Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Thanks all :)

You know, I was weeping earlier on WhatsApp to DH about it all and why now something else, I just want to be well, my baby to be well, my husband to be happy again and to take our child home and enjoy her. And have a blinking Corona with lime! Then I just went and fed her then we went for a nap (never thought I'd do co sleeping but there you go) and you know what, I would do it all again just to have her safe with us. I would, of course, do my best to exclude the meningitis/Strep B/any kind of illness bit!

I have antibiotics whoop, and the fact it's oral rather than intravenous means that it's a low level infection rather than something serious which the nurse said was a good sign. See, me and my baby match each other - we had matching epidural patches and now both on antibiotics Just waiting for the midwife to come and do the ultrasound. God if I don't get discharged on Saturday I'm going to go properly nuts this time. Psychiatrist should give the ok tomorrow I hope. There is a chance we could be in a room with Daisy from Saturday to Tuesday so we can be with her at night :) but otherwise we are only a 5 minute drive away and the care is just outstanding here so I feel a bit better about not being in the same building.

Can't believe it's been a week since I was in labour a lifetime has passed since then.

khali that's interesting about the after birth hg. Food all tastes normal but I have residual smell and claustrophobia issues and aversions still are quite strong. I notice the nausea in the early morning, same time as before. Smells are definitely better (DH smells lovely again so I know what you mean about the tramp smell!) but food not so good still although my need for milk has not abated. No vomiting though. I will see how it is when I get home.

DH is also coming armed with a cabbage this evening sorry for mentioning food. Midwife thinks the worst of the engorgement has passed thank goodness.

Apologies for the lack of personals but have a banging headache so will be shortly off for a nap

Had booking in appt today which was helpful. Midwife wasn't convinced by the use of cyclizine and metaclopramide, but then at the same time made no attempt to make alternative suggestions! Just that she was suprised I was 'given meds in the first trimester'. Which I thought was abit odd
We discussed how I've been feeling with the nausea and sickness and her recommendation was to stay off work until first tri was over. So looks like another 2-3 weeks at home for me

I haven't been sick for two days now but I still feel horribly nauseous all the time. The bus journey to/from the hospital made me feel really rough!

I hope everyone is having better days today

Fraggle x

Hi all.

Firstly, I said I'd link to the vomit power had last time. I don't think it was exactly this (it was a "present" from a friend who stole it from her work :-)) but very similar, and this is what I have ordered this time. It was an absolute godsend for car vomits. This time I seem to be managing to aim into a poly bag a little better!

living I hope you're fighting fit soon! your experience with Daisy is stating to sound so similar to mine with DS1. I had a c-section incision infection after that. I have always suspected that it was because we were so long in hospital (and there are more bugs about).

It is good to hear that people are considering getting tested for GBS. Be aware that even if you get an NHS test (I got one because of previous GBS, you will also get one if you have late -term bleeding, I think) it's not very reliable. With DS2 my NHS test was negative, but my private test was positive (days apart). It is mainly an issue if you have a vaginal delivery, and particularly if your waters are broken for a long time before you deliver (mine were). But because I am extra paranoid I also asked for antibiotics pre c-section with ds2, and the consultant agreed (probably just as a placebo!).

I can massively identify with the will-I-won't-I vomit dilemma. Sometimes I lie there knowing that if I even try to move I will probably be sick, but unsure about whether this wouldn't just be better for the short-term relief.

No news here. Spotting has become even more minimal (and it was always quite minimal) so hopefully it's pretty much over. Even after a good scan I can't help but worry about these things.

