you'll want to be with her. I am so sorry. My mother did beat two goes of cancer, your sister is obviously far younger and if she's anything like you, she's a fighter, and that's what's needed. Hugs. Thinking of you.
xx

Kalidasa very sorry to hear about your sister, I wish her all the best.

living thank you so much for settling my mind!! I know it sounds so stupid, but I had a panic attack when I realised she was upside and kicking me in the ribs after my morning throwing up. I thought my sickness meant that my hormones were surging and gearing me up for birth, and then for her to go upside down... Complete panic. She's still upside down, so must be comfy.

kali so sorry to hear your news. Can't say anything that hasn't already been said but sending thoughts to your families.

Hello all, can I join? I don't know if I really got here as I had Ds only 6 months ago, I am now almost 10 weeks pregnant again. When I was pregnant with Ds I was in and out of hospital for almost all of the pregnancy on drips. I found out I am allergic to a lot of anti sickness drugs (ironically they make me faint and be violently sick). This time around I am no where near as bad. I am still ebony sick on average about 5 ish times a day but it was double that an hour in the last pregnancy. I therefore don't really know how much can be classed as 'normal' morning sickness?

Thought i would say up anyway though of you don't mind as I'm finding it hard with Ds to look after too!

Living sorry to hear about the problems your having. Ds was in hospital twice on iv antibiotics and spent 10 of the first 15 weeks on oral antibiotics! You have my sympathies and sending you both hugs.

Belong here not got!

Being not ebony, hi not up and if not of!! So sorry I'm on my phone. Stupid predictive text!

welcome Dec2013mummy! Sorry you're feeling poorly, although it's good that it's not quite as bad as last time. Being sick 5 times a day is still far from normal IMO (although I don't really know what normal is, and I'm forever being amazed by people who seem to sail through pregnancy or don't even realise that they are pregnant until months in).

It will be lovely for your children to be so close together in age, although I can see how hard you must be finding it with such a young baby. This is DC3 for me and I am such wimp, after every pregnancy I've said "never again" then time has slightly faded the memory, but this baby will still be 3.8 years younger that DS2 (and there are 2.5 years between my DSs).

Dec2013mummy Goodness, you poor thing, you had scarcely had time to recover from the last lot, and a young baby, too. There is no way this is normal MS, vomiting five times a day. Do make an emergency appointment at the doctors for meds. As you had such horrible experience of this illness, I am sure you know all about getting kesostix from a chemists to check on dehydration. How are liquids staying down?

xx

Thanks somesunnysunday and lucinda. I will go to the chemist and the docs next week if no better. I know they are unlikely to prescribe me anything though and will just send me in if bad enough!
some I said never again, I must have short term memory loss!! Ds is just so cute though so it reminds you why you do it! Dc3 wow, congrats :) I always said I wanted 4 but have told husband this is it (I know I'll probably change my mind once these 2 are a little older though)! I won't tell him that yet incase I change my mind! My nan had 4 and she said she was less sick with each of her pregnancies, so let's hope I'll follow in her footsteps!

Oh and lucinda I am keeping bits of liquid down... SmLl sips and all that. Thanks for the concern.

2 lots of vomit already this morning. Long (90 min) drive ahead of me with dh & a mate this morning, and very little good in the house (BIL ate it all!). Really not feeling great but no option but to go - was just contemplating a banana when I sat up and vomited. Grrr. Not sure if I brought up meds or not so can't take another just yet.

Ick, good luck sasseh. My last attempt at a long(ish) (an hour) car journey (only as a passenger) on Monday ended up with me vomiting in a field for ages, and DH and DS1 almost missing the train to the airport to take them home. I don't envy you.

Welcome Sambo and Dec. I managed to miss the fact that I had HG in my first pregnancy - I only had nausea, very infrequent vomiting and my doc said it was normal!

Oh kali I am so sorry to hear about your sister. Stay strong if you can.

living Strep B testing is standard in France - I find it so weird that standards differ so much from one country to the next! In France I got tested for everything at the start but then only toxo, while the Greek doctor's eyes popped out of his head at this suggestion, he wants full bloods done every 3 weeks. Then again I have heard of people in the UK that only get 1-2 blood tests during the whole pregnancy. The good news is I can get the Harmony test here and they even do a new one called Maternity 21 which finds more abnormalities - the bad news is that I am now 26wks gone so I am not sure I would want to do anything in case of a positive result but anyway let's wait and see.

