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Pregnant (IVF) Worriers Part 3

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Buzzybee123 · 13/08/2013 19:25

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

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Buzzybee123 · 19/10/2013 21:37

oh and the walrus could do it for 5 minutes, so longer than some of my old boyfriends then Hmm

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Nokkie73 · 19/10/2013 21:55

Kitty porn ? Walrus porn ? Good grief woman, what sort of a sicko are you Grin

I bet the walruses make strange noises. I had a man friend who made similarly odd noises whilst in flagrante delicto. It was very off-putting. The first time we played hunt the sausage I thought he was gong to have a heart attack. He soon got binned.

It starts at ten thirty. How fucking anti-social.

Shazzamattazzerly · 19/10/2013 22:17

Hello ladies

Just a quick One, I'm posting from the bathroom in my own house! I've got my parents here and they are always asking what am I doing!

Good luck with the christening Noks. 10.30 on a Sunday morning is ridiculous. I hope you have a nice frock and will waltz in there and wow them in all your pregnant fabulous glory.

Glad you are feeling better buzzy. Am Laughing about the walruses. I've got a mountain buggy cosmopolitan. And good news motor re the cmv.

It will probably take a couple of treatments dildals but I reckon it will help.

Fair doos onion for getting lashed at home. Smile

Hello to everyone else. Hope you all had a good day.

We graduated from Nct today. Shit, I'm supposed to be qualified as a parent now. We then had a lovely lunch with everyone. Funny to think that we will all start dropping babies soon.

We've been to ikea. It was arduous. Especially as I had a bout of Braxton hicks in the sofa bed department followed by a sense if humour loss in kitchens as the twinges continued and DP was behaving like a bored teenager. But you would all be proud of me because we had our dinner there! Rock n roll Saturday night out!

We got the cot onion and are going to do the conversion tomorrow hopefully. We also bought a few other bits n bobs.

Night all. Am vv tired after all that shopping. Xx

Dildals · 20/10/2013 04:23

I have a christening too at stupid o'clock, and I am godparent, and the service will be largely in Norwegian, a language which of course is still on my list of 'languages to learn' but haven't gotten round to yet.
I haven't looked semi representable since May, have no clue where I left my make up, have forgotten how to wear heels ,and turns out to be difficult to wear a dress and be able to whip your tit out. I guess this means I may have to shave my legs and that I will have to clear the milk residu out of Bella's ears, who, incidentally, just managed to suck my nipple into a different shape.

buzzy I see a lot of strange things in south London but walruses mating ... No

Dildals · 20/10/2013 04:26

shaz don't worry, famous last words, but it's not that hard. Provide food, a clean bum and lots of hugs and shazlett will be happy as a clam.

OnionRing · 20/10/2013 11:26

Ah the good old sucking nipple into a different shape. Ringlet excels at that. It's impossible to bf in a dress dildals, can you do skirt and top? Hope you find your make up. That's one thing I have to insist on daily as I look so sallow and tired.

motor whoops! But thank the lord you needn't worry about it anymore.

buzzy sounds erm highly erotic but a bit niche. They must do it in water surely? Glad you're feeling better, hope it lasts. Don't fret about the pram, seems to me that they're all pretty good these days so go and try a few, try collapsing them and detaching carseats etc and see what feels best. Like someone said upthread, the option for forward and rear facing is good. Little babies like to see your face but older toddlers like to watch the world going by.

noks hope you stun them at the christening, are these the ones with the god parent issue? I had no maize based snacks due to pretending to be on a diet. I had two cans of lager last night though which took the edge off my hangover. The shame. I'll stop taunting you all with my drinking now. Your DH would be getting a hard time from me too, I'm sure he'll be a changed man and model of virtue once the baby arrives. Mine certainly wasn't.

shazz hope you're feeling calmer today, ikea is awful anyway, heavily pregnant it's hell.dildals is right, fed, clean and warm isn't that tricky. Try and enjoy your last week or so, it's a special time as you won't have time to yourself in the same way for many, many years which you won't mind of course, but do some self indulging now.

Today I have a million things to do yet ringlet is fast asleep on me having just had an enormous feed. Everything else can wait, there is no nicer feeling than your warm, happy baby snoozing on you. (DH ruined this reverie by commenting that at 6 months of age her head was finally bigger than my tit. He has clearly been studying this ratio.)

Have a good day everyone.

Shazzamattazzerly · 20/10/2013 15:12

What shapes can your nipples possibly get into?

I hope that the various christenings went well in whatever language and whatever clothes made it out of the wardrobe. I'm sure you both looked great. As I said dildals you looked lovely last Sunday Smile

Onion sounds blissful with ringlet asleep on you.