I am so frustrated with how HG has taken over my whole life, and everything is on hold. Tomorrow I am missing DS1's graduation from kindergarten (he's at an American International School where this is a big deal!) . I'm also getting really frustrated that of the two friends I've told about this in the UK, one texts almost daily with messages like "feeling better now?". I now she's just trying to be nice, but I've explained so many times that I'm unlikely to feel better for weeks, and I've no patience just now anyway as I feel so crap. I've taken to just ignoring her, horrible woman that I am.

fraggle you would be amazed at the lack of knowledge midwives have of hg and medication. Best to stick to your GP or consultant for that kind of thing imo. There needs to be some sort of awareness campaign about it but presumably the funds and the campaigning resources needed aren't there :(

sunny in an awful way it's good to know it's not just me if that makes sense! I had assisted delivery with the cone (can't spell the word) and yep, waters were broken for ages before I was dilated enough, around 25 hours. Then Daisy was in icu 24 hours later with the Strep B and now me with Strep A which I think has been brewing for a few days. Ten days of antibiotics for me now so my Corona is nowhere near in sight :(. Good news is they did an ultrasound (so strange to see no baby there!) and there is no placenta left and an internal showed clear too. The gynaecologist called it Midwives Fever.

Did you find your hg had gone though or did it linger?

And I know what you mean about the friends. I just stopped speaking to anyone after a while I couldn't cope.

Great news on the spotting! But sorry about the graduation. Just another sucky thing about hg and having no life.

And yes I was nearly a c section too. Very close call the gynaecologist said to me after as they thought she might get stuck!

kalidasa I got in touch with PSS and have been put in touch with someone who has had 4 hg pregnancies (yes, 4) and had a long chat with her. It was wonderful to actually speak to someone. The main lady who organises the volunteering had also had emetaphobia and it was great to speak with someone who understands the stress/panic this adds on to hg. I've been in touch with some friends by email and occasionally speak with one by phone, but she has sort of dropped off the radar over the last few weeks

lottie no worries, you weren't to know!

Oklahoma that's fantastic news about your dh working from home. It must be so nice to know he is right there whenever you need him, even if it is a quick chat or a hug. I know those are the things I really miss during the week. Even having someone to sit and cuddle up to on the sofa or bed. I look forward to Fridays so much because that's when my dh comes over to my mums for the weekend, but Sundays and weekdays are a misery :-( Can't wait until this is all over.

meerka so true... it's the only way I can even begin to cope with this. I look forward to night-time because at least I can't be lonely when I'm asleep, as pathetic as that sounds. It was nice to wake up today because there was blue sky and sunshine and it's always cheerier than the grey we've had. I hope you are doing okay? How are things?

living talk about one thing after another! I'm so, so glad you and little Daisy are doing better and also glad they've given you some antibiotics. My fingers are crossed that all goes well and smoothly and that you'll both be home and fully healthy very, very soon. xxx

somesunny THANK YOU for the link to the powder!!!! I've added it to my amazon wishlist and will be ordering some very soon!! What a godsend!

Fraggle31 It is ridiculous how ignorant some midwives are about this condition, let alone nurses. she should have kept her 'surprise' to herself.
PamMam You poor thing, I do feel for you- you will get there, time will pass. I feel guilty, too, as when you mentioned 'slapped cheek syndrome' before i honestly thought you were being facetious. I hope someone gets back to you with more informaition soon about DH's infection.
Livinzuid Oh dear, that sounds so horrible about the infection. I suppose very likely from being run down over months?
Livingzuid Kali and Meerka about the residual Hyperemesis, as you know I expect, I did have it come back. I always play it down as it's unusual , most people are free of any puking at least after delivery. I had it come back violently, to be honest, but they ignored it at Queen Charlotte's, though it makes you a bit desperate trying to breast feed and get in enough liquid. I'm glad you don't have that worry, anyway, Livngzuid You've had enough, goodness knows. It was much shorter in my case than Kali's lingering symptoms, say, only ten days or so, though I'd been rid of sickness save for severe heartburn causing occasional vomits after week fifteen. I think that was partly triggered by some unusual and nasty infection in my stitches, could be the same with Livingzuid, may be?
Kali What you say about breasfeeding interests me as the vomiting episodes were triggered by the breast feeding and the uterine contractions it set off in the beginning.
SassehMonsta Oh no, about being locked out. I do hope it worked out, that's bad enough normally.
SomeSunny Puke Powder sounds great...
I hope I haven't cross posted/rudely ovrelooked anyone.
Hope Everyone is keeping ketones low.
xx

