Due in October -part 3

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The third instalment as we're a talkative bunch!

squidkid don't feel bad, fjordmor and I found each other independently of you. Our resepective Troublesome Elders almost certainly have the same psychiatric condition, which makes them extremely hard to deal with - they have not-quite-fully-working personalities, which makes them act towards us in much less 'normal' ways than normal-grade difficult people or people with more common-or-garden mental illnesses. You'd have a hard time even believing some of the crap my MiL has pulled, it sounds made up. And unlike standard mental illnesses, this one doesn't come and go - its a part of the person, and is therefore pretty permanent.

Personality disorders are pretty crappy, all things considered.

Tried to have a glass of champagne with juice at a party last night... No dice. I managed about an inch of it (in a skinny glass!) in 45 minutes. So much for missing alcohol, eh? Now I can't even drink it...

Just been round to a friends to pick up a cot and some stuff they were getting rid of. Now home and having a bit of a mini panic attack because it all seems a bit more real

Oooh kyyria I can well imagine that would seem a bit daunting. We're not even living in the right place yet (flat to sell, house to buy) so am some way off even thinking about cots etc! But yay for freebees.

I had a good day yesterday - lots of lazing about and felt pretty perky when D got home and not too sick.

Today has been a different story. Did an hour's walk with bile sloshing around my mouth and stomach. Got home in tears. Attempted to cook my own lunch - thought bacon and egg sarnie sounded good (think that the logic was that it works on a hangover so would work on queasy preg tummy?) I waited til the yolk bit in the middle went white and then put in the sarnie. Bit in, was runny. I ate it. Felt guilty. Then looked at the packet (best before 13th).Oh god. Now I feel really bad, destined to get listeria or similar and kill the baby. Oh god. Thought I'd better try to be sick but didn't manage it, so have just lain on the sofa feeling utterly sick and sorry for myself and convinced I've killed the poor mite.

Genius.

Hope everyone's sunday is going a little better! Zoe I chuckled about the non-drinking of champagne. I suspect we're all going to be shockingly cheap dates at the end of this.

Oh and on a more positive note, we got the scan date (20th April) and the booking in date, but can't do the booking in appt cos we're on holiday so will have to phone up tomorrow and ask to change it.

Sorry about the moaning. And if you can send positive thoughts re the eating of out of date runny eggs, that'd be marvellous. ARGHGH. Can't believe I was so stupid.

Afternoon all, feels more like evening though with this wretched tiredness. Been to gym and took dd swimming and now feel ready for bed!

I'm home now. Bath, sofa, cat, cup of tea. Mmm.

CWest welcome to the world of whining about symptoms when you've got them and worrying when you don't! I am actually driving my poor boyfriend crazy. Very irritating about your shopping! I do all mine on foot so I end up going out multiple times a week. It's not very efficient but it means you eat a hell of a lot more fresh stuff and I never chuck anything. I have created this bizarre philosophy that it's not "right" to buy more than you can physically carry. Hah, I'm such an idiot. Have a nice meal this evening!

Angelico The tiredness can be just crippling can't it... I feel a BIT better and have been able to do some exercise this week so I think it does begin to lift with time.

Zoeplankton Hah, and yes, to all your comments about personality disorders. Exhausting. I phoned my mum today and said, "happy mother's day - I haven't got you anything because boyfriend's mum has put me off the very idea of mother's day" - she laughed - my mum is awesome.

Kyyria That's exciting! I'm a bit too nervous to buy anything yeah. No one's offered me handmedowns as yet... I do have one maternity dress a mate gave me. It's a size 8 and HUGE. I am very daunted.

londonlivvy I am obsessed with eggs and it has been so fucking crap overcooking the yolks for the past two months. Sometimes I haven't overcooked them and just ate them anyway. And sell-by dates on food are desperately over-cautious. None of our mothers did any of this stuff. It will be fine - tiny chances of problems with anything, I think, except smoking or heavy drinking.

Talking of drinking - had my first glass of wine last night. It was tasty but odd. I always said I'd have the odd one after 12 weeks. It was only about 50ml in truth, I was a chicken.

what are you doing at the gym midgetm? I did some weights the other day and feel a bit funny about the core stuff. I might continue it just without the pushups and crunches. I'm swimming and hiking a fair amount but haven't really been running more than once or twice - again just felt a bit odd.

livvy please don't panic - the rational part of you knows you will be fine but unfortunately the hormones have swamped it :)

Kyyria can totally understand 'the fear' - it's going to be the most enormous change - but we'll all adjust and manage. And kudos on getting free stuff - all my friends are wrong age / have kids the wrong age - grrrr! :)

Midget sending vast amounts of sympathy. I juust slept for 2.5 hours, felt wide awake for at least 10 mins - and am now getting tired again But the sun is shining and that happens about 5 times a year here so I am going OUT!!! :o

Have fun peeps xo

Hi all!!! Saying hello from the antipodes here.... 3.30am and am wide awake with jetlag. Lying awake listening to the waves on the beach nearby, very relaxing. Lovely to read all your posts!

