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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 09/01/2013 18:32

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

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LittleMissSnowShine · 08/02/2013 14:53

waves - he is just a selfish idiot! His ex is the one who had the placental abruption, not him!! And if anything that should make him more protective over you, not inclined to walk out and leave you coping with this. Glad you saw lawyer, hope you are starting to feel a little better?

Still mystery cold/flu/virus Still illness HQ at snow towers and DH, who said he'd get away from work early and be home by 3:30 tried to phone and give me some excuse about work being busy and my hormones / headache / wailing toddler made me just put phone down on him lol It's annoying because MiL was perfectly willing to take DH for a few hours today to give me a break since I am also sick as a dog but cos DH was so insistent he'd be back early to take over i've been up since half 6 with a feverish, cross 2 year old. Ho and indeed hum. TGIF!

BelleEtLaBaby · 08/02/2013 15:12

Waves handhold for you. I've seen your other thread - what a selfish git, and how brave you are to be going through all this with terrible hg. Your mum also does not sound like much help. Have you got any friends nearby who could help/come stay?

Felt better today so I got up and pottered about the study for a bit - but I feel awful now so am back in bed. DS is at nursery until five so I might attempt a bath in a bit. On the plus side we finally got a move date for our house - have been living with pils since August - next weds! I can't see that I'll be helping much :( But at least I'll be in my own house, with my own things, and can relax a bit more, and get out of bed during the day without feeling like I'm in the way. Good news and I'm pleased.

I keep telling myself that this isn't as bad as last time. And dh keeps reminding me that it's because I'm resting properly and not trying to be superwoman like last time. He's right, of course, but I still feel guilty. Ah well.

Hope all of you are coping ok today xx

wavesandsmiles · 08/02/2013 16:28

I can't cope with this. Another day of vomiting, and crying so much that I must be losing too much fluid through the tears. I want my husband back. I don't want to be sick and by myself, and I don't want to be a single mum again. I want to stop being sick, and I want to be well. It hurts being sick so much, my throat feels picky all the time and it stings and burns when I actually vomit. And I tried to clean the toilet and that made me sick all over again.

I can't get an appointment as I have promised my DCs we will watch a film together this evening, and have a whole weekend of just the 3 of us. So I have to hold on til Monday at least.

I know I have brought the worst of this on myself for battling on for far too long, trying to conceal this at work etc, but I can't turn back the clock.

Sorry for being a bit self obsessed..... I really hope that other people are struggling on ok Thanks

BelleEtLaBaby · 08/02/2013 16:35

Waves: I'm sorry to say this but you simply must put the film with dc's aside and get medical help. Did you say hospital had sent you home with Odansetron by injection? Call your gp, ask for an emergency house call. Please don't try to soldier on: this can be very dangerous if not managed and your dc's will understand. Stuff anything else: rest, rest, rest. No more housework. Call takeaways to feed your dc's. Movement can make this worse so get what you are entitled to and request that house call from your gp.

Remember the adage about air masks on planes? That you must secure yourself before dc's? You are very lovely for trying to put them first but please, you must look after your health. I'm so sorry you are having such a dreadful time xx

BelleEtLaBaby · 08/02/2013 16:37

Ps I'm not sure about this but if you have to be at home and not hospital because of your dc's, they may be able to hydrate you via a picc line at home, and a nurse could come daily and inject your meds for a while until you were under control again? There are home care options available. I will try and find the info for you.

Hang on in there.

fl0b0t · 08/02/2013 17:05

waves I've also seen your other thread and totally agree with the above... You've got to get yourself sorted out. You need to ne healthy, so make sure tu get the medical help you need. I'll ne thinking of you this weekend.

In an unrelated note, I think my drugs are starting to work. I've been very nauseous but haven't vomited for two days. Granted I've spent a lot of time lying down and not moving but it seems to be working! (maybe)

LittleMissSnowShine · 08/02/2013 17:55

waves - yes out of hours gp emergency house call, drugs for mummy and you and the DCs can all watch movies in bed. Hang in there!!

belle - im the same, resting up a lot more this time...boring but effective as you say!

