Pregnant (IVF) Worriers/ Warriors Part 5

[MrsHY1]

Hello ladies! Come and find me!

Thinking of Crisps here too.

Keep I have found that baby groups are very variable in terms of how friendly they are. I tried quite a few here (as I was new to the area) and then settled on two that felt friendly and my kind of thing. They are also ones I can keep going to when I'm back at work as they're on my non work days. I'd grit my teeth and try some more if I were you, activity based ones tend to be better as there's a focus. Also check out the mumsnet local site. I went along to a local meet up a couple of weeks ago and that was nice and friendly.

Ditto thinking of you crisps, like the others have said. I know there's not much else I can say...

Dildals and I finished our yoni auntie afternoon in the local boozer. Essentially it was chock full of office workers/Kings staff having Friday drinks and me, Dildals and the babies. We were perched on bar stools, respective babies clamped to a breast, hands clamped around wine glasses. It was most civilised, although an old woman in the corner looked very disapproving.

nice one mrsH and dildals

yes there are plenty of other baby groups around so I'll try others. I agree having an activity might be better esp when they are small and not really into playing. I felt a bit middle class too and was going to have to make things up if asked. luckily i wasn't!

shaz I think I'll have to go to the children's centre in the posher bit of town. ie where I don't live now

crisps I am not far from where you are. if it would help in even a tiny way say the word and I'll be there. love to Nancy from all of us x

I mean your hospital now.

sorry for multiple posts. baby brain.

motor I think you're next??

foodie have you had your 20 week scan?

llw are you still here? how are you doing?

Hi keep yes, I am next up I think - 33 + 5, so 6 weeks or so to go. I didn't anticipate quite how uncomfortable the latter stages could be, so I am hoping the time flies.

Love the image of disapproving the locals in the pub!

Motor wow not long to go. So exciting. I meant to say that I saw your thread the other day about dressing babies in white. I hadn't heard of that although we were leant many white babygros from SIL because we didn't know the sex and so it was neutral. I haven't bought any clothes for shazlett and am using a mixture of gifts and secondhand freebies. There is quite a bit of pink and to be honest I think I prefer white to lots of pink. My favourite things are brightly coloured stripey all-in-ones that we have been given. Have you resolved the issue with your mum now?

Thinking of Crisps. X

Hi shazza. How are you doing? I love the pic of you with nokkolita on FB. So very sad for crisps and family. Just devastating.

I think that the issue is resolved with my mum but I am now more confused. We went shopping together yesterday, and she seemed quite happy with coloured baby grows etc, so I don't understand what the agument was about in the first place. As for baby clothes with writing on them, these are "obscene", as she loudly declared in Primark! We managed to buy ex-display changing dresser and cot bed in Mothercare at half price, and all in all I have ticked off many things from my 'essentials' list. Baby is very wriggly right now, which always puts me in a good mood - not bad going for this time in the morning.

I loved it when shazlett wriggled. When you finally meet mini motor it's so strange to think that he/she was the wriggly baby.

Well done for the purchases. Mums have some funny ideas sometimes I'm sure we will too when we get there!

All good here although shazlett had her bcg jab yesterday and slept from 2pm-4am waking for feeds but was then restless from 4am til now.

Ps the little nipper Noks is so cute. As are all the yoni babies. :-)

motor white is good as it can be bleached. I have loads of white vests and sleepsuits, I put brightly coloured stuff over the top though. Sounds like great furniture bargains. I wouldn't even go in Primark with my mum, she's alarmed by polyester and animal print and I couldn't cope with the tutting. If it's not M&S then she's out of her comfort zone.

today s is dressed in trackie bums with cat faces and ears on the knees, and a 'mama ain't raisin no fool' T-shirt! classy

Keep that sounds awesome!

Keep loving the pic of S on FB, awesome outfit. My DM has knitted more tank tops in plain colours this time. I have loads of white vests and babygros too as then it doesn't matter if E or F wears them and then I put a cardi or tank top over the top. Makes it much easier for me.

Shazza how is N after the BCG yesterday? does she seem back to herself now?

I love your mum's knitting Sweets! Has she done any baby related figures yet?

Nora Noo Na (or NNN as expat calls her -love it thanks expat) is still v sleepy she has just slept for 7 hours. I appreciate that this is every mother's dream but on top of the endless sleeping since Saturday I'm abit worried. Also we ended up going to the walk in clinic yesterday because her right eye swelled up and went red , puffy and weepy whenever we led her on her back. It was weird. To me it was clearly an allergic reaction but the dr said that it was impossible and definitely not related to jab. However she couldn't say what it was after ruling out conjunctivitis. She packed us off with antibiotics though. When I questioned this she said that most parents would want to leave with something to be reassured. I am amazed that she would dish out potentially unnecessary antibiotics to a 10 week old baby. Maybe I'm too hippy dippy holistic alternative medicine but there is no way I'm going to give her antibiotics if I don't need to. Also she hasn't poo'd since Friday which is also unlike her. The dr said to take her to my GP today if nothing changed so I'll do that.

How are you feeling? How are your eyes? And are you feeling less anxious?

Hello to everyone else. Yesterday was not a good day for me. While im upset about NNN DP is still rowing with me about his bloody friends visiting.

No baby related figures yet, she is too busy knitting tank tops!!

I hope NNN is better today, when they are so young it is really hard to know what is wrong. It is bad of the GP to give out the antibiotics just for the sake of it.