Things are motoring along at home with the list of things to do. I'm really pleased. I feel better after the ikea trip thanks. Good news re the cot it looks like the height of the cot is the same as our bed so no adjustment needed. Result!

I hope if you aren't at a christening you are cosy at home on this rainy afternoon. Especially fairy and minipang. How are you getting?

Buzzybee123 · 20/10/2013 15:46

just to clarify kitty porn is anything kitty wise, I can watch videos of kitties for ages, they are so cute, they even have cats and babies, although I suspect mine will just try and suffocate the baby Hmm

onion two cans of lager, you classy girl Wink yes in water usually in the dark but for us in daylight Shock I have to admit looking at the whiskers on them made me think I should tidy up my moustache

shazza men seem to go into child role when they get to Ikea Hmm hope you got what you needed

noks and dildals Hope your christenings went well despite the funny weather

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Buzzybee123 · 20/10/2013 15:52

x posts shazza forgot you got the cot Hmm to my memory, it feels good to get things done

I have some more questions

baby bath or sink ??

cot bumpers ????

I am just going through my list

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Buzzybee123 · 20/10/2013 19:07

ok one more question, nappies I am in two minds about them, those of you going for reuseable, which oners are you looking at ??

I shall be quiet now Blush

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OnionRing · 20/10/2013 19:32

Baby bath definitely, so much easier. In our old house the bathroom was tiny and freezing so we'd fill the baby bath and bath her in the bedroom. When you get to weaning you'll need to bath them every night as they'll be covered in food and it's much cheaper and quicker to run a baby bath than to try and wash them all over, or fill a normal bath.

Cot bumpers aren't generally recommended due to restricting air flow and possible suffocation risk. But babies do get limbs stuck between bars when they get older. I wrapped the cot in a net curtain instead but I know lots of people use bumpers. See here for info. It's annoying as it says remove them when the baby can move around - but that's exactly when you need them.

shazz hopefully you'll never find out, but if a baby has a poor latch they squash your nipple against their hard palate at the front of their mouth, rather than against their soft palate in the middle of their mouth. This squashing results in your nipple looking a bit flattened after a feed, sometimes described as looking like a lipstick. It's agonising for the first few weeks but you actually get used to it or use a nipple shield if that works for you. I couldn't get on with them. A good latch avoids it completely though and most babies have a good latch, or can at least be taught one.

Dildals · 20/10/2013 19:37

onion it can be done, breastfeeding in a dress. I've just done it twice. It's a dress with a generous cleavage and I can pop a tit over the top.

Oh shazz you're nipple can take on quite a few shapes. The most painful one is the pyramid one. You have to take her off and start over if you get a triangular shape.

Baby won't need cot bumpers if any until she goes in to her own cot, so you have a bit of time to decide. I don't think they're essential.

Baby will grow out of sink so I would say bath.

The christening went OK but I didn't expect to get emotional over it. It made me think of christening Bella and how that would be upsetting for me, because it would automatically remind us of Georgia. I find church services emotional anyway, they're designed for max emo impact. So I am glad it's over.

keepitgoing · 20/10/2013 19:39

Buzz I think we are going to use disposables for first month, then after Xmas get one of the trials that let's you test a few different types of reusables while we decide if and what to purchase. In the meantime I have bought eco nappies to somewhat ease my conscience.

Loads of v cheap baby baths at nct sale btw.

MotorcycleMama · 20/10/2013 20:17

buzz I am intending to use disposable when necessary for convenience, but re-usable otherwise. I have looked at the reviews on MN but think it is probably difficult to know which one would suit your particular baby. They're not cheap though, so recommendations would be helpful.

That sounds tough dildals - well done for getting though it. I hope you get to have/ have had a good cuddle with DH and Bella.

Buzzybee123 · 20/10/2013 20:55

onion yes I had heard that about cot bumpers, good idea about the netting :)

keep where is this place you can trial the nappies?? I like to plan ahead :)

motor I had a look at the MN reviews, the one I have seen on Amazon isn't reviewed on MN but they got goodish reviews, I too plan to use disposables at the beginning

dildals it sounded like a tough and emotional day for you, big hugs

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keepitgoing · 20/10/2013 22:58

For example thenappylady buzzy but lots of places do, just Google nappy hire kits. I've not thought about which one yet, that's one for mat leave.

Oh dildals. X. Are you planning a christening? We arent religious so won't, but they are lovely occasions.

OnionRing · 21/10/2013 05:21

Dildals, sorry it was difficult.

I use disposables but feel bad about it.

So ringlet woke at 3am. I finally got her back off at 5am and she's now precariously asleep on me but after all the pacing about I need a wee! This is going to have to be mind over matter. I hope I don't wet the bed...