Really hoping heehee has been getting lots of love and support

MS back, hooray? Blergh. Right now it's more that I'm the unstoppable weeing machine - have been 4 times since midnight and need to go again after I write this post!!

Well you will probably be interested in this London with you having a kiwi DP. It may be the jetlag/delight at seeing DH & PILs/nice NZ weather/I'm completely crackers - yesterday I booked a trip back to NZ (for hols).... for late Nov.... ie with baby....

DMIL is going to come over to Ireland on 22 Oct (ie a few days before I'm due on 26 Oct). Then she + me + bubs (aged btwn 2.5 & 4 weeks, depending on DOB) will go to NZ on 29 Nov. DH will come over on 21 Dec and we will go home to Ireland on 12 Jan. Bloody hell it looks bonkers when I read it written down.

Honestly I can't explain it, when I got here it just felt like the right thing to do (I suggested it!!). Everyone else liked it too without any convincing. Big deal for MIL to come out on her own - she's never flown internationally without FIL and has never been away from him for more than a few nights. He wanted to come too but in her words "heavens no, he'll be no use, he'll just get in the way"

So the only crazy thing is going to be getting passports (Kiwi & UK) sorted for bubs in time. But the lawyer in me feels confident that'll be no problem

Before I booked was freaking out eg what if something goes wrong with baby etc, we will have wasted the best part of €5k. But then I realized I can't live my life worrying like that - after all I could drop dead tomorrow! Feeling much calmer now/in perspective. Eerie calm is a sign of crazy, though, right?

Xposted squid - thanks for sympathy, glad you made it home and are getting some squidkid time :) Your mum sounds great btw, mine is too but I love my MIL and family in law so sending sympathy to all with berzerk relatives. Oh and wine-wise - I had a small glass last night too and thoroughly enjoyed it. Think I have had about 4 glasses in the last 11 weeks which is about my normal consumption. The only thing I'm not doing is having a few glasses when visitors are up x

Aagghh, another xpost Zara. Have a great time down under and don't worry, the calm thing I think is supposed to be hormones :o x

Squid I've found I've had to go slowly. 10 mins interval warm
Up, weights and then abs with the wheel so no crunches. Up until today I have been doing silly amounts of abs but feels weird. As you are so close to end of first tri now you prob have to stay away from anything on your back. I had been doing jack knifes on the TRX but dropped those too. Having a new programme designed by the up duff specialist trainer at my gym tomorrow which will be more reassuring. Still doing 3 Pilates classes which do very deep abs but no jerking. Was told just not to squish abs too much and don't double load.

Even taking it easy has wiped me out! Good luck with your scan squid, seemed like a long wait but it will soon be upon you x

Hey all, Happy Mothers Day!
Excessive tiredness this weekend. Looks like im in for a week of it.... I've just bathed the dog! And I'm absolutely knackered and ready to pass out!!! Bathing the dog might not sound a difficult task but it is when you have a v. hyperactive gordon setter who does NOT like water. And then tries to escape the water as much as she can.... Next time DP will do it!
Hope you all have a lovely day, sympathy to all those with tiredness, sickness and the like. Hopefully it'll all be over soon.
xxx

Happy mothers day to all of you not in canada! Our mothers day isn't until May.

Londonlivvy7 don't worry about the eggs hun! The dates are definately over cautious. I have used eggs 3 months past their date before (and more than once) and never gotten sick off them.

Have eaten eggs runny several times while preggo. In all honestly I think the odds of getting a bad egg are super low. Hear more about listeria in bagged salad and sandwich meat, so steering clear of that (mostly)

I'm also eating lots of peanuts and peanut butter which is also apparently a no no. and no exercise other than my walk to and from work either.

Anyways... On another note, wiuld anyone care to start a gender prediction list? Who will be finding out at their scans, and who is waiting?

Beeblebear - prediction : boy - think we will find out at scan

Thanks midgetm... pretty nervous about my scan in truth, though I have no reason to be, everything's been pretty textbook all told. I've got to go and work an evening shift after it, will be hard to stay professional I think.

