Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

[Reebok]

Thanks you for the info...will carry on googling to be sure. My doctor just smiled when I said I was drinking that at the beginning and said if it helps you feel better, to drink it. I'm 14 weeks tomorrow. Hmm two seem manageable...just don't want to dehydrate myself as I end up sipping less water...must be all the sugar which is helping. I feel like an addict...keep looking at the can but know I can't drink in gulps. Funnily, I hated coke/Pepsi before pregnancy and only liked orange juice or lucozade (which I can't drink now).

[LucindaE]

Reebok Will that dr not even prescribe the ranatadine that MOP found so helfpul? That acid and puking bile is so awful; Gaviscon is sickening and re-appears as a strange foam . Slowly, the time is approaching when you will start to improve. it did happen even to Kali who had one of the worst cases on this thread, I think. It didn't entirely go away but it did improve a lot.
Littlemiss Those cuddles with babies - how sweet, that's a lovely reminder.
Hopeful I am sure I habitually drank so much coke or Lucozade when I could that I went over that limit constantly, but what is one to do? You have to get liquids down somehow and you need the sugar energy boost.
Room Belle and everyone, how have things been?
Lucinda
xx

[Reebok]

He's already put me on ranatadine but doesn't do much. The coke helped yesterday I must admit but as I've said I don't want to dehydrate myself as I end up only drinking that. Wanted doc to put me on the next med but he won't. Really hope so. Today I just threw up a little water when I woke up but it's because I drank it on an empty stomach. Really hope you're right Lucinda and it improves. I need to go back to work soon...my pay will go down soon and we can't afford it. So praying for better health ASAP.

Hope everyone else is feeling better. X

[LittleMissSnowShine]

Reebok - I wonder would coke zero be less dehydrating?

hopeful - my friend is an obstetrician and she just had her first baby a few weeks ago. She had to do night shifts until 32 weeks and she was still delivering babies by c section and with forceps with her huge bump right up to 36 weeks. She suffered badly with sickness too and she just slugged away at the caffeinated fizzy drinks and coffee to keep her going - so I guess even drs don't follow their own advice!!

I had another acupuncture session this morning. Both times I've been I've felt a bit hungry afterwards so on the way home I had to stop and get petrol and I picked up a sandwich from the fridge cabinet. It was chicken and mayo so nothing particularly crazy but for some reason it just really appealed to me. Came home and started eating it. Got half way through and then threw it all back up. Back to square one - bed rest and more Greys Anatomy. Ho hum!

[Reebok]

Eurgh to coke zero! Tastes awful! I need the sugar to stay slightly energetic. Now that you've mentioned your friend though, I feel slightly less guilty drinking it...especially as she is a medical professional. Littlemiss you poor thing! I hate if when that happens. Rest up and hope you feel better soon.

[Reebok]

Thought I'd bring a bit of laughter to the group....I have terrible phlegm so was coughing it up and almost wet myself! Had to force myself to hold it in long enough to get to the loo! Put a smile on my face and brought a bit of laughter to my day though even if it was for a short time. :)

[LucindaE]

Reebok Lol, I wet myself repeatedly! It was my speciality! .
LittlemissHow foul about chicken and mayo sandwich. I do hope the acupunture is helping a bit? It's so expensive.
Apologies to Anyone' I've rudely ignored.
Lucinda
xx

[Reebok]

Lol I've been told to expect it often Lucinda. My bladder is extremely weak already! If I had energy, would do those pelvic exercises. Luckily I'm at home if an accident had occurred! Ah the joys of pregnancy!

[LittleMissSnowShine]

Lucinda - Yes, it is pricey! I was still a student when I was pg with DS (well a postgrad one but still broke) so I think that's why I didn't try it then. I think it is helping a bit but the chicken sandwich incident may undermine that theory!!

Reebok - My pelvic floor isn't in the greatest condition since DS was born. Most of the time it doesn't really cause me any bother but if I have a full bladder and I start wretching hard I really do pee myself a little bit. It is incredibly disgusting and one of the many reasons I am not in work at the minute!! HG is just so....undignified!

Hope everyone is having a good (or at least ok!) day :)

[hopeful92]

Anyone know how to get rid of this foul, bitter, sour taste in my mouth? Feel like ive got constant morning breath!! Been trying to get rid of it for like 17 weeks!

[Reebok]

Littlemiss, it's very undignified!

Hopeful, unfortunately I think it's another horrid side effect we have to face....I eat starburst to help take away the taste for a few minutes but other than that, I think the only way to get rid of it is labour.