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keepitgoing · 21/10/2013 08:53

Hi beetle welcome! Lots of us were from the original egg buddies thread - in fact fairy just had her baby at the weekend :) How far along are you? Is there any reason in particular that this is a worrying pregnancy, or is it just the usual mentalling? We are all at different stages, and so let the mentalling out, much better than keeping it in.

On that note, I am 34+3, and have been having loads of BH (even more than usual) since last night. Usually they stop when I rest but not last night, so i was getting worried. They are still going on this morning, so I am going to keep an eye on them and maybe call the ward at lunchtime to see if they suggest I go in for monitoring. I am pretty sure they are nothing, and baby is still moving fine.

OnionRing · 21/10/2013 09:18

Hi beetle, yes come in and fret!

keep do you have any pa

OnionRing · 21/10/2013 09:18

...pain? Might be worth getting checked though.

Ginestas · 21/10/2013 09:44

Welcome beetle! How many weeks are you? I think excessive mentalling is all part of an ivf pregnancy, even though it's not any more likely to go wrong than a normal one. Good luck for your scan.

keep I found getting checked out hugely reassuring, so would recommend it if you are worried. Mine have eased off a bit now and I wonder if they were partly to do with my digestive system cramping.

onion hope you made it to morning without peeing the bed! Btw I am loving the body silk bra. Amazing! A great tip from you again. Am going to buy some more next month.

dildals pleased to hear the christening was ok, but sorry it was hard. I find churches super emotional - guess it's all to do with birth/death/weddings, big emo events. I remember going to a carol service one year whilst ttc and welling up every time we sang about baby Jesus!

shazz hope you are enjoying your first day of mat leave! The post nct lunch was lovely, although I found the class bloody useless! I didn't enjoy the chat about baby no 2, particularly as several of us made it v clear that it wasn't an option and we didn't want to discuss. Looking forward to meeting up in the tearooms soon :)

nokster hope you got mr n under control! Mr G still hasn't finished the fecking ensuite. My mum is coming down to help me and I will laud it over him FOREVER how his heavily pregnant wife and 60+ MIL finished his DIY. Ha ha at walrus like man friend.

crisps how's the valleys going?! I've only ever seen a clip, in which some girls were trying to shove ice cubes up each others foofs in a night club! Can't wait to start mat leave and indulge (without Mr G's knowledge...) Do you watch the Chelsea programme too?

buzz kitty porn is the best! Walrus sounds a little more niche...My sister has been supplying me with some of the cat variety, courtesy of her 2 kitties. DH despairs. I think he'd rather I was watching real porn :) Pleased you are feeling a bit better. Rest, rest and rest!

motor am really pleased that the CMV scare turned out to be nothing. There is so much to worry about though isn't there?

I now demand seats on trains (probably pissing off all those long term ttc). It really is uncomfortable to stand for long periods of time now and I'm scared of falling over and hurting the baby. No one has refused yet...

mrshy your pool looks ace! Am well jell!

fairy hope you and your family had a lovely weekend.

Waves to everyone I've missed in my ramble.

Is anyone going to the baby show next weekend? I 'm going with my mum. I 'm expecting it to be hellish, but really wanted to go now I'm allowed and to erase those memories of being massive envious of ladies on the train with their baby show bags.

Dildals · 21/10/2013 11:29

onion I hear you on the needing a wee thing while they're feeding/asleep on top of you. If Bella is really asleep I can usually transfer her to her cot, but if she's still sort of aware she will protest. Shall I share the awful truth with those still waiting to pop?

I had 2 occasions where I needed to go to the loo so badly I took Bella along, in rugby ball feeding position, so I had my right hand free and Just Did It. Don't judge me people, it was that, or shitting myself...

Bella went for a whole FIVE hours between feeds this morning, we had a blissful lie in. Now I am worried she won't get enough calories in to grow to the heights of her mum and dad... I did try and feed her at 7 but she wouldn't take the boob and we both fell asleep TBH. I left the boob in her face (we were both lying down) and told her to sort herself out if she wanted it. If she's hungry she normally cries for it, so assume it's OK? (Just say: Yes it will.)

Welcome beetle you have come to the right place!

keep Do you know what, I don't consider myself religious, but we did get married in the church and although initially we did that because the church was really cute blabla, I find church services enormously powerful. These things are about all coming together, all your friends and family, and, in the case of marriage, making a vow to eachother in front of all those people. A christening service has that same purpose in a way, and the church provides the framework in Western society for that ritual. I also find it comforting for example that our Rev is praying for Georgia, somehow that makes me feel she is less alone. I know our Rev hasn't got the inside knowledge on what happens after we die, but I still find it comforting. I guess it is at times like this you either turn to faith or turn away from it, but as I said I think it is more the rituals that give support and comfort than the out and out knowledge that God is taking care of her.