Starry I knew it -forgot my mesasge to you. I hope feeling a bit less overwhelmed today? It is so hard on people who suffer throughout.
xx

Hi all- sorry have as usual just managed to catch up with the thread!
Huge congratulations punk and mr punk on the arrival of Luca!! So so thrilled for you

Welcome to the thread to fraggle and bellybutton so sorry you are suffering. As others have said, ondansetron has been used by many of us with no detrimental effects to baby so please don't worry. I lost 1.5 stone in both of my hg pregnancies by 20 weeks also, but then did start to regain weight. Didn't put on a huge amount in first pg tbh as hg all the way through but managed to put 2 stone back on in second pg (twins) as hg eased at around 16 weeks.

living hope that you are soon on the mend and these early set backs are soon behind you. You have been through enough!!

Sorry that so many of you are suffering badly at the moment- there is absolutely nothing I feel I can say to make you feel better on a bad day apart from I have been there and I know how you feel. Get as much rest/help as you can, forget the house- it can wait. Don't struggle into work. If not managing to keep any fluids down, sucking on ice cubes is at least a momentary distraction if nothing else.
Waves to hg sufferers past and present- you will get through this xxx

elizabeth that's really interesting that your twin pregnancy was actually better! Do you have any idea why? Was it better medicated, did you get more rest/treatment etc? Fascinating.

starry I'm really pleased you were able to talk to someone who understood. I would like to be a volunteer in the future, I think it is such an important thing.

okla my DH is also working from home when he can now, it is a huge help.

I am OK. I have thrown up already this morning, but I did feel so much better for a few minutes afterwards that it felt worth it! I was even able to get up and spend a couple of minutes with DH and DS while DS was having a post-breakfast snack (SUCH a greedy baby!). Hopefully the drugs will kick in now and it won't happen again this morning.

Just had to pretty much throw my cleaner out of the bathroom for my morning bile run. Fun times.

On the plus side it is super sunny today

hi kali glad that you have had a few minutes feeling better post morning com (sorry it has started but those few minutes without the nausea are sometimes work it ime!!)

my two hg pregnancies were quite different- with DD1 I felt horrendous and was pretty sick for the first 12 weeks but more or less struggled on so I couldn't say it was true hg to start with. It more or less went away between weeks 12-15 and then came back and was on and off from then on throughout. The worst period when i was hospitalised twice was strangely weeks 19-24. I was on cyclizine, metacholopromide and buccastem. It was pretty much on and off throughout and then (still vomming in labour). I was induced with severe pre-eclampsia at 36 weeks and DD1 was born at a very low birth weight. Not really sure if all the on-off illness was related or not but it was a pretty horrendous experience!

Didn't want to go through it all again bur changed my mind when DD was 4. Went for pre-conception counselling (on the premise of the PE and IUGR but really I was selfishly more concerned about HG). Got preg a month later and found out it was Twins early on . felt pretty bad from weeks 6-7 with i would say normal morning sickness but then at 7 weeks on the dot all hell broke loose. i was admitted 5 times between weeks 7-13. was on all the above plus ondansetron and I think something else?? Also was prescribed to take aspirin due to previous PE. In the end it was agreed that I could have injectable cyclizine prescribed at home (DH is a community nurse) and from then on I was managed at home. Also helped that I had 10 weeks off sick and did not even attempt to work between weeks 7 and 17.
I don't know if it was the time off, the injections or a combination but I started to feel much better at week 15-16 and then didn't really have any major relapses (apart from a horrific incident after a bus ride and a chocolate croissant whilst on holiday at 19 weeks- it was not pretty and DH hung his head in shame!!)
Carried on with oral cyclizine until 28 weeks to make sure though- I think it actually does work for me if it is properly in my system but obviously in the full throws of HG this is not possible, hence I think with ondansetron being stronger it must have a slightly better effect.

