Pregnant (IVF) Worriers

[Dildals]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

[keepitgoing]

Oh my goodness al what a nightmare. I'm so pleased all is OK. Are you working still? Yes, just count those six weeks down.

shaz that sounds super scary too. Gosh, it's all so frightening isn't it?

Congratulations on your perfect little girl fairy!!

buzzy good luck for the scan today.

I agree about contraception. Even though the chance feels small I think I couldn't not think about it. For me, we're either trying, in which case it's lots of shagging or FETs etc, or we're not. And I'd need something to stop me obsessing. I am Loving not TTC, btw. No periods, timed shags, dildo cams (my last scan was finally external!) It's all such a relief.

Am still awaiting my blood test results. Might work up the courage to ring...

[keepitgoing]

And I did, and am low risk! :)

[MarianaTrench]

Shaz that sounds more gastric to me. I've always found it's very easy to confuse gastric and uterine pains. Never underestimate the pain potential of trapped wind (I was crying with it after my section!)

Expatal, my consultant always said things were very much less likely to go wrong once you got past 28 weeks so I always had that as a significant milestone. Just a bit nearer for you than 32.

keep, I'm absolutely loving not ttc. It's a huge weight that's been lifted. For me it's not the risk of having another baby I can't stand but the thought of losing another baby. I'd like to end my fertility (mis)adventures on a high.

Gorgeous day here. I'm just about to pack a picnic and take my girls off to the local country park for a few hours.

Have a good day everyone.

PS. Forty is, of course, not old relatively speaking but it is old for me as an individual with regard to fertility - I've already experienced loss due to chromosomal disorder so my eggs are probably dodgier than other 40 year olds. Am I just digging a bigger hole here?!

[MarianaTrench]

Great stuff keep!

[Shazzamattazzerly]

Yay Keep. Great news. Such a relief. NOW you can shout it from the rooftops! Enjoy!

Expat so glad you are feeling better.

Mariana so envious of your day out with your girls

Thanks for the reassurance. I reckon it was trapped wind. Oh the glamour of it. Thankfully I'm back to feeling hungry today. In fact I'm starving this morning! So that must be a good sign.

All this talk of contraception or kack if makes me want to try for a baby

Xx

[Shazzamattazzerly]

Sorry 'lack of it'. Bloody iPhone!

[MrsHY1]

Hello all
Right, I've not worked out how to view more than one page of messages without losing the message you're working on, so forgive me if I've missed anyone out (which I'm bound to have done as the bottom message is only from yesterday!! We're really talkative at the moment!!)
Shazz DH and I have also had name rows. I like quite vintage sounding names, which DH terms as 'middle class, smug and pretentious'. When we find out what we're having, at least we can narrow the row down to one! Oh, and bloody hell re yesterday. I have had a few crampy type pains which I actually think are gut related rather than womble related (nice) but nothing like what you're describing. It does sound like it could be ligament pain, not that I know much about it but it seems to be in the right place?
On the contraception front, we're not going to use anything in the hope that mother nature will get her figging act together and I don't have to go through IVF again. I've lost track of the number of stories I've now heard from friends, colleagues and midwives about women who've had to have IVF, only to pop more out without trying afterwards. But for every one of those women, I bet there are 20 who still need the big pharmaceutical guns rolled in! Hey ho.
Foody you're not being stalkerish at all. You're always welcome here.
Noks congratulations on the scan! I like the sound of the 'angry flip'. It sounds like some kind of ice skating move. I don't know about you, but when I saw mine wriggling around at week 10 and 12 I got a bit annoyed I couldn't feel anything yet!
Expat bloody hell, you poor thing, to have to go through all of that worry again. But I'm SO glad to hear things are looking OK. Phew.
Fairy a DD! Amazing! One of each for you! So pleased that you're happy and relieved and all the other cool stuff that happens after a positive scan!
Hurrah for your results keep! And have a lovely day out Mariana.

Nothing much to report here, no more scans until 30th July when I'll be 22 weeks. Not sure I can hold out until then but will try!

Finally stopped the fanny bullets last week and spent a few anxious days knicker watching, convinced that I'd start to bleed, but nothing yet. Other than that, I've started with the old bio-oil and stretchmark cream and hoping for the best. Still eating like a horse - really attracted to anything beige (crisps, chips, bread - mainly carbs!) so trying really hard to make sure I get my five a day.
PS, was given a book the other day called 'Bumpology' - its written by a medical writer and journalist and basically looks at various myths/ facts/ NHS guidelines against all of the available clinical trial data. It's a lot easier to read than it sounds and so far has proven to me that the NHS doesn't know best! E.g. this whole listeria debate - NHS says mould ripened and blue cheeses bad, as even if pasturised the listeria can live on in those damp environments. So we avoid them. And yet, when the author analysed reported cases of listeria in the UK and US, the most common offenders were butter and prepacked sandwiches! Just makes you think really. Not saying I'm going to run out for a hunk of roquefort (although I would LOVE to) but it has made me feel like I have more of an informed choice. Apparently she pits all of the baby routines against each other too - haven't got to that bit yet though!