My god, from the straining noises that are going on you'd think a poo the size of a small country is going to come out soon. (This is my baby I am talking about beetle not me, just in case you were wondering)

MrsHY that pool is hilarious. It almost looks like something out of MTV Cribs!

OnionRing · 21/10/2013 14:36

gin glad you like the body silk. That is very insensitive about ttc baby number 2. I was at a baby group the other day and a woman said she got pregnant through IVF, nobody said anything (as they are all instadiffers) but I said to her 'was it a long slog to get to this point?' and she nodded. Two minutes later they all start about how their second labour will be so much easier etc so I had to jump in and change the conversation. People are such unimaginative, insensitive idiots.

I'm afraid I read your comments about ice cubes as that was what you wanted to indulge in. Maybe it would be like a local anaesthetic?

dildals ah ha ha. That's ace. I've tottered off for a wee with the baby latched on but never attempted a poo. You get a special prize for managing that. Perhaps the Extreme Breast Feeding Award. Oh and she'll make up the calories later on.

I'm glad you can take some comfort from the church. I was brought up religious but as a result am now a committed atheist, I can still be moved by religious ceremony and especially music. I don't have much respect for the clergy though and hate the church's treatment of women. DD1 is at a church school though as there was no other local option so we have to go once a term now. It's extremely religious where I live, it's the only place in England I've seen roadside shrines.

fairypangolin · 21/10/2013 14:40

Hi all - I've finally found a moment when mini-pang is asleep, DS is at school and neither DH or my mum are around (they assume if I am looking at my laptop I am working, which is verboten) to do an update. Thank you all for your very kind words, so nice to read (and noks I used to live in Brixton so I know how much it takes to make a South Londoner cry. Tube shut at London Bridge for example).

Everything is great really, the birth was wonderful! Probably sounds a bit mental to say that but now the rosy post-natal glow is painting everything for me. I would definitely go for short but intense over long and slow in terms of labour. That said, the contractions from 7:30, when I got in the pool, to when she was born at 9:43 were really something. I could not have managed if the labour had been a lot longer. As it was, I went from 3 cm dilated at 7:30 to fully dilated in about an hour and 15 min so I guess my cervix finally got the message.

I had ideally wanted to give birth in the pool if poss but the MW wanted me to get out around 9:15 because I had been feeling the urge to push (which is also rather as though I had become a giant tube of toothpaste and was being mercilessly squeezed) for about 20 min. It's hard to estimate the time really because it seemed a lot longer to me. I was in this weird zone where part of my brain was analytically observing what was going on ("My goodness I am making a lot of noise, how embarrassing") and another animal part of me was just going "gggnnnnneeerrr".

They wanted to see how far up the baby was but when I got out and lay down on the sofa they discovered she was only 1 cm away from crowning so they just cheered me on and 3 pushes later she was squirming on my stomach. The MW were great, very supportive and encouraging but not too overbearing. They both said at the start that they loved home births which was nice to hear. A half hour later everyone was just bustling round tidying up and getting me in the shower. We also had cake and tea and sparkling rose! By 11:30 the MW had gone and I was in bed with my little sweetie. It was all so calm and normal and comfy.

shazza my top tip poolwise is to make SURE the hoses work to fill it before you go into labour! DH ended up filling ours with a leaky bucket, which added a bit of a comic touch but is not ideal. It really makes a huge difference in terms of pain relief, and you feel warm and supported which is important as it is so hard to find comfortable positions in between contractions.

dildals I feel the same as you about church services. I have thought about having DS and now DD christened but I don't know if I will get around to it really. I am really glad your vicar is able to give you some comfort about Georgia too; I would feel the same way if I had lost a child.

I'm sure that if Bella had wanted or needed a feed this morning she would have let you know. Minipang is just sleeping and feeding at the moment. She slept for 4.5 hrs the other night (my milk hadn't come in yet) and I did too! I couldn't believe it when I woke up and saw the clock because I haven't slept that long without waking since about last Xmas. Quite sure that was a one off though which won't happen again until she's about 2.

beetle hello again! I hope you get some relief from the mentalling, it really does get better!

Hi to everyone else -I can't believe your experiences re seats on trains! I never had a problem with people giving up a seat for me on public transport but when I was pg with DS I went on a hospital tour and in the full waiting room not one man gave up his seat for me despite the fact i was 36 weeks pregnant AND on crutches (for my SPD)! I still can't believe it to this day. Just a bad sample of the general population I guess.

Whoops, mini pang is stirring and rootling around with her little rosebud mouth so I think a feed is in order.

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