LucindaE · 08/02/2013 18:06

Wqves I so agree with others that a home visit is the thing - sorry to repeat myself but those damn ketones will sky rocket if you try and tough it out. sending more hugs, poor poor you. Of course, youwant him back though he's been so selfish. I expect he will come back, too, but meanwhile you need to sort this violent vomiting out to be able to cope. Make a big fuss about not being able to retian the pills or water, if it's gone on for more than twenty four hours its a medcal emrgency anyway and after two hospitalisations in as many weeks, they won't be dismissive, they wouldn't dare risk it.
MissSnowshine Sorry about foul virus and poor you about that letdown. Hugs.
Flo I am so glad about no puking!
Belle That is some cheerful news, that you'll be in your own house on Wednesday. It's horrible puking in anyone else's house...
Lucinda
xx

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wavesandsmiles · 08/02/2013 20:08

Nothing I can do tonight but reluctantly I think i am going to have to do as they told me on the ward and make a call tomorrow. My mum made a silly joke about me not being allowed to die before changing my will, so I looked up dehydration and it is actually pretty serious....

It's going to sound stupid, but I don't want to be back in hospital because my husband won't come. He knows as well that the bad memory that haunts me most from when I was pg with DD was me being rushed in and being all hooked up and my exh never coming. I forces myself to stay awake thinking I just need to give him another half an hour. At about 1am one of the midwives came and saw me sobbing and made me realise that he really wasn't coming.

This pg was meant to be different, and I don't want the heartache of being in hospital and him not coming. So, deep down, this is why I'm delaying. I can't even cry now,tears aren't coming out.

I'm putting DS to bed in a minute, then going to try have a bath, then put myself to bed I think. Sorry to burden you all with this, and I promise if I'm no better I'll call the hospital in the morning.

BelleEtLaBaby · 08/02/2013 21:41

Oh, waves, it must be very daunting not to have the support of your DH while you are going through this. It really does make you feel so vulnerable, doesn't it. I'm sorry that the support we can give is sort of virtual - nothing like a real life hand hold, especially when you feel so down, and alone. Is your mum being any nicer? I see she made a joke - so you must have spoken again - but is she helping you at all?

Hang on in there. You're nearly 15 weeks - my hg was horrendous last time but lifted just before 16 weeks. Ask the doctor for your meds on a picc line, by regular injection or by suppository or melt-in-the-mouth wafer thingy. I think the ondansetron wafers are called zofran? The logic of giving an anti-emetic via tablet is amazing, isn't it? If they can just get on top of it long enough for you to keep your pills in, you may well start to improve soon. I hope so.

Thanks for you

BelleEtLaBaby · 08/02/2013 21:45

Sorry : I looked it up. They're called Ondansetron ODT - I think it means Oral Disintegrating Tablet. They dissolve in the mouth and absorb so you don't have to swallow and can't throw them up.

Good luck xx

wavesandsmiles · 08/02/2013 22:25

Thanks belle, I'll mention that tomorrow. I'm 15+4 now, hoping either for medication that works or an end, or even some respite, from the HG. Safely in bed now, sick bowl next to me and hoping for a solid nights sleep to see me through to morning Thanks for everyone

mjjoey28 · 09/02/2013 05:41

Hi,

I'm now 28 weeks and this is the first time I've posted. I don't know whether I had/have HG as I was never diagnosed but like others on here, doctors dismissed it as 'normal' morning sickness. They said if I was managing to go to work most days and I wasn't losing weight then I was fine.

Well HG or not, I certainly wasn't fine. This whole dividing line between MS and HG really annoys me as although I technically don't fit the doctor's definition, having lived through it (just) I've yet to meet another mother to be who has had 'morning sickness' this bad. I threw up every day, multiple times for around 4 months, anywhere between one and 14 times a day, and since then gradually less so, but even at 28 weeks I'm still feeling sick - if I don't eat every 2 hours I still vomit and movement - be it sitting on a bus or the baby kicking - still put me at risk of emptying my stomach. Ok - so I've never been admitted to hospital - but for weeks I barely weed because I could stomach less than a cup of water a day, some days I'd throw up ice-lollies, I'd not be able to enter the kitchen, I couldn't walk past shops selling hot food as the smell was horrendous. And yes I went into work most days, but I threw up before breakfast, after breakfast and often on the way to work. I'm not someone who takes time off work for nothing but I felt horrific all day everyday and could eat only a limited diet of potato based products and the occassional apple. I didn't visit friends, family, I gave up all hobbies and I spent any day I wasn't working in bed trying to regain some strength. If I hadn't have had a supportive partner who cooked endless meals of mash, washed up, agreed not to bring onion or garlic into the house for months...I really don't know what I would have done. I could not even hug him to thank him most of the time as his smell/heat/movement caused me to feel worse.