[Dildals]

On the contraception front - I so enjoy being pregnant that I am a bit sad that I won't be able to do it again. Secretly already planning a third (with my heart), head says to wait until we have the babies. THere is of course also a fair chance that I will fall out of love with pregnancy in the coming months ... I think my thighs are starting to chafe? My bikini line area is really tender and a few of my moles have come up to wart-size?! Have also booked an appt with the physio to see if we can do something about the pelvic pain I have been having. Walking is becoming painful. At first I thought pelvic pain was just something hormonal, but from google I know understand that it is mechanical. So hopefully physio can sort me out.

Can I just ask a question, a silly question, a TMI question? I have put my helmet on to protect myself against the canned foods that you will potentially start throwing now ... So. Here goes. What are the chances of me being able to sneeze/laugh/run/jump after childbirth without weeing myself? I know it is all about healthy babies coming out, but if I do have a choice of c-section vs natural then this is defo a factor that weighs heavily! I already get caught off guard by sneezes and I am doing SO MANY pelvic floor exercises, that if it was an Olympic sport I would easily qualify for Rio 2016.

fairy Ooooh, a girl as well! And you also thought a boy initially! Brace yourself for some weeping while fondling little pink shoes! :-)

expat you are more than welcome.

MrsHY sounds like a good book, I'll see if the local library has it! I did read Gina and the baby whisperer. I quite liked both of them and actually didn't find them that different. I think you take from it what works and leave what doesn't.

On a different note - surely it is not too early to have lunch right?! :-)

[CrazyClaire]

Hi ladies,

Literally just joined this forum and this was the 1st thread that I found and I could relate to. Bit of background - Im Claire , 33 yrs old have a 13 yr old from a previous relationship. We struggled for 5 yrs to become pregnant, problem being both my tubes were found to be blocked after a lap and dye during our time of being referred to nhs infertility clinic. I had them both unblocked but then went on to have 2 miscarriages and a ruptured ectopic where I lost my right tube. We then had no success so a 2nd lap and dye was done and my remaining tube was blocked again, had it unblocked but had no success.
So we then saved the money needed for Ivf (didnt qualify on nhs) and did Ivf with Icsi last August, it didnt work but we had a fantastic result of getting 11 blastocysts to freeze. Did our 1st frozen embryo transfer in November last year - that didnt work either, had a break over christmas and did our 2nd frozen transfer in Feb which was successful :D Had bleeding and lots of brown discharge from weeks 5 - 9 but baby hung on in there and Im now 17 weeks.

Phew bit of an essay there sorry lol. Im now trying to accept that Im pregnant and enjoy pregnancy but I just cannot stop worrying and being so paranoid its really hard to deal with and as much as I try I cannot imagine getting to November and having a healthy baby. Im hoping and pretty sure that theres plenty of women on this thread that feel exactly the same. Its very hard for other people who havent been through all these kind of things to comprehend where Im coming from, I feel like if I dare relax then itll be taken away.

[fairypangolin]

claire you' re definitely not crazy, you'll fit right in here! Congratulations on the pregnancy. You'll have a scan in a couple of weeks, right? Hopefully that will help to reduce your worry somewhat, especially as you'll start to feel the baby moving as well (if not already). I just had my 20 wk scan yesterday and feel v relieved that everything is fine.

dildals I'm sorry about the pelvic pain. I have the same problem. It is worse when I sit for long periods or go for long slow walks. Along with pain in my hips I have a very weird feeling of inflammation or intense itchiness in the front, where the pubic bone hinges. That is almost more bothersome than the pain. I have been to see a physio about it with my first pregnancy but she was useless (she kept saying it was 'lower back pain' due to 'weak abdominals' when I knew absolutely for certain it was nothing of the kind!) I went to a clinic as well for PGP/SPD but they just gave us pelvic floor exercises and a stretchy belt to wear (which was of some help). There is really little appetite on the part of health professionals to do anything about it, it seems to me their view is that you will get better immediately after birth so just lump it in the meantime. Or else they only advise you limit your movements to avoid pain rather than anything useful to prevent pain. But if you have a private physio who understands what the problem is he or she may be more helpful.