Kali so sorry about your sister she will be strong and a fighter keep positive.
Thank you everyone it's nice to have the support off people who understand what we are all going through. I've laid in bed and told my dh that I'd rather die than go through this bit harsh I know bit that's how I felt. WOW to anyone going through this with babies or toddlers I would be at my wits end my daughters 9 and very independent the only thing she can't do is cook hot food for herself which is a struggle for me as you all will know smells are horrendous I've already said this is the last for me I can't do it again. I've booked a scan privately for tomorrow so finally get to put our mind at ease if there only one or two babies either way I'll be happy.
Medication in on is both cyclizine and ondansetron the cyclizine didn't work on it's own I just continued to be sick, but I've had two days of no sickness or nausea but I think that's the religious taking of them I'm hoping the stay doing the job they are because I'm scared of going back to carrying the sick bucket through every room in house. I would recommend this combination to you it means waking up twice in the middle if the night which we all have had to do anyway but even if I only get a few days of them working it will make me happy.
A question anyone have popped blood vessels near their eyes from being sick and if so does anyone know if they will go just I've got three round one eye two are only small but one is noticeably bigger?
Thank you again for welcoming me on here it's much appreciated xx

Kali sorry to hear about your sister. Sending her lots of vibes

SomeSunnySunday my bed is the one that's moulding to me lol annoyingly we don't have a sofa at the moment as we lent it to my BIL so we could decorate our front room while he awaits the delivery of a new sofa. Sadly this coincided with the week I got the most unwell so we are sofa-less and have done a grand total of zero hours of DIY!!!!

DEC2013 welcome but sorry you find yourself here :) I definitely wouldn't class 5 x a day as normal. That was about the amount I was vomiting before I started anti-sickness meds. Definitely get yourself to the GP esp if you're struggling with liquids. Big hugs, it really is no fun

sasseh not knowing if you've brought up meds or not is soooooo frustrating!!! Sorry to hear you've vomited already this morning - I feel your pain hugs

Sambo you're not the only one with red spots! I noticed yesterday I have a few little blood vessels too, I assumed it's from the vomiting

AFM - lasted a grand total of about 35 hours without vomiting, which came to an abrupt halt this morning when I threw up just after taking my anti sickness. Didn't throw up any pill fragments as I thick cyclizine dissolves quite quick but how much I absorbed before bringing up lots of bile I don't know. So have to wait it out for another 3hrs before I can take any more which sucks. DH's parents coming over this afternoon to help us out up a new curtain rail, hopefully will be sick free whilst they visit!! Fingers crossed anyway

Hope everyone has a restful day xx

Sambo haven't popped any blood vessels to my knowledge but I always feel like I'm going to! It's awful isn't it?
I have 3 DC's 14, 11 & 4. Having a 4 year old is bad enough with HG so feel for those with younger DC.

Living although the practice nurse told DH to make an appt for him to see the GP the next day the receptionist he spoke to wouldn't let him [anger] she told him he didn't need to see the GP, just have another blood test and then made a real song and dance about squeezing him in for it.

Anyway I have managed to threaten persuade him to phone up for an emergency appointment on Monday!!

Lucinda not being facetious here!! Haven't got the energy, maybe a bit of sarcasm occasionally (as we all know it's the lowest form of wit )

SomeSunny I'm with you on the sofa moulding, every few days I swap to our other sofa!
Poor you on your long journey, I carry (clean) doggy poo bags with me when I'm in the car just in case.

Bit of an odd question but has anyone gone off diet products i.e. diet/no added sugar drinks, low fat yoghurts etc. I guess stuff that is artificially sweetened?

Great news for me is that IL's have gone on holiday for a week (they live next door so a week of peace and quiet). MIL's parting shot was "hopefully you'll be better by the time we get back" I said "let's hope for a miracle then" to which she replied "well there's no reason why you shouldn't be better by then". SIGH.

Sambo I popped blood vessels (same place, round my eyes) last time round. I'd forgotten actually, and I haven't done it this time. They cleared up pretty quickly, within a few days IIRC.

mampam I get really irrationally annoyed by the "feeling better?" / "maybe you'll be better by next week?" type of comments too. Because I really, really doubt it, and it makes me feel as if the people saying it just think I have bog standard morning sickness. At my scan last week they couldn't do the NT measurement or get a great view in general as my bladder wasn't full enough. There is no way I can drink a litre of water: I had tried and thrown up many times before the scan. I explained this to the midwife doing the scan, whose response was "well we'll see you again next week, you'll be 12 weeks then so hopefully you'll be feeling much better". I felt too grim to even reply. She was trying to be nice, but it's frustrating that even some medical professionals just don't get it.

I'm lying here grinning at the last few posts.

The 'well I'm sure you'll be feeling better next week' brigade are also driving me crazy.

If I have a good day everyone thinks I'm magically cured and then can't understand why I a) still don't want to do anything or b) am then sick again the next day.

Family, friends, medics none of them get it!!

Hang on in there ladies...