I'm at the stage now where I can cope - nauseas but at a level I can deal with. I don't feel in constant danger of vomiting at any moment as long as I'm careful. I can also eat most things again, which is a relief. But the whole experience has left me dreading the thought of ever having more children. I don't know if I could put myself through that again. I'm left wondering whether the doctor did the right thing in leaving me to suffer, whether I should have complained more, whether not prescribing drugs until you're taken to hospital is the right tactic. I'm left wondering whether there is any other illness that you would suffer this badly with without treatment. Certainly not one I've experienced. I know the policy of 'it's just a bit of morning sickness, eat ginger biscuits' is there to protect the baby - I totally appreciate this. But it seems counterproductive to allow someone to get to the stage of severe dehydration before prescribing something that, lets face it, is probably 99% safe despite lack of accredited clinical evidence. Furthermore, at what point does your mental ability to deal with the sickness really need more than a 'have you tried sea bands?'.

I hope everyone on here currently suffering from MS/HG - whatever the definition - starts to feel better soon and that you get the medical support you need, even if it means asking again and again - something, in restrospect, I should have done.

Reebok · 09/02/2013 08:30

Waves, I'm so sorry your oh is still being awful! It's certainly not what you need now! Makes me so mad when Men behave like this!! Definately seek home medical attention. You don't want to risk getting worse and stop doing everything. As others have said, hopefully you will see a decline in sickness. I'm almost 17 weeks and have!! Only nauseous so far now. Thinking of you waves. X

Lucinda, I contacted room just now so will let you know when I hear back. Glad the others are doing well.

Mjjoey, I know how you feel about bot wanting another. I certainly can't do this again which saddens me as I don't have a child yet which means this one will be an only child.

RoomForALittleOne · 09/02/2013 08:35

Hello All.

Thought I'd just pop by to let you know how I'm getting on. I'm 18 weeks now and still on ondansetron because I throw everything up without. With the ondansetron I can lead a pretty much normal life as long as I pace myself and rest enough. I still feel rubbish a lot of the time but some of that may be to do with very low bp and the after effects of the hyperemesis before it was controlled. No idea when/if I'll come off the ondansetron...

At least the HG has improved to a point that I can safely look after the other DC!

LucindaE · 09/02/2013 09:39

MJJoey Welcome, I am so sorry you have been treated so barbarically If you weren't urinating, then you were dehydrated severely for sure, and it seems like medical negligence that you were allowed to go on like that for weeks, I'm horrified, and the emotional thing when people don't take you seriously takes it's toll. I can't imagine how you managed to battle into work in such a state,you deserve a medal. What puzzles me is, didn't they even test your urine? I wish you had been on here and we could all have supported you as fr as we could. Did you have the kesosticks things to test for dehydration? The GP should have recommended those if refusing treatment. As you say, the anti emetics have been proven safe for decades. Like you, my experience was so frightening I didn't go for it again, but I regret it now.
Waves Hugs about nasty ex OH not visiting. Mother hen is very anxious about you. Belle's advice about the PICC line and the melt in the mouth stuff is great. Keep us informed.
Room and Reebok I am so happy you are still feeling slightly better. Room Your DC has a functioning Mum back, that is so nice!
Belle How are you yourself?
How is Everyone?
Lucinda
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wavesandsmiles · 09/02/2013 09:48

MJJoey For what it's worth, I "battled on" up to 14 weeks, and had I not collapsed in the GP surgery, I am sure I would have been fobbed off too! Well, maybe.