I think my problem with the core stuff was, my abs ached a bit the way they do after a good workout, and I don't mind my legs or arms or chest aching, but I get a bit twitchy about my abs aching at the moment! This is very irrational. There is a pregnant yoga class I'm going to join shortly, might prefer that.

You are doing loads! I've very impressed. Been for a few miles walk along the river, that will do me for today :)

Beeblebear I reckon I'll have a boy, dunno why, I just see myself with a boy. If not a boy: a tomboy with a ridiculous giant blackhaired fringe like me :)

We haven't decided if we're going to find out at the scan yet or not. I think, if we do, we'll not tell anyone else.

Beeblebear peanuts are fine I think, that guideline has been dropped

squid only natural to be slightly worried about it but you are you g fit and healthy so stats are on your side. A bit of nerves is natural, healthy and normal. Just like we all hope our scans are too.

BB I was convinced I was having a boy right up until last trimester last time so not going with my hunches this time! If the bean makes it, I probably will find put this time Round for practical reasons (ie what to get rid of of DD's stuff). First time round I didn't though so may chicken out again. Not knowing adds to the magic. I may do the peeing test though just for fun. A healthy baby will do for me. Secretly would love another girl, but one of each would be nice and symmetrical. In other words, and in a long winded fashion, I have no idea!

Hi all,

Happy mothers day - we are mothers, right, even if the baby is not in the outside world yet?

Had a lovely day yesterday visiting 2 lots of friends from Uni and telling them the news - both have 2 kids each so it was a frenzy of baby talk from then on! Has made it feel more real and more exciting, DP and I now feel like we're going to be members of a club! I even pushed a baby in a buggy, have never done that before

Have booked private scan for Thurs 5th April in case NHS one comes through for after Easter - seeing both sets of parents over Easter weekend and want to have good hard evidence that everything's OK before we tell them.

Feeling more energetic but a bit grotty at the same time, but actually I'm relieved the symptoms haven't completely gone - the grottiness is at least reassuring. Abs stuff makes me feel weird squid - I unwisely tried the monkey bars in a playground yesterday () and my stomach didn't like it at all. Going to take abs work off the menu (apart from pilates) and concentrate on weights and cardio from now on - walking uphill on treadmill, walking and jogging outdoors, and swimming. I have been eating like a pig for the last 6 weeks as it stopped me feeling sick, but now I'm starting to feel better, it's fruit and soup and salads and fish and veg and healthy stuff all the way, otherwise people will be guessing before I'm ready to tell them - I have this new and unwelcome roll of fat that bunches up when I sit down, and it's not a bump, it's just over-indulgence. Bad Yomping, it stops now .

Hi to all, hope you're enjoying the weekend and the chance to rest (if you have that chance!).

Thank you everyone for the reassurance re my egg madness. It is much, much appreciated. Still feeling a bit guilty, but trying to use some rational thought!

Felt utterly rough all afternoon and yet now feel awesome, which is useful. Ah well.

Zara you are absolutely AMAZING to have booked all that. Go you! We are tempted to add on his paternity to an Xmas break and go out for 3 or 4 weeks but not brave enough yet to contemplate the journey with bambino. Maybe we should just go for it. Will wait until we get scan results until we make decisions I think but feeling encouraged by your bullishness!

Midget / squid / yomping I've still been doing lots of yoga which has a fair amount of core work in it and feel fine - though can't do it first thing in the morning any more as all the hard belly breathing makes me want to chuck. I think I have to modify the exercises from week 16 but should be ok at the moment so long as I feel ok.

Hope everyone has a good start to the week without too much queasiness or wind!

Zara which airline has agreed to fly a 2.5 week old baby?! You are insane, enjoy :o

I got my scan date through: 10th April. We're planning on going camping over Easter so I won't have time to fret about it all weekend. Finger crossed all is well.

DH and I got the cot yesterday. DS is still in his cot but it's a cot bed so he won't be out of it for another couple of years yet. The plan is for the baby to grow out of this cot at the same time as DS grows out of his junior bed so that they can both go into bunkbeds together. They will of course grow exactly to schedule I love the cot though. It's a Brio Global bedside cot so I can have it right up to the side of our bed and have one side out of the way or have it up for naps when I'm not in bed too. Bliss. DS ended up co-sleeping for nearly a year but our bed just isn't big enough, so we decided we needed a baby extension this time round.

