Pregnant (IVF) Worriers/ Warriors Part 5

[MrsHY1]

Hello ladies! Come and find me!

Oh Sweetie sorry to hear about the food probs. Stress will definitely do it, as will sleep deprivation (I find that some days I eat like a horse, others I can barely face the prospect). Is there anything at all you can face? Do try as you will feel better (I know easier said than done).
Yay for Shazlett's measurements! Shazz miniHY has a 91st centile head! She has to keep that coked up brain somewhere. She's still in size 1 nappies too! They are looking on the snug side though...
Totally forgotten what else I was going to post...

Dildals sorry there are no Irish twins on the cards, well not yet anyway. I can't imagine having another baby to be honest. I love mini HY dearly and absolutely but the last few weeks have quite frankly brought me to my knees! Going through IVF, the pregnancy and the birth itself all pale into insignificance against it. Honestly! I'm sure I'll forget how painful it was but DH and I had a heart to heart about it and agreed that there are lots of advantages to having the one nipper...
Talking of said nipper, she has been napping for THREE HOURS and still going strong. If this affects her night I'll spit feathers. Poor thing. I spend half my life trying to get her to nap and when she does I complain about it! She probably doesn't know if she's coming or going

Just back from emergency out of hours as I couldn't get her temperature down. Of course it had dropped to below 38 by the time I'd got there. I am so weary of this now.

Medicines list is easy:
Essential: Calpol, ibuprofen, piriton and a range of spoons and syringes to get it into them. Chuck out all of these after they've been open three months as they become far less effective by then. Snuffle babe, olbas oil or Vicks for noses. Sudocreme for red bums and Vaseline or equivalent for chapped skin. Braun thermometer or other reliable one. That's about it I think.

Sorry for lack of personals, will be back later no doubt.

onion that sounds scary. I hope ringlett is a bit better now. Poor little girl. Were the drs helpful?

shazz can't believe they cancelled shazzlets jabs! Hope the talk to the class went ok. We're in size 2 nappies too. It's looking like size 0-3 babygros won't contain the ginster legs much longer though... We may have to cut the feet off them, as it seems so wasteful (plus expensive) to move up to the next size. Plus they'd be stupidly baggy on her.

mrshy my thoughts are the same as yours on having another baby, plus we can't afford any more ivf, particularly as it'd clash with childcare costs. I just want to get this nipper right (and fat !) Did mini hy sleep ok over night? I find length of day time naps don't affect night sleeps, although last night, ginster kept her daddy up until 2.30, mostly cos she was cluster pooing!

sweetie I lost my appetite at first, cos I was a bit traumatised by the birth I think, but am now generally starving all the time due to the feeding I guess. I can imagine how with 2 babies to look after it must be hard to find time to think about food for yourself, but you must take care of yourself.

Actually my diet is crap if there is no one about to make me food, due to the Velcro baby. How do people find time to make lunch/dinner?! I need to start eating less grabbed biscuits and get rid of the extra 2 stone I am carrying! Not a fan of the fat and nothing fits me...

Irish twins eh? That's a new phrase for me. I can't imagine poas again dildals, but that's prob cos I can't imagine sechsing again!

ceara must have her baby now - how exciting! We need to get her on the FB group, so we can see pics.

We have our nct reunion today. I'm sure ginster will scream the place down, whilst everyone else's babies, including the lovely Nora, are well behaved. I'll just have to try to boob ginster into submission. We tried a dummy yesterday - she chewed it in the side of her mouth, like it was a cigar, and then spat it out!

Hope ringlet has maintained a normal temp and you got some sleep onion

Great news about 3 hour nap mrshy - hope you got some sleep too!

sweetie try not to worry about your appetite - it will come back. Try to eat small amounts of nutritious and filling foods that you can tolerate to keep your energy levels up. Can you eat porridge?

Eagerly awaiting news from ceara and buzzy.