AS for the weeing question I don't know because I had a c-section (about the only benefit of that I can see!)

I am also having a big problem with itchiness in my groin at the tops of my legs. I think it must be due to getting a bit more sweaty than usual because my temperature is raised and I am a lot fatter than normal. It is driving me crazy though, particularly at night. Has anyone else had this? I have tried talcum powder,wearing loose clothes etc but it makes little difference.

keep great news re the low risk results!

[Dildals]

Hi claire. Safe to say you have found your thread! Most of us have had trouble conceiving and somehow that means we end up worrying about everything until the baby pops out (and after that as well probably) !

[buzzybee123]

It doesn't look like good news for me so I shall be bowing out, thank you ladies and good luck with your pregnancies

[buzzybee123]

digi now say 1-2 weeks

[ExpatAl]

Buzzy, wait. Do you have anything to make you think his pregnancy is over or is it just the digi results? How many weeks do you think you should be?

[CrazyClaire]

Thank you for your welcomes :D
Our 20 week scan is on 18th June so Im hoping that will relieve some more worry.

[buzzybee123]

I've had a scan, i'm measuring 4 days behind, the digi has dropped from 3+ weeks to 2-3 weeks, I had a headache last night just like I did when I last miscarried and all my symptoms have stopped

[ExpatAl]

Well I am completely the wrong person to tell you not to worry but 5,4 weeks seems very early to be able to accurately judge the size. Was everything where it should be? The digi means nothing - I had a test that said 1-2 weeks when blood test was showing hcg of 2200. Also symptoms typically start at around 7 weeks. Are you bleeding? Sending hugs - it's the worst feeling.

[fairypangolin]

buzzy I agree with all of Expat's comments. At my clinic they don't scan before 7 weeks because it is so hard to judge what size or developmental stage the embryo should be at. Also I don't trust digis to be accurate apart from confirming pregnancy. But good luck my thoughts are with you.

[Dildals]

Did you pee on the digi with dilated urine maybe? My friend had that and almost had a heart attack on the spot. Did the sonographer say that it wasn't good news?

fairy sounds like we have the same thing re itchy groin (sounds v glamorous doesn't it?) I made DH dig out his talcum powder this morning. I haven't got any pain at the front (pubis). I asked the private physio whether she had experience with PGD and she said she has. We'll see. Apparently it doesn't always get better after birth.

[ExpatAl]

Pilates! Is totally the thing for PGD. Also google the mutu system.

[putthecrispsDOWN]

buzzy steady on. Have you been told anything definitive? It must be completely frustrating that it's too early to see a heartbeat on the scan so you could have an answer. And ignore the peesticks, I got myself in a right state over those. The dating ones aren't very accurate anyway and they will drive you nuts. How is your cramping, has it eased any? Sending wishes and hugs and as many positive thoughts as I can muster your way.

Welcome to the madhouse claire!

shazza did you get the list of names?

expat how are you feeling today? hope you are feeling a bit brighter with a few days' distance from your scare a week ago.

dildals I ended up throwing Gina out of the bedroom window with Dd1(literally). I still stuck to a routine and would do in the future but her '7.30...have a shower and a cup of tea...7.45...your baby will do cartwheels' was a bit prescriptive. Some of her principles were good but I had issues with leaving Dd to cry. Haven't read the baby whisperer though, how was it?

Went to see me today. Was all good except she told me that I should have been taking 5mg of folic acid every day up to 12weeks. Have only been taking 1.2mg after being told so by sonographer and feel really guilty. Have the right prescription now but a bit cross that no one thought to mention it until now.

How is everyone else? All good I hope X

[putthecrispsDOWN]

Ooh sorry expat must have out the * in the wrong place, it looked I've I was shouting at you there!

[Dildals]

expat I know you are a big fan of pilates but I am already doing 2 classes a week and it is doing sweet F all. I know you are now going to say I am not in the 'right' class or with the 'right' instructor, but I have tried 2 different instructors now too. Sometimes it is time for a health professional. This is that time. :-)

[buzzybee123]

I have no symptoms, I feel normal this is what happened last time I had a miscarriage, I'm having strange pains down there, they won't say anything until my next scan, last time they kept scanning me for nearly a month before they confirmed it was failing, I can'y do this for another month, the digi has never lied to me before, I won't be bleeding as I'm on so many drugs right now

[putthecrispsDOWN]

Oh buzzy I'm so sorry, how awful for you. I really hope the next few days bring something good for you. My symptoms did disappear for a while too, I hope this is just a blip for you and that everything will work out. Much love X