Am so impressed that you have been brave enough to go through this with a toddler and also the pre-emptive side of your treatment, you obviously have a good GP. xx

*vom!

okla- have visions of you flinging the cleaner out of your path! hope the rest of the day is better- enjoy the sun x

Morning ladies

I too can sympathies with the will I/won't I vomit issue. Being in limbo is horrible! It's strangely nice to have some relief once you have vomited although the vomiting itself is horrible. Very weird situation to be in.

kalidasa sorry to hear you've thrown up already! Hope the meds work and you can have a good day

elizabethsmum wow they were eventful pregnancies. I have nothing but awe for you ladies that choose to have second or more pregnancies when you have felt so poorly. I'm already thinking fat chance of that happening again lol!!

oklahoma I also have visions of your practically picking up your cleaner and flinging them out of the bathroom lol

AFM - did have have a great night last night. Made a nice tea for DHs birthday as I really really fancied it at the time - but sadly saw it all again 2 hours later - gross!!! Feeling ok so far this morning other than the background nausea I can't shift. Not sure what I'm going to do with my day today, only so much you can do when you don't really have the energy to do much! Nice and sunny ATM at might have a sit out in the garden for some vitamin d, with the cat, abit later

Hugs to anyone who needs them

Fraggle x

*didnt

Kali Okla and Fraggle31 and Everyone offers tentative cyber pats about puking episodes. I'm glad yours' made you feel temporary relief, Kali. That particularly horrible mid puke feeling is balanced by feeling a short respite afterwards. I think having dry retching and no relief is probably the worst, but it's hard to say. Bile runs are foul, Oklahoma the cleaner was NOT in the right place at he right time.
Waves to Elizabethsmum. Fraggle That is dismal, that constant reappearance of food that was (very briefly) appetising...
Hope Everyone having a better day than yesterday.
xx

Hi everyone have only just really found out I have hg after being discharged from hospital yesterday ( was admitted for dehydration) Im 12+5 and have been vomiting since week 6 I didn't think anything of it and thought I was just being a whimp and a hypercondriact if it wasn't for my partner I wouldn't have even went to hospital he took it of his own accord to ring nhs hotline and an ambulance came for me. I've been reading through all the threads and can relate to every single one even being scared that I will not bond with my baby when born. This is my second pregnancy and not only was she a dream to carry and deliver she is a little star at the moment being understanding that I can't spend time with her she tells me it's ok she will wait till I'm better. On going on here I'm a little frightened that this will last the whole pregnancy I know it will ease but to just feel normal at the moment is my only wish. I'm on two sickness meds at the moment both 3 times a day but alternated to be 6 times a day I even have my alarm set for middle of night I'm that frightened that if I miss one I'll be in the same boat as the last 6/7 weeks. I sympathise with you all and I hope everyone feels better and it's nice to find people in the same situation I haven't had a dating scan as I had been too poorly to go and get my bloods done and when admitted there was no slots for me to get a scan either just hopefully fingers crossed everything is ok.

Hi Sambo welcome to the sisterhood! Congrats on the pregnancy but it sucks that you need to be on this thread.

Sounds like DH did totally the right thing and that you are being well looked after by docs if they've given you meds.

Hang on in there, we're all here for you. We've all been there so rant/moan as you need and we'll do our best to cheer you up.

Thank you reading through everything helped loads the funniest is when people say have you tried this or that and you want to scream at them. I'm very grateful to be able to rant thank you Oklahoma :)

Hi sambo sorry you are having a bad time but feel free to rant here as we all understand what you are going through. Remember that no such thing as TMI on here

Welcome sambo sorry that you find yourself here but congratulations on your pregnancy. Sounds like your hubby did the right thing! I'm on staggered sickness tablets too. (So 6x a day in total) and have to set an alarm too ! I feel abit like my nan!

Sambo Welcome, sorry you have been so ill,and like so many women on here, thought at first it was a normal level of sickness. OH sounds great and your DD too. It is hard on them, but by all accounts, they soon forget this dismal period. What meds are you on?
Wagves to Fraggle and Everyone.
xx

Very bad news here, one of my sisters has just received a cancer diagnosis. She has had a (different) cancer before which is going to complicate treatment. So frustrating that I can't do anything to help as I am totally stuck in bed and presumably will be for weeks.