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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 09/01/2013 18:32

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

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LucindaE · 04/03/2013 12:42

Waves Might it be possible to contact consultant, say that your ketones are now at a level where you should be having IV again, but you are desperate not to miss the appointment this time? Might he be able to see you in the ward as you are so ill? Poor you, this is so disheartening. I do know women who got better round the twenty two week mark, and I am so hoping you are one.
Suffolk I'm not a medical person, but I think the fainting isn't a sinister sign in itself, but worth leaving a message to the GP about just in case.

Room I wouldn't make yourself suffer - it sounds like you came off the drugs too early, and you don't want to get back into that neuro thing where the brain gets used to vomiting. Don't be guilty - nobody would be on the meds if they cold avoid it.
Lucinda
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fl0b0t · 04/03/2013 13:31

Hi all.
lucinda - I work for an environmental charity- so it's practice what you preach! I hate driving anyway, so if I can avoid it, i'm keen. My colleague hasn't had any sickness at ALL but she's been very sympathetic!

Poor DH was ill today and he's been even more sympathetic than usual today!!!

MOH100 · 04/03/2013 19:56

room I can't find the table comparing mild, moderate and severe, but here's a comparison of morning sickness and HG www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

RoomForALittleOne · 04/03/2013 22:29

Thanks MOH. I could've sworn it was on the Helpher website but can't find it now. I wanted to see it because it had a row in the table about symptoms resolving in late pregnancy/severity of symptoms at that stage.

Today has been awful. I can't even remember why I desperately wanted to come off the ondansetron now. I feel very weak and can't think straight but I still haven't been as sick as the early days.

wavesandsmiles · 04/03/2013 23:25

I need a slap for being stubborn and not going to hospital today. Ketones got back to 4+ earlier this afternoon and I'm still retching and vomiting. Appointment is at 10.45 tomorrow morning but thinking I may call the ward first to see whether I should go there or to see the specialist. Collapsed this evening and have really hurt my hip as I landed on the floorboards. Probably a combination of low bp and low blood sugars, not nice.

Sorry not to name check, am posting from bed and I think my brain is already switching off

Reebok · 05/03/2013 02:15

Room I'm sorry to hear you're feelibg rough again but glad its not as bad as before. I remember how bad you had if so hopefully the fact it is slightly calmer is a sign of good things to come for you. Hang in there.

Waves, ive noticed from previous posts how bad you've had it. Sending you gentle hugs. Hoping it will ease up for you and all the others suffering soon.

Am trying to wean myself off ranitidine but have a feeling I may need it until the end. Never mind. Have my 20 week scan tomorrow so can't sleep. So scared. I know it's madness but the scars of a mmc stay with you forever.

Tallyra · 05/03/2013 07:01

waves please stop trying to tough it out. you'll end up with injuries as well as illness and you can't afford that. I get really worried every time you say your ketones are getting high again. Call the heard and ask them to get a drip ready for you.
is there no way you can just go in for a bag a day once you are back on track?
Reebok I'm with you. after losing 3 all by 9 weeks I despair of getting any further. you will be fine though, 20 weeks is fantastic!

Tallyra · 05/03/2013 07:31

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LucindaE · 05/03/2013 09:50

Waves My goodness, only came on now, we had a power cut,you wicked thing, you know as others say that you shouldn't try and tough it out, that muddle headed feeling is a symptom of severe dehyration, I expect you are back in hospital by now. You should be for sure. My big idea about maybe if you rang the consultant to explain (though I know it's so difficult when yuo can hardly talk for fear of setting off retching) he might agree to come to the ward didn't come off obviously! Oh dear, you poor thing with a hurt hip after a fainting fit. Sending loads of cyber sympathy, hugs, pats, whatever you can stand.
Reebok Lovely to hear from you, and Talyra and Everyone back soon, have to deal with electrician.
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 05/03/2013 12:08

Worried about Waves. Reebok Hugs, I was the same, though you know logically if it's got to twenty weeks, the chances are overwhelmingly that everything will be fine, but after an mmc you never lose that nagging fear, it's horrible.I hope you've had a lovely look at baby now.
Talyra You will get there. I think Kalidasa had several miscarriages. It's very hard for you, you're being very brave.
Lucinda
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wavesandsmiles · 05/03/2013 12:15

Thinking of you and your scan tomorrow reebok.

I've seen my consultant, who also had a look at baby quickly who looks super happy, wriggling about with plenty of amniotic fluid. She sent me back to hospital, so just waiting to have a cannula in again, more bloods, IV fluids and IV anti emetics. This time they may let me home overnight and leave the cannula in so I can come up daily for top ups.

I'll find out when she comes to review me this evening and put a treatment plan in place. I'm kind of glad I did tough it out as it was very useful to have that proper appointment, and having the extra and unexpected peek at the baby was lovely

RoomForALittleOne · 05/03/2013 12:25

So I went to the GP and he confirmed that I should go back on the ondansetron. He checked my urine for ketones after the joy of the last few days. Thankfully that was negative but I had ++ of glucose! I now have the joy of a GTT next Wednesday. I have to drink 500ml of lucozade within 5 minutes! How am I supposed to not vomit that???

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Tallyra · 05/03/2013 13:26

Waves so glad you have been seen and scanned. Sounds like it's cheered you up no end to have that appointment. Yay for getting top-ups!

Room Can you find non-fizzy lucozade? I know I wouldn't be able to drink the fizzy stuff and I'm not even ill right now!