As for me, all is as well as can be expected I think, with fluctuating aches, and insomnia. Midwife appt on Weds and I am hoping that my bump is measuring as it should for dates as people keep commenting on how "discrete" it is and are surprised when they learn how far along I am. Haircut today, and it is last chance for my hairdressers - I operate a two strikes and you're out policy with my hair, which seems to result in regular changes of salon! I find that when I join a new salon they do a couple of great cuts, and then something goes awry. When feeling cumbersome and with a very limited wardrobe, you at least need a reasonable barnet! Fingers crossed.

poor ringlet. and you onion

gin, dh often makes me a sarnie for lunch before he goes. helps a lot. we are in size 2 nappies though I have bought a box of size 3. 0-3 are rather short, some of them, but I put her in a 3-6 the other day and was ridiculous. h&m do a 2-4 which is perfect.

I agree naps don't affect the night. last night she went 9-2, then 5. but 2-5 v noisy though I think she was asleep. it's v weird. I think it's wind but am now worrying she's not getting enough sleep. naps are crap, but if we don't do enough she's not Ber lovely smiley self.

hope ceara pops in soon. motor ceara had a small bump too. good for you getting a haircut. I can't imagine ever having the time again... kip gets her bath, massage, creams, oils every day. I just bung on sick stained clothes and forget to brush my hair

I hope ceara calls in soon and we must bully her onto fb.

Keep yesterday I had hair that needed a wash and I had only brushed the front. I HATE being like that. Today I am going nowhere until I have had a leisurely shower.

After a scary start Ringlet went until 5am before the next big temperature spike so I have to view that as an small improvement. The trouble is she absolutely hates taking medicine so we had to hold her down to get Calpol into her and she screamed blue murder. She slept until 8.30 though, as did I.

Get this - the out of hours texted me to ask if ringlet had dropped a toy rabbit and if so they had it at reception. It wasn't us but I think that is so kind of them.

motor ah the endless (and needless) comments about bump size. I think sometimes people just need to say something. Insomnia is normal for now, no fun though. I hope your haircut goes ok, I had the same issue until I found a great one who comes to my house and does a wet cut for £15 and it's great. I have a straightforward long bob anyway but the way she cuts it means it grows down nicely. It good having a home visit with a baby actually, although she did tell me nearly all her other customers are housebound pensioners!

sweetie crackers and cheese? (my answer to all appetite loss). I lose my appetite when I'm anxious too, it's miserable.

gin I never used to eat much with dd1 at lunch as she'd scream the place down if I wasn't attending to her. With ringlet I was more confident to let her cry for five mins while I made a sandwich. Things like peanut butter or Philadelphia cheese were quick and easy. I hope ginster behaves herself and you have a nice outing. (Love the cigar image, know exactly what you mean. Ringlet does that with her bottle when she's distracted.)

DH has just told me he can't really do any childcare this weekend as he's behind with work. MIL comes tomorrow so I'll get her to help but I'm in for a long day today. I have promised dd1 she can have some party shoes so I think I'll have to take them both out into town this afternoon and make it into an extended visit involving cafés and whatnot. i.e. £££

Hope everyone else is ok.

sweetie I lost my appetite w DS because I was v stressed and sleep deprived with looking after him. I had a lot of other pressures in my life then too. I felt there were so many demands on me, physically as well as mentally, I couldn't find enough personal space to enjoy eating. It just seemed like another burden. I also find bfing kills my appetite, which is unusual i know. It was only temporary though. Having your DH make you food you can eat one ( or no!) handed is a good idea. I think you said you had already lost so much weight you were thinner than pre-preg so I can understand why your loss of appetite is a bit alarming.

onion so sorry about ringlets tonsillitis, poor little mite! Hope she recovers quickly.

Has anyone tried the nappies Kiddiecare sells online? I bought a box and they're as good as Pampers but almost half the price (11 p per nappie vs 18 p), £20 per box of 192 size 2. This has lasted us 5 wks so far and will probably go 6 wks. They do next day delivery and will refund any unopened packs if your baby moves up a size. They are also selling them at tesco under the name "cheekybots", even cheaper £15 per 180 size 3.