[LucindaE]

Reebok It's embarrsing for sure! At least urine's sterile, I believe...There was a craze among film stars for washing their faces in their own urine, would you believe, back in the nineties!
Hopeful I had in a supply of those old fashioned barley sugar sweets a funny little sweetshop sold and they helped, but on a bad day sucking sweets can be sickening too. You'll laugh, but I chewed fresh mint too.
I do so hope the Acupunture does turn things about for you, Littlemiss. Everyone who's tried it seems to find it helps a bit,but really dramatic improvals don't seem to be as common as I'd hoped.
Lucinda
xx

[Reebok]

Eurgh on their face! That's gross!

Am quite proud of myself...managed a small plain baked potato today...has stayed down so far. Feeling quite dizzy though but think may be because I had 2 cokes and very little water. Having that 'come down' after initial buzz of energy. Not an awful day today so praying this may be the start of better health!

[BelleEtLaBete]

Hey ladies.

Just popping in with a quick hello. Had a better day on Sun but yesterday at work was pretty bad and I feel shocking this morning. I'm getting observed today (I'm a teacher) and have managed to sneakily find out what time - 9;45 :( I was still leaving the room to be sick at 11 yesterday. I hope I don't get graded down if I have to scuttle off. The mornings definitely seem worse and the stemetil is helping but seems to take a while to take effect :(

The taste in your mouth can be caused by mild ketosis - people who do the Atkins diet can get this. Grim, isn't it.

Hope you're all doing ok. Wish me luck for not vomiting on my observer!
Xx

[LittleMissSnowShine]

Lucinda - Strangely I seem worse since acupuncture yesterday!! Lots of throwing up yesterday and this morning, totally wiped out. Have to phone GP to get line extended, I might ask him whether it's worth me still sticking with cyclazine or if it's time to try something else... Fed up!!

hopeful - I like cinnamon things (like Big Red) or mint tea to try and get rid of the taste in my mouth but it's basically permanent

Belle - Good luck with your inspection. If anything you should get marked up for soldiering through work while you're feeling so terrible :)

[Nexus6]

Thanks for the support :) Gums are all back to normal, I avoided antibiotics and just used alcohol free corsidol three times a day and kept my teeth as clean as possible.

I'm not against antibiotics in terms of baby's health- I think they would be fine but with HM your stomach is just so damn sensitive that a course of antibiotics is like setting off a nuke in your belly.

[LucindaE]

Belle You are still at work, teaching?! You deserve a medal! Do they know yu have Hyperemesis, because the idea of your being marked down is outrageous and srely sexual descrimination, men not being put in this position...Best of luck on assessment, I don't know how you've avoided being sick in the classroom to be honest. Everyone else must be a tidier puker than me. I did work with another woman who had very nasty MS borderline Hyperemesis who was sick on her keyboard, putting it out of action...serves the boss right for being unsympathetic.
Reebok Yes, these beauty fads! Maybe the urine increased the beauty of my bathroom floor . Congratulations on that potato, a lot of women always find as per MOH's website that potato based foods are the ones that seem to stay down, I don't know why...I'll keep my fingers crossed, you deserve a break, my goodness.
Littlemiss Oh no! Poor you, this is too bad, hugs on offer! Can you phone the Acupunturist to enquire? I suppose it's possible the homeopathic thing sometimes applies - that the symptoms are exacerbated before improving - but that hasn't applied to others at all, so it seems worth asking. I think it's definitely a good idea to get a change of meds - after all, there are a number to choose from and cyclezine's only the first they ususally try (you can even get it over the counter).
Nexus I am so relieved that that awful infection as gone, for sure antibiotics would be the last straw for the stomach...
Thinking of Everyone
Lucinda
xx

[Reebok]

Belle, I don't know how you are managing to work! You do deserve a medal! I'm a teacher too but have been signed off since 6 weeks. Those observations are nerve wracking enough without being sick. I hope it went well.

Littlemiss, sorry you're feeling so bad.

Not having a great morning. Dizziness not gone and once again threw up bile so my throat and chest are currently on fire. I hate acid reflux! Praying the little brekkie I managed stays down.

[LittleMissSnowShine]

Reebok - Yes, carby, potato based stuff and oatcakes are always good for me. I might go crazy and try a baked potato this afternoon!

Lucinda - Wow...on her keyboard!! It will be hell for me when I do go back into work because it's a hell of a run from my desk to the toilets, past a whole lot of people!!