Good luck Suffolk!!!

fl0b0t · 05/03/2013 16:08

Everyone sounds like they're suffering :(

I can't believe it's only Tuesday as I'm feeling rough as all hell today. I'm just trying to tough out the last hour at work then I can walk back to the station in the sunshine and then sleep on the train. Feeling so utterly rubbish :( Think I did too much this weekend. Luckily I've got two quiet days (working at home) then one mad day then it's the weekend (although I'm booked in to do some fundraising on Saturday standing outside a supermarket for 3 1/2 hours.....)

Yesterday I managed an afternoon nap from 5-6pm and I felt massively dehydrated and disorientated for about 20 minutes afterwards (I hate napping) but then the evening went well and I even did the washing up (which a)I've been too tired to do and b)made me gag like all hell).

MOH100 · 05/03/2013 16:35

room I've just trawled through the helpher website and discovered the mild, moderate, severe table on the homepage!! www.helpher.org you have to scroll right down to the bottom. Trawling was useful though, they've added a lot of stuff since the last time I had a good look through.

Did anyone see Caitlin Dean of Pregnancy Sickness Support on bbc breakfast news this morning? She was on five live as well.

MOH100 · 05/03/2013 16:47

Sorry, don't scroll to the bottom it's more like half way down

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LucindaE · 05/03/2013 16:58

Waves I am so glad it turned out comparatively OK - I was dismayed when you said you felt confused as I had that when I arrived in a state of collapse at the Acupunturist's when I was suffering. I remember him trying to talk to me, using the 'H' word, and me not being able to take it in and I know now that's a sign of severe dehydration. That's a good idea about the top ups. Nice baby was swimming happily. Grin
Suffolk Good luck with meds.
Flo Fund raising? Oh, no, can you get out of it, or take a light collapsible stool as you don't want to faint. Poor you, battling along at work and YUK about washing up when you feel sick anyway.
Room That's a good idea of Taylras about the Lucozade being flat - that is much easier to bear, but surely they know there's a risk you won't be able to retain it? Good luck with the test.
Reebok Hugs again and all luck with the scan, you won't need it!
Taylra Smile.
Lucinda
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Reebok · 05/03/2013 17:36

Yay! Scan was perfect! My beautiful little girl is healthy despite the vomiting and awful HG for the first 4 months or so. It made me realise I would do anything for her...yes even the struggle of living through HG. Whether il do it for another baby is a different story though!

Hope everyone is feeling slightly better today.

Reebok · 05/03/2013 17:41

Yay! Scan was perfect! My beautiful little girl is healthy despite the vomiting and awful HG for the first 4 months or so. It made me realise I would do anything for her...yes even the struggle of living through HG. Whether il do it for another baby is a different story though!

Hope everyone is feeling slightly better today.

RoomForALittleOne · 05/03/2013 19:14

Congratulations Reebok! It's a good feeling when you get to see a wiggly baby.

MOH thank-you so much for finding that table for me! I reckon that I sit within the moderate band this time and had mild HG with DD1 and DD2. So I feel like it's OK to be back on ondansetron but very glad I'm not in the severe category.

As for the lucozade, I have to buy a specific one. Maybe I'll give it a good shake beforehand?! I can't believe I had glucose in my urine after the past few days!

wavesandsmiles · 05/03/2013 19:45

Congratulations on the scan reebok you are evidently over the moon.

I'm settling down for a night in hospital, they pushed a litre through in an hour, then I had a second over 4 hours. Another 2 litres planned for overnight, then 2 tomorrow morning and home at lunchtime. I'll be given my ondansetron and ranitidine through the cannula, and 2 litres of fluids each day so whilst I still have to come to hospital, at least I'll be home with the DCs each night.

Step one is to get me properly rehydrated then my consultant will look at how best to get calories into me. Really pleased I had my proper appt with my actual consultant as she is determined to make this all as manageable as possible for me.

Good luck room with the GTT, let us know how you get on. I have to have one at 28 weeks because of family history and hoping by then I'll be able to drink that much so quickly without vomiting....

Hope everyone else is ok

BankWuggery · 05/03/2013 22:14

Hi all. So sorry you are all going through this. I am a HG "Survivor" - ds1 is now 8 (hg all the way through bar weeks 30-34, hospitalised 6 times for total of nearly 7 weeks, lost 3 stone at one point and was 1/2 stone lighter when I gave birth than when I'd got pregnant) and ds2 is 4. (with him hg was worse, was sick 50 times a day at one point and just breathing through my mouth instead of my nose would make me vom!)

I didn't really believe that it would happen a second time- and now we are trying to conceive no.3. Er hello? Am I stoopid? It would appear so.

I had masses of support from Mumsnet thanks to a similar thread to this back in the day- a poster called Peachy (I think) was so knowledgeable that I often said a little prayer of thanks for her even though I'm not religeous! AddictedtoHaribo was also a stalwart at another point- not sure if either are still about on Mumsnet. I've namechanged myself since so we wouldn't know even if we did cross paths.

I haven't been able to read through the whole thread but wanted to tell you to keep your peckers up and keep sucking the murray mints/scratching and sniffing lemons/chewing icecubes out of a glass of strong hi-juice squash/insert remedy of choice here. Ondansetron was the only thing that actually stopped me being sick- but it was the nausea that was debilitating, I could have coped with vomming if I hadnt felt so bloody dizzy and unwell. Cyclizine via injection gave me fantastic psychadelic and electric dreams the first couple of times I had it, but that and metacloprimide/stemetil/whatever else didnt do a blind thing. Only the Zofran.

I am actually a bit scared now typing this. What are we thinking?