Oh onion that sounds very scary. Lovely of the doc to text you though. Good luck with epic childcare today! I sent DH out with minihy an hour and a half ago. Tried every trick in the book to get MYSELF to nap this time but sleep has eluded me. Oh the irony!!
Motor bump size comments infuriate me. I had to laugh at a 'discrete' bump though. Does it shag around but never get caught? Negotiate UN peace treaties?
Gin and Keep hello. My addled brain has already forgotten your posts. Ditto Fairy. More in a minute.
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE NIGHT GAH. But don't think it was the nap that did it- think like you Keep it was this one's bottom end. The wind seemed to come on about midnight and last the whole night- she had an hour of quiet here and there but otherwise was grunting and rooting on her little hand (although eyes shut) so I kept feeding her. Don't know if this made things worse. I think maybe the only role the nap played in the proceedings is that she was still for nearly 4 hours in the end so didn't work the gas out by being awake and moving like she normally does. Tonight I might let her grunt and wriggle just to see if she ends up crying but I'm worried about that. Gah. I hope things will improve as her little digestive system develops but there are plenty of threads on t'internet by mums who's 5/6/7/8 month old still does this and needs hourly feeding to comfort them. Triple gah with a gah sized cherry on top.

Fairy have heard kiddicare nappies are very good...

There's a gaga joke in there somewhere.

If I lived in London I'd do a night stint for you MrsH. I did one for my friend's ds who had horrific colic. I suppose all that has been ruled out? Silent reflux?
My b was intolerant to bm and formula - anything milky and until it was discovered never slept.
In the meantime I am sending you completely useless sympathy.

mrs god how awful for both of you. DS used to get terrible wind and when it was past the burp stage I used to bicycle his legs and push them up against his tummy to make him fart. It worked occasionally.

Thanks expat. I will take her to the doctors I think but I'd sort of ruled out silent reflux/ colic as I don't see any of the signs and symptoms during the day - I know I joke about her jacked up on coke nap refusal but she doesn't really cry if I comfort her - she never looks in pain and feeds well during the day - I've never experienced her crying and not being able to stop it by soothing her/ talking to her/ simply picking her up. And for the past week she has napped really well. Wouldn't I see a pattern in the day time too? PS don't offer your services again as I'll bite your hand off - even your train fare would be cheaper than the night nanny :)
Thanks Fairy - I tried that in the wee hours this morning but couldn't seem to elicit the required response :).
Lord knows why I didn't mention any of this to the GP we saw for her (late) 6 week check on Tuesday. I think because we'd had a decent-ish night so I just convinced myself it was OK. That and because I've mastered co-sleeping/ feeding and falling asleep I sometimes wake in the morning having no recollection of the details of the night we had, only that it was fairly crap.
I'm sorry that all I ever seem to do on here is moan! I'm sure one day when miniHY is running for prime minister/ curing cancer/ solving third world debt I'll be much more chipper.

We've had COPIOUS amounts of thickish poo this afternoon (thicker than is normal for her) followed by very runny, watery poo. Sorry for the tmi! Wonder if this caused the discomfort all through last night though.

Onions so sorry to hear about the dash to out of hours last night, I hope Ringlett is on the mend and you have a better time of things tonight. Very nice of the out of hours to text about the lost rabbit. Thanks for the list of meds too, I shall be stocking up.

Shazza I have a Drs appointment on Tuesday so I will ask about talking therapy then. I haven't been taking anything for the anxiety as I really don't want to go down that route and I am concerned about side effects going on and coming off longer term meds.

MrsH so sorry you both had a terrible time of things last night. I do hope you manage some rest and get a better night tonight. It must be so difficult to watch such distress. The poo situation may have eased things for MiniHY. BTW I get up most mornings not knowing who has had what or filled nappies etc, I think it is the norm for new Mums.

fairy thanks for the kiddicare nappy tip. We have been using Pamper on repeat purchase from Amazon where they work out at 12p each. I am always on the look out for a nappy bargain as we get through so many.

Motor hope you are looking splendid with your new do!!! I loved my pregnancy hair but have my pre-pregnancy hair back. It is all lank and greasy now although still very thick. Anyone know when hair starts to shed post delivery? as I am expecting that to start anytime soon.