GP phoned back - he's a very nice, older guy, in his sixties and very old school. He's very wary of giving out meds in general during pg, which I do understand because obviously I would much rather not be taking them either and I'd rather have a GP that was cautious about that than reckless. Anyway tho, he's upgrading me from cyclizine to Prochlorperazine. Anyone else tried this one? I just stuck with cyclazine when I was pg with DS and it was 3 years ago so my memory might be a bit foggy but I do think it worked better for me then, this time round I just seem to be stuck in the house and worse...mostly flippin stuck in bed!!

[nemo08]

Sorry haven't posted lately. I regularly check on you all and am astounded by your courage and perseverance under such horrible conditions. HG really is a nasty piece of work :(

I had everything planned for TTC-ing this month (including a prescription for ondansetron and metoclopramide given my Mr Shehata to use as soon as i have bfp). However I had a tummy bug at the weekend and the less than 24 hours of throwing up and feleing crap brought HG memories back to me. And now I'm in a mental mess, thinking i can't put myself through this again :( I'm just not sure I'm mentally strong enough.
I suffer from anxiety and depression and am on antidepressants but everything is well controlled. I just worry that the emotional pressure HG puts on you will be too much for me. I'm just too weak

So reconsidering (again) staying at 1 healthy and happy child (3.5 yrs old now). Not what I wanted ......

Everyone around me is syaing "go for it, the durgs wil help"....but they haven't experience HG and how horrible it is not only physically but emotionally and mentally as well....and that's what worrying me the most.

sorry for waffling, this is the oly place where I know people understand how horrible HG is and why it would make someone think twice before getting pg again :(

[LittleMissSnowShine]

nemo - I feel your pain! This is my third pg and I had awful HG with DS, then I had bad nausea in second pg that was a lot easier to cope with but that sadly ended in mmc. I had somehow still managed to convince myself that if I got pg again the sickness would be more like the second time than the first. Unfortunately it's not, I'm right back in HG hell again and it's hard because it's all so familiar. All I can say is that I'm 11+2 now and even though the sickness is really bad, I do find that I am managing it better - having done it all before, yes, I am pretty much bed ridden but I don't need to be hospitalised this time because I'm using the meds, making sure to get enough fluid, I know what to expect a lot better so I don't push myself, I stay off my feet and I'm just waiting it out. It's hard going, particularly with not being able to look after DS at the minute, but I do feel like it will all be worth it in the end. And then I'm making DH get the snip!!! There's no guarantee you def would have HG again but in the end only you can make the choice and I completely agree, having family and friends who haven't been through HG telling you it will all be fine is well meaning but not helpful. Good luck with whatever you choose to do x

[Reebok]

Little miss, it's the first time I've managed to hold down a potato product. Yay! Really tempted to try it with cheese today but think I should stick to plain to be safe.

Nemo, I can completely understand what you mean about the fear of trying again...I don't have any DC yet but this is my second pregnancy...lost first to mmc. I didn't think I would be able to try again after the mc as I had such bad HG and felt like dying. I managed it however, now I keep thinking there is no way I can go through it again...I don't know. I may change my mind in MANY years time. But for now I'm set on this one which upsets me as I've always wanted two. My sis who has not experienced HG annoys me as she says 'you don't know you will get hg a third time.' She has no idea how difficult HG makes your life...hard enough looking after just myself let alone another child! So I completely get what you mean. Whatever you do decide to do though....remember this group is here for you and will give you the support you need. X

[cupcake78]

It's back! I'm 18 weeks and I've had the honor of 10 days free and this morning I had to run to the toilet and off I go!

I'm so disappointed, I'm back to feeling knackered, feeling sick, being sick and generally rubbish.

When will it end

[cupcake78]

Nemo I also am on anti depressants for anxiety and depression. This is my 4th pregnancy. I have 1 dc. All pregnancies have been horrendous with sickness and yes I find it emotionally difficult to deal with, not impossible but its hard.

I waited till ds was 5 and started school before considering another child. I'm not sure if its easier as I'm having to get up and do the school run and collect as well as try and work and entertain ds.

Basically HG it's not a deal breaker but its bloody hard physically and mentally to keep going. Only you can make the decision but I know for me this is it, I'm not doing it again, I've had enough!

Good luck

[hopeful92]

Nemo - Ultimately, only you can make the decision of whether or not you can face putting your mind and body through HG again. It is physically and mentally draining, but all for a good cause. This is my first pregnancy, and even though I am suffering so badly, it hasn't put me off going through it again but I have always wanted more than one child (everyone says I'm mad thinking about more already after being so ill and being hospitilized and everything and still being sick every day!)

If you do decide to TTC again, just know that we are all here to support you every sickly step of the way :)