I am going to the eye specialist again today, I have had a series of tests so I am hoping to get some answers. I am very anxious about the outcome. The GP keeps trying to get me taking anti depressants but I don't think that is the answer. I am getting there though.

Hope all the Yonis have a great time today, I am well jealous of the meet up especially at the champers bar. Have one for me.

how silly. of course you're anxious of the outcome!! good luck lovely

how silly. of course you're anxious of the outcome!! good luck lovely

Have one for me too!

Sweetie I'd be anxious too. Obviously. I'd hold off on the antidepressants because once you have the eye problem explained do you think you'll still be as anxious? I'd wait and see. You've always said you're reluctant to take them. I hope you get sone answers today.

shazza I think she had something in her eye. I don't think it's connected to the vaccine but of course I am not a doctor. I agree about not giving antibiotics, I think your have been as well using salt water and waiting for her eye to sort itself out. For all eye complaints my first response is cooled boiled water with a half teaspoon of salt to the pint. Soak cotton wool and bathe two hourly or thereabouts. That works for most things in my experience. Or breast milk if you can be faffed expressing, it's not proven to be any better but it's sterile and certainly doesn't do any harm.

Me and my homespun remedies.... ^^

I spent yesterday at a kids party for three whole hours. It was awful, I swear hell is a northern social club full of giddy five year olds high on Haribo. Ringlet loved it though and kept making for the dance floor so I had to keep taking her up to dance. She was also dressed as a penguin.

Sweets how did you get on? It is natural to be anxious anyone would be. I really hope that you got some answers that were both reassuring and with a positive outcome. It must be truly awful. Compounded by having 2 tiny babies to think of.

Onion I laughed outloud! Sweet, sweet ringlet. Thanks for the eye tips. I'm going to make a note of that for another time. It was better yesterday so you may have been right. For some reason fluid was collecting when she was led flat. Anyway it's not happening now so I'll just have to keep an eye on it. Now that it's stopped I think you are right and it's not connected to the jab but it was so surprising yesterday morning it was a natural reaction to associated the 2 things.

We had such a lovely day yesterday. I even had a glass of champers. My first drink in over 2 years. Cheers! Last night DP and I had a long chat about instadiffers. He doesn't feel as I do but I think he has more of an understanding now. He also realises why I find it hard to have a stream of guests every weekend. And I appreciate that he wants to mark the occasion of nnn's birth by showing her off to his friends while she is still little. Anyway we are friends again which is good cause 2 days of proper shouting is very unusual for us and very upsetting.

Dildals it is 3am and I'm holding NNN while she snuggles her milky chops into the crook of my neck. I can hear her snuffly breaths slow down as she slips into sleep again. And I'm thinking of you and all the other mums out there doing the same.

Yes shazza Bella is dozing cheek to boob at the minute, with a little hand on top. She has started to grab my boob with 2 hands and pull it towards her when she's hungry! She went from 9 till 5 this morning, which is pretty amazing, but i missed our middle of the night snuggles. She was staring at me wide eyed after her 5 am feed and i had to tell her it wasnt play time yet.

Shazza I have been quite upset as my vision appointment wasn't very good unfortunately. The specialist didn't know what is causing my issues. He seems to think it is genetic and the trauma of birth has made existing deterioration in my retina actually effect my sight. He wants me to go for genetic screenings but doesn't think it will be reversible. I am not sure how he can reach this conclusion if he doesn't really know what it is. He couldn't tell me how to prevent the same happening in the other eye but didn't think I will go blind!!!

Dildals I loved your words about the middle of the night snuggles with our babies. I really enjoy that time too, when they cling to you and are all warm and snuggly.

Oh sweetie that's awful. Im so sorry. No wonder you are upset. Do you know if there is a history in your family? Did he think there was a way to at least slow down the deterioration?

Dildals it is 5am and NNN has gone from 10pm til now. But I still feel like this is the middle of the night!

I know I've been v emotional over the weekend but I'm having a emotion regression i think. I'm feeling the intense feelings towards shazlett that I felt after the birth. Extreme feelings of wanting to do my best for her and wondering if I'm doing enough. Worrying that I'm missing some important element of her development because I don't play with toys with her all the time or do exercises. I get so wrapped up with the practicalities of it all that the day passes and I realise that I haven't done tummy time for example. I do think that she will learn a lot by watching and joining me as i go about my day so I try to include her in activities. The other thing that is pressing for me is coming up with a return to work alternative. I'm not sure I've mentioned it here but I'm exploring doing the lazy daisy training for antenatal teaching. I think I'd really enjoy it and that I would be good at it. I definitely don't want to go back to 9-5 in an office after my mat leave so I have to find an alternative.

I hope you are all ok.

Crisps thinking of you.

sweetie how strange but yes, very distressing. Is there any benefit in getting a second opinion? I think you also need advice on how to manage this condition and what the implications are for driving and reading and other daily activities.

shazza I like the term emotional regression. Could you earn enough cash as an antenatal person? And could you do it when you move out of London?

Stop worrying about Shazzlet. Just being awake is stimulating for her, think how much growing and development is going on in the background. I'm sure that most babies mainly watch their mothers going about all the dull tasks of the day and suffer no ill effects. One thing I do is do chores for say 20 mins and then do ten minutes dedicated play. I've actually managed to do some tiling over the past couple of days by employing this tactic!

She's also still very little and harder to play with. When she's sitting independently and better coordinated she'll be easier to play with. But don't worry! You don't spend all day yacking on the phone with her strapped in a buggy in front of the TV, lots of people do!