Thanks for the appetite tips, I will mention this to Dr too. I can imagine BF makes you feel very hungry. I have been eating cereal, biscuits and sandwiches plus DH makes us a proper evening meal so I think I will survive but I just don't fancy it. Funnily I can still manage sweets, haribos and starbursts are hitting the spot.

Wishing everyone a good night of things tonight.

I'm tucked up with ringlet already. Some life I have. She's had no (noticable) fever spikes since 5am touch wood so today has been an improvement at last. I'm still apprehensive about tonight though.

mrshy don't worry, it sounds like she had a lot to get out of her system. One thing that worked for mine when they were less than 12 weeks and digestively tortured was sporadically dangling them by holding them under their arms. It seemed to stretch out their tummies a bit and often a big fart would follow and then all would be well. They do dramatically improve at digesting things by 12 weeks and it's better again once they're weaned.

sweetie my hair was thicker and darker in pregnancy and then went gradually lighter and thinner (although ringlet has pulled out loads - I can see them growing back as they stick straight up) but now is darker again. I didn't have plugholes full of hair though so the process of change wasn't noticable.

Thanks for the nappy info. I use Boots own during the day - they're always on offer so my last lot were £10 for 120 - is that 8p each? I only use Pampers at night but usually manage to get them on offer somewhere. It gives me a reason to go out so I wouldn't get them delivered! (I also save the Boots points and spend them on guilt free make up for me.)

Hope everyone has a peaceful night.

onion I read this last not ght and did the dangling... no farts though!

I was so mad at dh who came home from work to bed at 11.15 and woke s.

good idea to use cheapo nappies in the day. will try some other brands.

mrsH you poor thing. are you on countdown to supernanny night? could dh do the same thing for you one night a week? I think sometimes it's harder for us to settle them as they smell milk and get confused

expat what did he eat if not bm or formula??

Mrs I reckon the hourly feeding could make things worse. do you burp properly at night? s is windier by morningvi think cos I'm not as good in the night as it's hard to wind her asleep. what happens if you don't feed, mad crying? poor you, hopefully she'll just get better with time

sorry for all the posts I can't remember things...

Cheers Keep- I'm crap at night winding because I worry I'll wake her after she's nodded off on the boob/ hasn't really woken properly but has taken a feed. I need to man up and get better at it. A friend of mine told me she simply sits her dd up and holds her in place and the burps come out on their own. We shall see! Annoying DH woke S- I'd be livid

Better night last night!!! Mini fell asleep in her basket after a feed and cuddle around our dark kitchen at 9, I came to bed. She then woke at 1.15, I fed and re-basketed her. After a bit of shuffling she resettled. I started to hear her chunter about an hour later so reached my hand in, gave her a pat, slipped her the dummy and she went through til 4.15. Fed again (feeds only take 15-20 mins), took her in with me this time as I was waiting for the trump attack, but she didn't seem too bothered. Fed again at 6.30 (dummy wouldn't cut it this time) and she woke naturally at 8.15. I'll take that- it's a good start! X

that sounds pretty good to me!

Sounding good MrsH! Have you stopped co sleeping? I'm not sure I'd ever have slept doing that.
I did the same - just picking m up and moving her position would get a burp.
Dh flew to Dubai this morning. M is doing okay but the dog is acting pitiful and I am battling a super rare strain of flu.

God al that sound grim. Have you no local support you can call on? (where's that nanny?!)

mrshy ringlet was colicky and had dreadful wind during the day but rarely needed winding at night. I think it was as she was less distracted then, more relaxed and fed better. I found that holding her upright on my shoulder (asleep) after a feed would be enough and she often didn't need that.

Here we celebrate a fever less night but she still couldn't sleep and is covered in a rash this morning. Back to the out of hours we go...

poor al and ringlet

crisps any update? xxx

Poor Ringlet and poor you Onion. You must be knackered!
I am battling on and being brave, albeit loudly with lots of whinging.
Hi Keep, I think that he was put straight on to purées but not sure. They were living in Africa at the time so not a huge amount of options.