Hello again all, glad we're all in the same nausea/grotty boat! Funny how the oddest things make us feel rough.

heehee I am indeed insane with this trip, already waiting for my Irish mates to go "WHAAAT!!" and my Kiwi mates to go "YAY but WHAAAT!!" AKMD all of the airlines will take a baby - 7 days old is the minimum, unless it's an emergency/you've got a doctors note. LOL one benefit (?!) is that all airlines allocate bassinets by age (as first priority) - so as the Air NZ person said on the phone yesterday "errrr I think your baby will get first priority for bassinets and the best bulkhead seats...!"

livvy I reckon if you feel like it, and are as crazy as me, do it! Admittedly we don't have much family in Ireland which was a big incentive for us (as well as missing a big chunk of winter). Having both had the misfortune of sitting next to many babies on many longhaul flights, DH and I both reckon newborns are the best on planes. They seem (I think?) to like the buzz of the plane and just sleep, eat, poop and occasionally squeak. Famous last words, probably...!

If you are contemplating it:

• try go Air NZ via LAX, on NZ1/NZ2. A bit pricier than Malaysian (current best price I spotted) and Emirates, but I think with baby well worth it. DH insisted on Air NZ going with baby (MIL coming over on Etihad cos cheaper), Air NZ are now the best longhaul carrier in the world & are great with kids. Brand new planes, crew familiar with Kiwi families travelling longhaul, excellent seats and you can orders snacks all flight long from your seat (yes in Economy!). NZ1 & 2 are the airline's flagship routes and have best crew, and a very tight connection in LAX - only 28 hours from London all up.
• if you do book you can't book unborn baby's ticket. Book your own tix first, and call up airline after baby is born - they will create a ticket for baby and merge with your booking. They will also reserve bassinet for you then. Cost of baby's ticket is 10% plus taxes.

I know this all sounds probably like Crazy Cat Lady trying to convince people to buy flea-ridden cats off her.....!!!

Evening all!

Big dose of 'baby brain' today so after writing one PM my ability to make sense is on the wane. Head full of 'next door neighbour is registering things at my address & I am now having to fend off bailiffs - grrrrr - what shall I do?' - but this is not for MN. I'm phoning CAB tomorrow and writing said bailiffs an intimidating legal letter (perk of having worked for my solicitor dad).

3 things to say really other than "Hi :) :)":

1. I am doing NO yoga, and have a belly so big no-one will believe I'm not suddenly clinically obese. I personally think my big fibroid is now rugby ball size. This belly's solid as a rock & like a drum (good bowels and no farts - pardon if TMI). I am so inflexible I can hardly reach something off the floor while sitting in a chair. There. I'm not proud. That's life.

1. We can't eat runny yolks?

1. EPU tomorrow :) - fingers crossed for scan and nuchal fold thing - but I may be hanging round in London for another few weeks now (thanks to being too knackered and back painy to do much on my flat yet) so not the end of the world if I have to wait another week or so. Just want some stuff to be checked. I'm old, unfit and riddled with fibroids. Someone check on me FFS!! Will have to head to my old department at the hospital afterwards for my daily one coffee. Have a feeling my old colleagues are going to guess. Perhaps telling 2 more won't hurt...

Congrats to all doing exercise, pooing and feeling reassured and commiserations to all feeling crap, dealing with crappy relatives and worrying. (Oh and if anyone else writes me a PM, I do know how to get them now )

Weirdly, I'm not nervous about my scan. Hopeful, not worrying. I probably should be but I'm too damn tired and brain-dead to be :) More worried about how one earth I get anywhere for 8.30 (didn't even used to get to work then...)...

Oh and also having the super-smell thing. Mum put this powder in the bin to stop it smelling and I couldn't open the bin without dry heaving.

Fjordmor. 41, unfit, 10+2, having a scan tomorrow, inadvisably zen.

Fjordmor Blimey 8.30, that is a worry. Jealous of the poohing and not farting you describe. I haven't had a pooh to be proud of since I got up duffed.

Hi midgetm :),

I put it down to trying to get my 7-a-day esp fruit, lots of bio yoghurt/cultured yog drinks, porridge and only wholemeal bread. (don't mean to make that sound too virtuous and boring - I do eat lots of cheese and some meat also and sweets if I'm in the mood). Was craving other stuff at first but felt SO much better eating all that that I'm keeping it up. Luckily not really craving anything. FAR too worried about putting on weight and trying to keep my calories to about 2000 per day and no more. I was horribly bunged up before, now I'm borderline the other way half the time (but less headaches and farting so swings & roundabouts). Of course, I keep having the requisite 'ectopic?' worries (I've also had shoulder pain - but not 'tip' and I do sleep on it and one sided niggles - but not often) but figure at 10+ weeks I would probably have been in a lot more pain by now. Still, tomorrow will see. Wish I could fret more - keep thinking that I'm going to have a big shock tomorrow after being this zen.