My mum has taken my DCs to their swimming lessons, so they aren't missing out which is good. Am going to attempt to get dressed then phone up the ward and see what they think I should do.

mjjoey28 · 09/02/2013 10:30

LucindaE - bizarrely, at the time, I don't think I was even asked about unrination - in fact I didn't get to physically SEE a doctor - it was a phone conversation which was the only thing they offered me at short notice (no appointments available for 3 weeks?!) which again just adds to the feeling that you're wasting their time to bother them with 'normal' morning sickness. I told her I was off work and she asked why. I told her because I'd thrown up 12 times the previous day and was consequently exhasted. The reply was "but you, don't always vomit that much, you manage to get to work most days". Yes - I was working - just - on the premise that it at least distracted me from feeling so awful and there were people around. I knew the MS wasnt going to get better for weeks/months and so staying at home wasn't going to make it any better and I'd probably end up pretty depressed.There was also somewhere to buy preprepared food. Quite honestly I was pretty scared of being at home alone all day in the state I was in as I couldn't cook for myself and my partner wasn't around between 8 and 6. I didn't really explain this very well at the time perhaps. I just figured that if I wasn't losing weight, like HG sufferers generally do, (probably due to all the chips I was eating!) then I must, as the doctor said, just be suffering from 'normal' morning sickness.

I was recently told by the midwife that I should have made more of a fuss or asked to see another doctor and I would have got medication. I now wish I had - but I guess it isn't in my nature to demand things of doctors - I've always been one of those people who don't take days off for coughs and colds etc - I had previously gone for years without taking a single day off or seeing a doctor. I just assumed that this was common practice for all doctors to avoid medication - then I saw Kate M on the telly and realised there's more to it than that!

Reebok - I always wanted more than one child too. Maybe I'll feel differently when the whole pregnancy is over, but right now the idea of getting pregnant again is not appealing! Adoption?

Has anyone experienced this coming back in 3rd trimester? I'm really hoping not!

LucindaE · 09/02/2013 15:27

Waves have you had any luck with meds? How is the puking now? So glad kids got to go to swimming.
MJJoey I am horrified the GP didn't seem to think all that puking serious, even if it WAS a very bad day. You poor thing! It must have been dreadful. The ironic thing is, you can get the anti nausea drug Cyclazine (proved safe in pregnancy for about three decades) over the counter, but not if you admit to being pregnant...
Lucinda
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wavesandsmiles · 09/02/2013 15:49

Hi, well, I'm in hospital again. No ketone testing yet as I can't do a wee Blush but on a drip again, ondansetron has been injected and I'm snug under a duvet as opposed to just the sheets I had last time.

Have puked some more but reassured to have heard baby's heartbeat again. Seems perfectly happy which is a relief.

BelleEtLaBaby · 09/02/2013 16:12

Oh waves. Thanks for you. Hope they really get you better this time.

Well: I have sat up today, for longer than I have in ages, and I have managed to drink a cup of coffee! I haven't been sick since yesterday. I'm still retching like crazy whenever I get up/move but it is nice to be downstairs on the sofa instead of stuck in bed! :) I don't expect it to last.. But I'm 10 weeks now. Maybe, just maybe, as I've managed it so well this time...?

LucindaE · 09/02/2013 20:26

Waves Oh, you poor thing! Sad.Not again! And so dehydrated they couldn't even test ketones...and still puking. Is your mother looking after the LO's? Gentle cyber pats on offer if of any use. It won't go on this bad, as you know from before. the stresses from OH's bad behaviour obviously don't help (I feel he will return, and should be incredibly guilty). I do hope they get meds sorted out.
Belle That sounds good, comparatively, the weird thing is, I never could face coffee again, but I remain a tea addict. Even if it's temporary, that first 'good' day /sign of improvement is a harbinger of the turn about.
Lucinda
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BelleEtLaBaby · 09/02/2013 21:33

Lucinda: I hope so. I'm very dizzy still and I puked after tea, but I managed to eat loads and I only brought a very little back. But it's nice to have had a few hours of feeling, well... Not totally horrible? :)

Lotta1234 · 10/02/2013 08:34

waves sorry you're in hospital. Glad you're wrapped in a duvet.

Belle that's encouraging. I'm week 8 and going back to the dr on Monday as still feeling rotten.

LucindaE · 10/02/2013 09:14

Lotta Sorry you feel foul, this is the worst time, unfortunately, with those horemones sky rocketing, and a great idea to get the meds changed.
Waves How are you? Did you leave the surgery on a stretcher again (oh no!)
I'm glad you retained some of your dinner.
Belle Isn't week ten the week where the placenta is meant to take over the hormone production, or something, which can help some a bit, I don't know why. I hope the improvement continues.
LittlemissNew joiners I hope not too bad?
Lucinda
xx

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